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Trout 02-17-18 09:53 AM

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I noticed Scanners was listed in the coming soon page. Is there something new about this release, seeing as how it came out about 3-4 years ago.

dex14 02-17-18 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Trout (Post 13271388)
I noticed Scanners was listed in the coming soon page. Is there something new about this release, seeing as how it came out about 3-4 years ago.

Previous release was dual format. Now they’re seperate DVD and Blu editions.

E Unit 02-17-18 10:15 AM

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Why don't they do this from the get go? Maybe too much stock and that's how they unload it? By separating discs?

dex14 02-17-18 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by E Unit (Post 13271402)
Why don't they do this from the get go? Maybe too much stock and that's how they unload it? By separating discs?

Not sure what you mean? That title was released during the dual format era which they are no longer doing anymore. Once those editions are gone, they’ll make seperate editions.

E Unit 02-17-18 10:23 AM

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I mean why not just release them separately to begin with? Why dual editions, then re-release them as DVD and blu ray separately?

dex14 02-17-18 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by E Unit (Post 13271407)
I mean why not just release them separately to begin with? Why dual editions, then re-release them as DVD and blu ray separately?

The dual edition was released 3 years ago when they were experimenting with releasing this way. It was more cost effective for them and they were pushing Blu. People complained and they went back to seperate editions. Dual copies are still in circulation and once they sell out they do seperate editions.

E Unit 02-17-18 10:51 AM

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Ah, got it.

OldBoy 02-17-18 01:10 PM

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have SotL set to go tonight and got NotLD in mail today. g-damn these releases physically look gorgeous. can't wait to watch and dig in...

OldBoy 02-17-18 02:59 PM

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i know Anchor Bay has good release, but would love to see what Criterion could do with '78 Dawn of the Dead...

BuckNaked2k 02-17-18 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dex14 (Post 13271411)
The dual edition was released 3 years ago when they were experimenting with releasing this way. It was more cost effective for them and they were pushing Blu. People complained and they went back to seperate editions. Dual copies are still in circulation and once they sell out they do separate editions.

I keep watching for new Blu-only editions to be released, but it's been slow. I would like to replace some of those oversized digipacks in my collection with regular case editions, but have only seen a few so far....going to be a while before they exhaust stock on some of those titles.

Why So Blu? 02-17-18 03:44 PM

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Watched NOTLD and there's another releases going on my Top-10 of 2018. It was great.

rw2516 02-17-18 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OldBoy (Post 13271517)
i know Anchor Bay has good release, but would love to see what Criterion could do with '78 Dawn of the Dead...

It's been OOP for a few years now. Somebody out there must be working on putting it out.
Hoping somebody puts out decent release of The Osterman Weekend.

I'd be happy if Criterion released some titles they've put out on DVD. The Naked Prey, Fiend Without A Face, and the two Karloff titles Corridors of Blood and The Haunted Strangler.

dex14 02-17-18 05:09 PM

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Nobody is working on it because the person who owns the rights wants an astronomical amount to license it to recoup funds sunk in to the stupid 3D conversion.

slop101 02-17-18 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dex14 (Post 13271566)
Nobody is working on it because the person who owns the rights wants an astronomical amount to license it to recoup funds sunk in to the stupid 3D conversion.

And when the blu of Dawn first came out, I was all "eh, I have the dvd, so I'll just wait 'till the blu is cheap", and before I knew it, it was oop and going for $200.

OldBoy 02-17-18 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dex14 (Post 13271566)
Nobody is working on it because the person who owns the rights wants an astronomical amount to license it to recoup funds sunk in to the stupid 3D conversion.

Dawn of the Dead (1978) has a 3D version?

Josh-da-man 02-17-18 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OldBoy (Post 13271613)
Dawn of the Dead (1978) has a 3D version?

A while back Richard Rubenstein did a 3D conversion of the movie. From what I understand, he sunk a lot of money into it, nobody gave a shit and he couldn't get it released, so now he's asking for a shit-ton of money for the rights to recoup his losses.

dex14 02-17-18 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by OldBoy (Post 13271613)
Dawn of the Dead (1978) has a 3D version?

Yes.

OldBoy 02-17-18 09:09 PM

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Oh wow. Had no idea. I know there was some version of Night in 3D but I think that was a remade version with Sid Haig, I think...

Dawn (78) will always be one of favorites of all time. And #1 horror for me...

Rypro 525 02-17-18 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man (Post 13271630)
A while back Richard Rubenstein did a 3D conversion of the movie. From what I understand, he sunk a lot of money into it, nobody gave a shit and he couldn't get it released, so now he's asking for a shit-ton of money for the rights to recoup his losses.

i take it this was prob when stuff was getting converted, ala The Lion King and Star Wars ep 1 and making $

dex14 02-18-18 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rypro 525 (Post 13271738)
i take it this was prob when stuff was getting converted, ala The Lion King and Star Wars ep 1 and making $

He started in 2007 and only started having screenings within the last 4 years.

clckworang 02-18-18 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 13271600)
And when the blu of Dawn first came out, I was all "eh, I have the dvd, so I'll just wait 'till the blu is cheap", and before I knew it, it was oop and going for $200.

I think a lot of us had that reaction. I remember the early U.S. release often got really cheap, but I wanted to wait for another ultimate edition that contained all the cuts. If that was the first release, there's no way I wouldn't own it.

I wish there was something that could be done to help get the release that Dawn fans deserve out there. We need some epic Kickstarter that would go to whoever was willing to release it. It's just such a shame Dawn is caught up in this kind of shit. I'd even be willing to buy a more expensive release that includes the 3D conversion!

I guess the ultimate hope is that Night sells big and Criterion sees a way that they might be able to break even on it. It would be incredible if Dawn got a release like Brazil.

OldBoy 02-18-18 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by clckworang (Post 13271838)
I think a lot of us had that reaction. I remember the early U.S. release often got really cheap, but I wanted to wait for another ultimate edition that contained all the cuts. If that was the first release, there's no way I wouldn't own it.

I wish there was something that could be done to help get the release that Dawn fans deserve out there. We need some epic Kickstarter that would go to whoever was willing to release it. It's just such a shame Dawn is caught up in this kind of shit. I'd even be willing to buy a more expensive release that includes the 3D conversion!

I guess the ultimate hope is that Night sells big and Criterion sees a way that they might be able to break even on it. It would be incredible if Dawn got a release like Brazil.

i would happily take the 3D version as well, but to have the other cuts that is in the fabulous DVD monster version would be sublime. alas, guess we will never see. wish i could find that set...

Gizmo 02-18-18 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by OldBoy (Post 13271850)
i would happily take the 3D version as well, but to have the other cuts that is in the fabulous DVD monster version would be sublime. alas, guess we will never see. wish i could find that set...

There is a decent 4k release of Dawn. The 4k disc is region free but the other five BDs are locked to B.

joltman 02-19-18 06:25 AM

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To be clear, that 4K version is the Argento 'Zombi' cut, but it does include all of the cuts in HD.

OldBoy 02-25-18 07:59 PM

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G-damn does Silence of the Lambs look so damn good...

dex14 03-01-18 09:52 AM

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Doctorossi 03-01-18 09:58 AM

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Here's my question: How about releasing that new 4K restoration in... 4K?

rbrown498 03-02-18 04:29 PM

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Have at this latest clue:

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hdnmickey 03-02-18 04:48 PM

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Dietrich (Box Set)

DthRdrX 03-02-18 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man (Post 13271630)
A while back Richard Rubenstein did a 3D conversion of the movie. From what I understand, he sunk a lot of money into it, nobody gave a shit and he couldn't get it released, so now he's asking for a shit-ton of money for the rights to recoup his losses.

Shout/Scream Factory has responded to this title request in the past. They pretty much said there was no way to license the title without losing a lot of money. He wants 7 figures for it.

Would probably have to sell 100K copies just to break even on the deal.

Toddarino 03-08-18 10:14 AM

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Sure glad I hung onto my ultimate set of DotD when I got the arrow release. I knew it was oop, but didn't know it was commanding those prices.

dex14 03-15-18 02:21 PM

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New 4K digital restoration by the Film Development Council of the Philippines and Cineteca di Bologna/L’Immagine Ritrovata, in association with The Film Foundation’s World Cinema Project, LVN, Cinema Artists Philippines, and cinematographer Mike De Leon, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack on the Blu-ray
Introduction by filmmaker Martin Scorsese
Signed: Lino Brocka, a 1987 documentary about the director by Christian Blackwood
“Manila” . . . A Filipino Film, a 1975 documentary about the making of the film, featuring Brocka and actors Hilda Koronel and Rafael Roco Jr.
New piece with critic, filmmaker, and festival programmer Tony Rayns
New English subtitle translation
PLUS: An essay by film scholar José B. Capino

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New 2K digital restoration, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack on the Blu-ray
Interview from 2003 with director Víctor Erice
New piece on the making of the film, featuring interviews from 2012 with actors Omero Antonutti, Sonsoles Aranguren, and Icíar Bollaín; cinematographer José Luis Alcaine; and camera operator Alfredo Mayo
Episode of ¡Qué grande es el cine! from 1996, featuring film critics Miguel Marías, Miguel Rubio, and Juan Cobos discussing El Sur
New English subtitle translation
PLUS: An essay by novelist and critic Elvira Lindo, and a new edition of the 1985 novella by Adelaida García Morales on which the film is based

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New high-definition digital restoration, with 2.0 surround DTS-HD Master Audio soundtrack on the Blu-ray
Michael Moore Makes a Movie, a new documentary featuring Moore, chief archivist Carl Deal, supervising producer Tia Lessin, and field producer
Meghan O’Hara
Programs covering Moore’s return to Colorado in 2002, his 2003 Oscar win, and three film-festival Q&As with Moore
Excerpt from a 2002 episode of The Charlie Rose Show featuring Moore
Corporate Cops, a segment from Moore’s 2000 television series The Awful Truth II
Trailer
PLUS: An essay by critic Eric Hynes

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New 4K digital restoration, supervised by director John Waters, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack on the Blu-ray
Audio commentary from 2004 featuring Waters
New conversation between Waters and critic Michael Musto
New and archival interviews with cast and crew members Mink Stole, Pat Moran, Vincent Peranio, Susan Lowe, Mary Vivian Pearce, and more
Interview from 1975 featuring Waters and cast members Stole, Divine, and David Lochary
Deleted scenes and alternate takes
Rare on-set footage
More!
PLUS: An essay by film critic Ed Halter

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New 2K digital restoration, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack on the Blu-ray
Audio commentary from 2005 by Ingmar Bergman scholar Birgitta Steene
New video interviews from 2005 with actors Gunnel Lindblom and Birgitta Pettersson
Introduction by filmmaker Ang Lee from 2005
An audio recording of a 1975 American Film Institute seminar by director Ingmar Bergman
Alternate English-dubbed soundtrack
PLUS: A booklet featuring essays by film scholar Peter Cowie and screenwriter Ulla Isaksson and the medieval ballad on which the film is based

Brian T 03-15-18 03:09 PM

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Good to see MANILA in there! Socially progressive Filipino cinema has long been deserving of recognition and scholarship in the west, but rarely seems to get much traction. The Filipino industry itself can shoulder some of the blame as its seemingly become better known -- if at all -- for its endless glut of cheap, derivative, flaky comedies and romances for the domestic and diaspora markets (although a study of those in relation to the culture would probably be a good read). MANILA was part of an excellent region B two-disc set from BFI with Brocka's INSIANG, and this Criterion edition only has some of the supplements, so perhaps the others might turn up on a Criterion edition of INSIANG down the road, assuming they have that one as well. Guess we'll see.

Coral 03-15-18 03:11 PM

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I'm sure Bowling for Columbine jumped the queue with how big the gun debate has gotten lately.

popegregFKAgoblin23 03-16-18 05:40 AM

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More John Waters. Awesome! This won't need to have as many soundtrack substitutions as Multiple Maniacs.

hdnmickey 03-16-18 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Coral (Post 13291130)
I'm sure Bowling for Columbine jumped the queue with how big the gun debate has gotten lately.

Possible it moved up a little, but it was featured in the new year drawing hinting on what titles were coming in 2018.

Hazel Motes 03-17-18 01:40 AM

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In for Bergman. Bowling For Columbine has the most unwatchable ending in film history. Easy pass, I haven't heard of the others.

LiquidSky 03-23-18 07:18 PM

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I have pre-ordered Midnight Cowboy and Female Trouble

OldBoy 03-23-18 09:33 PM

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I have VS on dvd Criterion. Never watched it. Tempted, but don’t think I can pull trigger for that one...

Goonies85 04-08-18 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by OldBoy (Post 13296671)
I have VS on dvd Criterion. Never watched it. Tempted, but don’t think I can pull trigger for that one...

I think you'd really enjoy it...While I enjoy pretty much all Bergman movies (aside from Cries and Whispers and The Serpent's Egg...I can't stand those movies), this is one of his best...Obviously there's the whole story of its influence on Craven's Last House on the Left, which is also interesting...

The Bergman movie I would most compare it to would be Hour of the Wolf...

Anyway, that's my opinion on that film...


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