Indy trilogy possibly to Blu by year's end
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My view also. Not that it will happen, but I'd prefer individual releases so I could skip buying Temple of Doom.
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Re: Indy trilogy possibly to Blu by year's end
Alright, you guys forced my hand, but I'll put it in spoilers so as to not agitate the Temple-haters/Crusade-lovers... 

Spoiler:
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Was that posted a few years back over at AVS, slop101? Cos I know I've read it before.
I agree with points presented there. And, though an unpopular stance, I love all four to varying degrees. Yes, even Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (I just wish they'd used Ray Winstone's character in an effective manner during the final act).
I agree with points presented there. And, though an unpopular stance, I love all four to varying degrees. Yes, even Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (I just wish they'd used Ray Winstone's character in an effective manner during the final act).
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Alright, you guys forced my hand, but I'll put it in spoilers so as to not agitate the Temple-haters/Crusade-lovers... 
And this doesn't even mention how so many of Indy's defining traits are all picked up in one single afternoon when he was a teen - that's just stupid.
But ultimately, Temple of Doom was a fun roller coaster ride while Crusade was a boring retread.

And this doesn't even mention how so many of Indy's defining traits are all picked up in one single afternoon when he was a teen - that's just stupid.
But ultimately, Temple of Doom was a fun roller coaster ride while Crusade was a boring retread.
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Re: Indy trilogy possibly to Blu by year's end
Crusade is to Raiders as Jedi is to Star Wars. The plots of each sequel are designed to echo the original.
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Yeah that is a really goo dpost slop. I will say I still enjoy ToD quite a bit but have still considered it the "least" of the series...well at least until KotCS. Your points about Sallah and Brody are spot on and almost predict the crap we'd see in later Lucas stuff, but I still love the Ford-Connery moments.
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Just like with the DVD I'll be there for the set as soon as it's released, but Indiana Jones begins and ends with Raiders for me. Both sequels are ass imo, just in different ways.
TOD, despite a nicely dark, 'weird menace pulp' style villain in the Thugee cult, shamelessly panders to the kiddies with almost as much enthusiasm as TMP would. Not only do we get an inappropriate child sidekick (guess Indy got a great deal on a disposable Asian street urchin, since he was never referenced, even obliquely, since- and that's how I like to envision Indy, as a guy who would would put a kid in harms way every chance he can get and never give the person another thought), but we get Indy as the literal savior of a whole village of children *hurl*. On top of that, we get an gratingly annoying love interest. And all this is under the lead footed direction from Spielberg, who never wastes an opportunity to over emphasize any gag or heroic beat. If you read the fascinating story conference transcripts from the first get together with Kasden for Raiders, you can see how Spielberg was never really on the same page in terms of the character as Lucas (and Kasden) were. There is apparently a lot more of Spielberg's (negative) influence on the character in TOD.
TLC is derivative, silly, smears characters that were handled realistically in Raiders for cheap, easy laughs, and has some of the most phony and facile sentimentality of any Spielberg film (and that's saying alot). For an example of what I'm talking about here, check out how the end of the (derivative) tank chase plays out. The father, thinking his son has gone over the cliff, gets all emotional and pours out a heartfelt confession of things he never said to him/wished he's said. But it's all phony. The scene doesn't represent an honest point in the arc of the fathers character- it's all done for a visual gag where Indy creeps up alive behind him, and after the joke is played, the characters resume their previous action figure motivations.
This kind of material is the antithesis of what made Raiders so good at the time.
Unfortunately ROTL is so good, that I won't be able to wait for an individual release so I get stuck buying glorified drink coasters every time. This time won't be an exception- though I'm afraid that with 2+ years having passed, Lucas will feel fully justified making this a 4 film set now.
TOD, despite a nicely dark, 'weird menace pulp' style villain in the Thugee cult, shamelessly panders to the kiddies with almost as much enthusiasm as TMP would. Not only do we get an inappropriate child sidekick (guess Indy got a great deal on a disposable Asian street urchin, since he was never referenced, even obliquely, since- and that's how I like to envision Indy, as a guy who would would put a kid in harms way every chance he can get and never give the person another thought), but we get Indy as the literal savior of a whole village of children *hurl*. On top of that, we get an gratingly annoying love interest. And all this is under the lead footed direction from Spielberg, who never wastes an opportunity to over emphasize any gag or heroic beat. If you read the fascinating story conference transcripts from the first get together with Kasden for Raiders, you can see how Spielberg was never really on the same page in terms of the character as Lucas (and Kasden) were. There is apparently a lot more of Spielberg's (negative) influence on the character in TOD.
TLC is derivative, silly, smears characters that were handled realistically in Raiders for cheap, easy laughs, and has some of the most phony and facile sentimentality of any Spielberg film (and that's saying alot). For an example of what I'm talking about here, check out how the end of the (derivative) tank chase plays out. The father, thinking his son has gone over the cliff, gets all emotional and pours out a heartfelt confession of things he never said to him/wished he's said. But it's all phony. The scene doesn't represent an honest point in the arc of the fathers character- it's all done for a visual gag where Indy creeps up alive behind him, and after the joke is played, the characters resume their previous action figure motivations.
This kind of material is the antithesis of what made Raiders so good at the time.
Unfortunately ROTL is so good, that I won't be able to wait for an individual release so I get stuck buying glorified drink coasters every time. This time won't be an exception- though I'm afraid that with 2+ years having passed, Lucas will feel fully justified making this a 4 film set now.
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Re: Indy trilogy possibly to Blu by year's end
Found this on the blu-ray.com forums:
Frank Marshall, the producer of all 4 films, was on "Geek Time" yesterday. He said the transfers for the blu-rays are done and approved by Spielberg with modifications. All he said was changed was the brightness during the jungle chase at the beginning of the film. Spielberg felt it was too dark. He gave no release date but having the blu-rays done and approved I'm betting spring 2012 which has been speculated elsewhere too.
Frank Marshall, the producer of all 4 films, was on "Geek Time" yesterday. He said the transfers for the blu-rays are done and approved by Spielberg with modifications. All he said was changed was the brightness during the jungle chase at the beginning of the film. Spielberg felt it was too dark. He gave no release date but having the blu-rays done and approved I'm betting spring 2012 which has been speculated elsewhere too.
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That's great news! I was worried since Lucasfilm altered some effects for Raiders when it aired on the HD Network. Glad to see they're not porting them over for the Blu-Ray.
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It was just one effect, of a van going over a cliff. For some reason they stretched out the cliffside, gave it a bit more dimension than the original matte painting.
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They are probably waiting to tie it in with the official announcement of the next Indiana Jones movie
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Temple of Doom is my favorite of the three. Seriously. I saw it a hundred times that summer for $1 at my local theater. Me and my buddy would spend the day scouring the city for "10 cent refund" aluminum cans so we could go see it every night for an entire summer. Great memories. It's still my favorite. At the time Last Crusade came out I was very disappointed in it, but over time as I have seen it more, I have grown to like it a lot. Crystal Skull was complete garbage. All of it. I really hope they redeem themselves with the next one and give Indy a nice send off.
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Some updates from Speilberg himself. Apparently he's just waiting now for Lucas' approval. I personally say fuck that because that means Lucas will somehow insert Shia Lebouf into every film, but I guess we'll know the second half of 2012. This is per digitalbits and De Lauzirika who attended last night's screening.
At last night's L.A. Times/Hero Complex screening of Raiders of the Lost Ark in Los Angeles, director Steven Spielberg confirmed that the Indiana Jones films are "coming soon" to Blu-ray, but only when producer George Lucas is ready. Spielberg would apparently like that to be within 6 months, while Lucas is apparently on more of a 12-month schedule. [Editor's Note: Our industry sources continue to tell us to look for the release in the 2nd half of 2012, as part of Paramount's 100th studio anniversary celebration.] The print that was shown last night was the digital restoration that will be used for the Blu-ray, and it apparently looks terrific. Spielberg reportedly made a point of noting that nothing has been tampered with in the film and there's no added dialogue, which drew some laughs from the crowd for obvious reasons. It's not yet decided if the set will include all four films in the series or just the unreleased trilogy. Star Harrison Ford was also on hand at the event as a guest and said he'd be up for doing a 5th Indy film as long as his character "isn't going to Mars" (which drew more laughs as you can imagine). Talks for a sequel are apparently under way.
At last night's L.A. Times/Hero Complex screening of Raiders of the Lost Ark in Los Angeles, director Steven Spielberg confirmed that the Indiana Jones films are "coming soon" to Blu-ray, but only when producer George Lucas is ready. Spielberg would apparently like that to be within 6 months, while Lucas is apparently on more of a 12-month schedule. [Editor's Note: Our industry sources continue to tell us to look for the release in the 2nd half of 2012, as part of Paramount's 100th studio anniversary celebration.] The print that was shown last night was the digital restoration that will be used for the Blu-ray, and it apparently looks terrific. Spielberg reportedly made a point of noting that nothing has been tampered with in the film and there's no added dialogue, which drew some laughs from the crowd for obvious reasons. It's not yet decided if the set will include all four films in the series or just the unreleased trilogy. Star Harrison Ford was also on hand at the event as a guest and said he'd be up for doing a 5th Indy film as long as his character "isn't going to Mars" (which drew more laughs as you can imagine). Talks for a sequel are apparently under way.
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Re: Indy trilogy possibly to Blu by year's end
So when does Mola Ram start shouting things that weren't in the original and when does Indy shooting the arab swordsman go from a gun to a cannon? Or can Indy use the force to stop the giant boulder? Will Indy finally learn how to spell "Iehovah" so he doesn't almost fall to his death and the film is therefor more family friendly?
I want this to be done right but I just can't get myself excited because George Lucas will certainly find a way to fuck it up.
I want this to be done right but I just can't get myself excited because George Lucas will certainly find a way to fuck it up.
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So when does Mola Ram start shouting things that weren't in the original and when does Indy shooting the arab swordsman go from a gun to a cannon? Or can Indy use the force to stop the giant boulder? Will Indy finally learn how to spell "Iehovah" so he doesn't almost fall to his death and the film is therefor more family friendly?
I want this to be done right but I just can't get myself excited because George Lucas will certainly find a way to fuck it up.
I want this to be done right but I just can't get myself excited because George Lucas will certainly find a way to fuck it up.
Spielberg reportedly made a point of noting that nothing has been tampered with in the film and there's no added dialogue, which drew some laughs from the crowd for obvious reasons.
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He won't insert Shia Lebouf into the first three movies, but you can expect to see some Dugs waddling around random shots, and several protracted "NOOOOOOOOOO"s clumsily dubbed in.



