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Supermallet 07-03-09 02:36 PM

re: The Exorcist: TVYNS - 2010
 

Originally Posted by hasslein (Post 9543130)
That's strange, Friedkin said he only put together the version never seen because Blatty wanted it, and he prefers org cut.

I believe in the commentary for the new version, one of the few times he doesn't just describe exactly what is happening on screen, he says he now prefers the new cut.

tylergfoster 07-03-09 02:46 PM

re: The Exorcist: TVYNS - 2010
 
It would be doubly good if it was all a trick, and the disc includes The Version You've Never Seen with tweaked color timing and the original edit with the original timing.

Matthew Chmiel 07-03-09 02:48 PM

re: The Exorcist: TVYNS - 2010
 

Originally Posted by Drexl (Post 9543219)
I have a feeling they'll release the original cut after they get enough complaints, although we might be stuck with the "Friedkincolor." After all, they did decide to release the unrated cut of Natural Born Killers.

I'm assuming Warner released the director's cut of Natural Born Killers as:

A) Lionsgate's rights on the title expired and they reversed back to Warner.

B) Warner dropped their no-Unrated releases policy.

This would've been a great time for Warner to put together a nice two-disc BD set with both edits, but since they're only choosing the inferior TVYNS, I'll be choosing to spend my money on another title that week.

gorgo99 07-03-09 06:05 PM

re: The Exorcist: TVYNS - 2010
 
It's my favorite horror movie of all time, but no original version = no sale.

hasslein 07-03-09 09:13 PM

re: The Exorcist: TVYNS - 2010
 

Originally Posted by Suprmallet (Post 9543272)
I believe in the commentary for the new version, one of the few times he doesn't just describe exactly what is happening on screen, he says he now prefers the new cut.

I didn't know he did a 180. He made the statement I was referring to at a screening of To Live & Die in LA when he was putting together TVYNS. I usually enjoy his commentaries, can't believe I forgot to listen to that one. I've not been able to bring myself to watch The Exorcist since the 90's when they replaced the blood red Warner logo at the beginning with the bright shiney happy warner logo. I mentioned this to a WHV rep (back in the laserdisc days), he agreed with me and said he would make sure they got it right next time, then they used the black & white logo... urgh...

Drexl 07-03-09 10:21 PM

re: The Exorcist: TVYNS - 2010
 
He'll have an introduction boasting that it's the best print ever of The Exorcist!

I rented that bonus disc from The French Connection, and it's sad to see how great it looked before he messed with it.

asianxcore 07-04-09 03:22 AM

re: The Exorcist: TVYNS - 2010
 
This news makes me sad :(

Josh Z 07-04-09 09:24 AM

re: The Exorcist: TVYNS - 2010
 

Originally Posted by hasslein (Post 9543791)
I didn't know he did a 180. He made the statement I was referring to at a screening of To Live & Die in LA when he was putting together TVYNS.

As part of his ongoing mental breakdown, he's done a complete about-face on the issue. You can hear him voice this change of opinion in the following podcast:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Back-By...-His-Own-Words

Oliver Clothesoff 07-04-09 10:05 AM

re: The Exorcist: TVYNS - 2010
 
I will get TVYNS if it's released with no changes to color timing; I actually enjoy that cut of the movie.

I also still have my 30th anniversary DVD of the theatrical cut, so I'll just hold onto that.

WMAangel 07-04-09 05:30 PM

re: The Exorcist: TVYNS - 2010
 
I agree with the general sentiment here....

No original cut = no sale
"Friedkincolor" (great term Drexl!) = no sale

Warner needs to release a BD with both the original cut and un-tampered color timing before they get my dollars.....
As I have already done with The French Connection (for color timing issues) and Commando/Fantastic 4/Saw (for cut of the film), I will just hold onto my DVD instead....

Paul Arnette 07-05-09 04:39 PM

re: The Exorcist: TVYNS - 2010
 

Originally Posted by Josh Z (Post 9542946)
William Friedkin is an asshole.

:lol: /thread

NoirFan 08-24-09 04:45 PM

re: The Exorcist: TVYNS - 2010
 
From Blu-ray.com -

Home Media Magazine publisher and editorial director, T.K. Arnold, has revealed in his blog that William Friedkin's 'The Exorcist' will be released on Blu-ray "in time for Halloween 2010". This edition will feature a new restoration, including both the 1973 theatrical version and the "version you've never seen" from 2000.
Now I'm definitely in. :thumbsup:

EDIT: I just noticed it says Halloween 2010. That's a bummer.

Drexl 08-24-09 06:20 PM

Re: The Exorcist: TVYNS - 2010
 
Good news, but we're not out of the woods yet. I think you could argue that avoiding the process that TFC went through is just as important as, if not more important than, including the original cut.

I mean, look at how many people complained about Do the Right Thing, and what they did with that just made the movie look natural instead of "hot." DTRT didn't end up looking like a Ted Turner colorized movie, but with worse color bleeding.

applesandrice 08-24-09 06:23 PM

Re: The Exorcist: TVYNS - 2010
 

Originally Posted by NoirFan (Post 9665952)
From Blu-ray.com -

Now I'm definitely in. :thumbsup:

EDIT: I just noticed it says Halloween 2010. That's a bummer.

Ahh . . . now the question is, which version does the "restoration" apply to? Will Friedkin have gotten his filthy hands all over both cuts?

jrsl76 08-24-09 10:33 PM

Re: The Exorcist: TVYNS - 2010
 
The Exorcist: The Version I Don't Give A Shit About

Hopefully, the theatrical will be cleaned up and not fucked with AT ALL.

tylergfoster 08-25-09 12:47 AM

Re: The Exorcist: TVYNS - 2010
 
Yeah, I hope Warner is maybe sort of quietly sneaking this one past Friedkin. They tell him he can do whatever he wants to The Version You've Never Seen and then slip a restored but otherwise unaltered theatrical version into the set as well.

MTRodaba2468 08-25-09 01:06 AM

Re: The Exorcist: TVYNS - 2010
 
I'm glad that both versions are being included, I just hope they keep the color timing correct...

E Unit 03-08-10 09:54 AM

re: The Exorcist
 
Bump to add the news snippet over at blu-ray.com - sounds like Friedkin is exerting full control - but didn't he have the same with French Connection? Look at how that turned out. And I guess it's nice to know we won't see a 3D re-release....I mean seriously....


Friedkin Flaunts Control over Exorcist Blu-ray, Says No to 3D

Warner Bros. In a recent interview, William Friedkin was asked about the possibility that Warner Brothers decided to convert The Exorcist to 3D. Friedkin said that would never happen, "providing I'm still alive." He stated that he has control "over every single frame of film" when converting it to Blu-ray. "If I want a scene bluer, I get that scene bluer," he added.

Friedkin confirmed that the Blu-ray of The Exorcist is coming out this fall. A rerelease in IMAX theaters is also being considered, although "nothing is certain yet."

Oliver Clothesoff 03-08-10 10:08 AM

re: The Exorcist
 
Yikes. I'm holding onto my 25th Anniversary DVD no matter what, if only for the amazing documentary, but this is making me very nervous (and I'm one who doesn't mind the changes to The Version You've Never Seen).

Gizmo 03-08-10 10:21 AM

re: The Exorcist
 
Oh fuck.

Supermallet 03-08-10 11:38 AM

re: The Exorcist
 
Sigh. Friedkin has no clue what he's doing anymore.

Darth Maher 03-08-10 12:14 PM

re: The Exorcist
 

Originally Posted by Oliver Clothesoff (Post 10038062)
Yikes. I'm holding onto my 25th Anniversary DVD no matter what, if only for the amazing documentary, but this is making me very nervous (and I'm one who doesn't mind the changes to The Version You've Never Seen).

I don't mind the changes in TVYNS, just as I don't mind some of the changes to the Star Wars trilogy. I just think the original, unaltered versions should be available as well with the same quality as the altered versions.

The Monkees 03-08-10 01:04 PM

re: The Exorcist
 
What's making people nervous about what he said? He didn't say anything about changing it again. Just because he said something about if he wants a scene bluer he gets it?

I'm glad to hear no 3D, what purpose would that serve? Also a re-release to IMAX screens might be cool to go see, I haven't seen it in theaters since The Version You've Never Seen back in 2000.

tylergfoster 03-08-10 02:09 PM

re: The Exorcist
 

Originally Posted by The Monkees (Post 10038400)
What's making people nervous about what he said? He didn't say anything about changing it again. Just because he said something about if he wants a scene bluer he gets it?

There was a magazine article about a year ago where he actually stated that he was doing the same thing to The Exorcist that he did to The French Connection.

PhantomStranger 03-08-10 07:29 PM

re: The Exorcist
 

Originally Posted by The Monkees (Post 10038400)
What's making people nervous about what he said? He didn't say anything about changing it again. Just because he said something about if he wants a scene bluer he gets it?

Because many people believe he ruined the new transfer made for The French Connection, which resulted in an awful-looking Blu-ray.

Surfinhank 03-08-10 10:42 PM

re: The Exorcist
 
:fart:

The Monkees 03-09-10 01:46 PM

re: The Exorcist
 

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 10039111)
Because many people believe he ruined the new transfer made for The French Connection, which resulted in an awful-looking Blu-ray.

Oh, I didn't know anything about The French Connection.

Josh Z 03-09-10 02:43 PM

re: The Exorcist
 

Originally Posted by The Monkees (Post 10040544)
Oh, I didn't know anything about The French Connection.

Yes, he literally tinted the entire movie purple for no reason whatsoever. It looks terrible.

Doctorossi 03-09-10 02:54 PM

re: The Exorcist
 

Originally Posted by Josh Z (Post 10040676)
Yes, he literally tinted the entire movie purple for no reason whatsoever.

Let's be fair to the man. Not only did he have a reason, but he provided it to the public, which he was under no obligation to do.

E Unit 03-09-10 02:57 PM

re: The Exorcist
 
But wasn't his claim to do the tinting was because it would make it more like his vision? Wasn't the ability to tint like that already available when he made it?

tylergfoster 03-09-10 03:01 PM

re: The Exorcist
 
Actually, what he did was take the restored version, created a black and white, high-contrast version, and then bled the colors into it, and tweaked tint as well. The movie looks kind of sicky, and colors bleed wildly, but for me, the benefits of the original restoration were still noticeable, even if he ruined it.

Josh Z 03-09-10 03:02 PM

re: The Exorcist
 

Originally Posted by Doctorossi (Post 10040715)
Let's be fair to the man. Not only did he have a reason, but he provided it to the public, which he was under no obligation to do.

Allow me to clarify. I should have said no rational reason whatsoever.


Originally Posted by trespoochies (Post 10040725)
But wasn't his claim to do the tinting was because it would make it more like his vision? Wasn't the ability to tint like that already available when he made it?

Yes, he claims that it was always his intention to give the movie "pastel" colors. Which the movie's cinematographer has called total bullshit. If Friedkin always wanted the movie to look purple, he never said anything about it at the time to the person who would have been responsible for actually doing it.

Doctorossi 03-09-10 03:04 PM

re: The Exorcist
 

Originally Posted by Josh Z (Post 10040742)
I should have said no rational reason whatsoever.

Thank you. :D

DonTHX1378 03-09-10 04:04 PM

re: The Exorcist
 
I can't remember if I heard it on the commentary or read it someplace but didn't Friedkin state that The Version You've Never Seen is his preferred version? I know for years until the box set came out it was hard to find the original version with the Fear of God doc. I hope that the blu ray has both versions and Friedkin doesn't just release the second version.

Solid Snake 03-09-10 08:47 PM

re: The Exorcist
 
Wait...are you serious he tinted The French Connection purplish? *looks at DVDbeaver review* Well I be damned. I never noticed that. I just...thought it was kind of...bleedish in colors. Fuck, man. WTF is wrong w/ Friedkin?

Josh Z 03-10-10 06:44 AM

re: The Exorcist
 

Originally Posted by DonTHX1378 (Post 10040894)
I can't remember if I heard it on the commentary or read it someplace but didn't Friedkin state that The Version You've Never Seen is his preferred version? I know for years until the box set came out it was hard to find the original version with the Fear of God doc.

Yes, in this podcast interview, he says that he has "come around" and now prefers 'The Version You Haven't Seen, Unless You Have Seen This Version, Which Makes It The Other Version You've Seen'.

Jaymole 03-10-10 07:34 AM

re: The Exorcist
 
This is the guy who wanted Sorcerer full screen rather than it's OAR when it was released on Laser Disc (he said most people prefer their TV screens filled up), so he has a long history of bone-headed moves.

Josh-da-man 03-10-10 11:11 AM

re: The Exorcist
 

Originally Posted by Josh Z (Post 10040676)
Yes, he literally tinted the entire movie purple for no reason whatsoever. It looks terrible.

He didn't make any changes to the French Connection. The blu-ray is an accurate representation of the answer print. All previous releases have been drastically modified due to the limitations of home video.

Unless you've seen the answer print, you can't criticize the French Connection.

Josh Z 03-10-10 01:19 PM

re: The Exorcist
 

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man (Post 10042364)
He didn't make any changes to the French Connection. The blu-ray is an accurate representation of the answer print. All previous releases have been drastically modified due to the limitations of home video.

Unless you've seen the answer print, you can't criticize the French Connection.

Ouch. I hope RAH doesn't visit here. He's been known to pop into other forums from time to time. :)

Mao 06-17-10 10:30 PM

Re: The Exorcist: TVYNS - 2010
 
Finally an announcement:

The Exorcist: Extended Director's Cut + Theatrical Cut

Street Date:10/5/10

The Phenomenal Box Office Performer Arrives On Blu-Ray(TM)! Just In Time For Halloween

Controversial and successful from the moment it hit theatres, The Exorcist endures as a defining horror
classic that influenced movies afterward and still shocks and haunts decades later. Director William Friedkin
and producer/ screenwriter William Peter Blatty have integrated over 10 minutes of scenes and images
deleted before the film’s 1973 release. Now seen are moments deepening the impact of the performances by
Linda Blair, Ellen Burstyn, Jason Miller, Max von Sydow and Lee J. Cobb: a “nervous disorder” diagnosis,
more of Father Merrin’s arrival before the ritual, an epilogue with Lt. Kinderman and Father Dyer and most
notably, Regan’s shattering staircase descent. The Exorcist astonishes and unsettles like no other movie.

Exorcist, The: Extended Director's Cut + Theatrical
Cut (BD)
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