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Old 09-08-08 | 06:28 PM
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Have any Blu Rays finally replaced controversial DVDs with problematic video/audio?

Have there been any Blu Rays which have finally fixed the very problematic DVD versions of DVD re-releases, awful DVD restorations, or letterboxed DVDs that never got anamorphic treatment?

For example:

Army of Darkness: endless dvd versions of different video quality dvds, as well as different versions of the film with better-or-worse video quality.

The Abyss: endless letterboxed dvd re-releases

The Killer (John Woo): extremely problematic audio with every single DVD re-release

Mad Max 2 The Road Warrior: is the Blu Ray better than the French/Australia DVD versions?

Boys From Brazil: I'm assuming that the Blu Ray kicks ass because there is no anamorphic DVD version of this film?

The Shining: are people happier with the widescreen Blu Ray instead of the Full Screen DVD?


Can anyone think of any other Blu Rays that finally have corrected seriously problematic DVDs over the years?
Old 09-08-08 | 06:38 PM
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Mad Max 2 definitely fits in here as having replaced any dvd out. Vastly superior to the pal dvds.
Old 09-08-08 | 07:27 PM
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The Blu-ray and HD DVDs of THE ROAD WARRIOR and THE SHINING surely look better than any DVD release of these films (I haven't seen the French or Australian DVDs of the former, but there's is no way they could look better than the hi def releases, which also absolutely bury the original so-so R1 DVD release of the film)

From what I've heard, the HD DVD of ARMY OF DARKNESS still suffers the same problem as the domestic DVDs of the film regarding varying film quality (which is why I'm not buying it). It would be nice if a hi def version was released that made use of the same source as the R3 MGM DVD, but who knows if this will happen. Fingers crossed.
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Originally Posted by toddly6666
Have there been any Blu Rays which have finally fixed the very problematic DVD versions of DVD re-releases, awful DVD restorations, or letterboxed DVDs that never got anamorphic treatment?
Why do you care? You've made it clear in your thread in the DVD Talk forum that you don't like Blu-ray. It seems to me at this point that you're trolling.
Old 09-08-08 | 09:30 PM
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Mr. Salty, no you are mistaken. I'm very interested in Blu Ray and Blu Ray released in other countries. I just don't want to buy it. It's like you telling me that I can't comment on Republicans if I want to talk about politics...I never even said anything negative about Blu Ray. I just prefer the look of DVD over Blu Ray, but as i've learned from other posts, my taste may change if I see just one good Blu Ray set-up nicely in a home theater store....
Old 09-08-08 | 09:51 PM
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Well Nightmare Before Christmas, that just came out to blu-ray and was never released in an anamorphic DVD, at least not in the States. And its picture quality is excellent.
Old 09-08-08 | 10:04 PM
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'Die Hard With a Vengeance' had a sad history on home video, from the LD to both DVD releases. Massive edge-enhancement and DNR filtering. The Blu Ray release FINALLY gave us a great looking home version...after twelve years.
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Originally Posted by toddly6666
I never even said anything negative about Blu Ray.
A sampling:

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The Blu Ray video quality of new movies are just too bright, too crisp.

Blu Ray is also headache-inducing.

CGI seems to be even more fake/obvious on Blu Ray over DVD.
Old 09-08-08 | 10:07 PM
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There aren't many, because the studios will usually release new DVD counterparts at the same time due to the vast market for them. That's not likely to change any time soon. The Kubrick titles and The Nightmare Before Christmas all got new DVDs at the same time.

It does add a bit of extra consideration though, as it makes the BD editions more compelling upgrades since you can skip the new DVD and just get the BD.
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Leon the Professional. Audio problems and some good character development cut from the movie. Not to mention the multitude of releases it's had.
Old 09-08-08 | 10:31 PM
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Leon the Professional. Audio problems and some good character development cut from the movie. Not to mention the multitude of releases it's had.
Um, I don't think this is available on BD yet. I'll snap it up when it is though.
Old 09-08-08 | 11:11 PM
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1. Black Narcissus

2. Eyes Wide Shut

3. How The West Was Won

4. Bram Stoker's Dracula

5. Boys from Brazil

etc.

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Old 09-09-08 | 12:09 AM
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Mr. Salty,
1. the headache-inducing was explained to me due to the "flame on" brightness set up poorly in electronic stores...
Old 09-09-08 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by toddly6666
1. the headache-inducing was explained to me due to the "flame on" brightness set up poorly in electronic stores...
Saying you were incorrect about some of your negative statements is different than claiming that you "never even said anything negative about Blu Ray."

Do you still think that BD video is "too bright, too crisp," and makes CGI look more fake?
Old 09-09-08 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by toddly6666
Mr. Salty, no you are mistaken. I'm very interested in Blu Ray and Blu Ray released in other countries. I just don't want to buy it. It's like you telling me that I can't comment on Republicans if I want to talk about politics...I never even said anything negative about Blu Ray. I just prefer the look of DVD over Blu Ray, but as i've learned from other posts, my taste may change if I see just one good Blu Ray set-up nicely in a home theater store....
You prefer low quality over high quality? Wow. You definitely don't need to be in this forum if that's the case.
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Man whats with the firing squad? Who cares? This topic is a fair question and should yield a few interesting answer.

If somebody sees Blu setup on a misconfigured TV odds are they will take something negative away from it. Our Best Buy, for a long time, had an HD DVD player hookd up with Million Dollar Baby, it looked absolutely terrible -- washed out color, grainy, and while sharp -- every thing else was way off. Aside from that non-point, you don't need to slam somebody over a legit thread.

As others have mentioned, the constant re-releasing of DVDs sort of makes "Definitive version is on Blu-ray only" a bit moot, though there are certainly many examples. IMO, the original release of Dark City had some issues that the new Blu fixes despite some DNR. While the Directors Cut is now on DVD as well, the original is only available on that original release.

And while not the same per se, Salo was incredibly rare on DVD in the US, but the newly released Region Free edition on Blu fixes that up.

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Old 09-09-08 | 08:50 AM
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Man whats with the firing squad? Who cares? This topic is a fair question and should yield a few interesting answer.

If somebody sees Blu setup on a misconfigured TV odds are they will take something negative away from it. Our Best Buy, for a long time, had an HD DVD player hookd up with Million Dollar Baby, it looked absolutely terrible -- washed out color, grainy, and while sharp -- every thing else was way off. Aside from that non-point, you don't need to slam somebody over a legit thread.
SOP for this forum. Part of the reason why I rarely venture in here and most of the reason why I continue to wait out the nonsense.
Old 09-09-08 | 09:22 AM
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^I think you have DVDtalk confused with AVS
Old 09-09-08 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist
1. Black Narcissus

2. Eyes Wide Shut

3. How The West Was Won

4. Bram Stoker's Dracula

5. Boys from Brazil

etc.

Pro-B

etc. ?

round it up to 15 there Pro-B, I want to know more...
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Its true that the bad CGI looks worse because you can see it better. What the hell is wrong stating that. And yeah, even good CGI looks faker because of the clarity. Lame flame.

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Originally Posted by chanster
Its true that the bad CGI looks worse because you can see it better. What the hell is wrong stating that. Lame flame.
I saw some bluray pics from 'The Forbidden Kingdom' and the makeup on Michael Angarro's face is very apparent and annoying - it was also apparent on the DLP theatrical presentation of the film.
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I saw some bluray pics from 'The Forbidden Kingdom' and the makeup on Michael Angarro's face is very apparent and annoying - it was also apparent on the DLP theatrical presentation of the film.
And it was likely apparent on the properly projected 35mm presentation as well. The fault for that kind of thing lies on the filmmakers and not the specific presentation format.
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Did this guy claim that Blu Ray caused bad CGI or makeup? No. He said its more fake/obvious. Which is true.
Old 09-09-08 | 10:34 AM
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And it was likely apparent on the properly projected 35mm presentation as well. The fault for that kind of thing lies on the filmmakers and not the specific presentation format.
but with the advent of hidef, things like bad makeup become all the more apparent. A friend of mine was recently interviewed for a local news channel (in studio) and because they shot in hidef, they didn't put makeup on, because it become very noticeable with the greater clarity and sharpness.
Old 09-09-08 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Spooon69
Leon the Professional. Audio problems and some good character development cut from the movie. Not to mention the multitude of releases it's had.
The international cut has been available here for some time.

Also, the first domestic release had the audio problem and was fixed. The later "Deluxe" edition did not have the problem.

Still this is one of my most anticipated Blu-Ray's. I just hope Sony can find time between releasing National Security and Blue Streak to release it.


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