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Yeah I'm passing on 400 blows, will wait for the box set
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bless you Criterion for giving Bottle Rocket the treatment it so deserves
haven't even watched the main feature yet but the extras are wonderful ...James Caan in the making of doc is a riot the menus are so perfectly laid out and accessable the packaging is beautiful with a great looking insert I can't wait to fully read through I hope people eat this up so we can get some more WA sooner rather than later |
If you can tell me how the PQ is on Bottle Rocket it would be greatly appreciated. I love this movie but haven't decided if I'm upgrading or not.
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Originally Posted by mdc3000
(Post 9137653)
If you can tell me how the PQ is on Bottle Rocket it would be greatly appreciated. I love this movie but haven't decided if I'm upgrading or not.
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/35732...on-collection/ Bottle Rocket looks great in this 1080p AVC encoded 1.85.1 anamorphic widescreen transfer and where you'll immediately notice the difference between this HD transfer and the SD counterpart that Criterion released is in the detail levels and the color depth. The reds look perfect, with no bleeding, while the black levels stay strong and deep. There's a little bit of grain here and there but that's not at all a bad thing while print damage is pretty much non-existent. Skin tones look lifelike and natural while detail in the foreground and the background of the picture remains impressive throughout the film. There aren't any obvious problems with mpeg compression artifacts or edge enhancement nor is there any heavy shimmering. All in all, the picture quality is great. As one would expect from the folks at Criterion, Bottle Rocket arrives on Blu-ray looking better than ever. Framed precisely in the film’s original theatrical aspect ratio of 1.85:1 and encoded with AVC Mpeg-4, Bottle Rocket exhibits all the qualities of projected film. Grain is present and delivered in levels appropriate for a twelve year old low-budget film. It’s never distracting and adds to the movie’s remarkable cinematography from Robert Yeoman. The film also displays rich, vibrant colors and many instances of stark primary hues used to highlight the moods of the characters. It’s a stunning presentation that could only be possible with Blu-ray’s exceptional visual fidelity. Distracting artifacts are also never an issue with Bottle Rocket. I didn’t detect a hint of edge enhancement, haloes, ringing or any of the normal culprits that detract from the viewing experience. Black levels are robust and the film displays an exceptional level of contrast throughout. Image detail is also outstanding with well-defined skin and fabric elements. The image also displays a great sense of dimensionality and depth of focus. It’s worth noting, that as with every Criterion Collection release, the film’s creators were involved in the transfer process. Both Cinematographer Robert Yeoman and Director Wes Anderson supervised the newly minted Blu-ray transfer. Therefore, it’s doubtful that Bottle Rocket will ever look better. ADDITION: Criterion Blu-ray - December 08': Utilizing the same high definition master as the standard DVD from a couple of weeks back, we have essentially the same color palette with better resolution. Technically over 4 times the bitrate. This is a dual-layered Blu-ray with the feature taking up approximately 26Gig of space transferred with the AVC encode. Detail shows a demonstrative improvement. Colors, especially reds, seem far more true. It looks quite impressive. Bottle Rocket is presented in its original aspect ratio of 1.85.1. Black bars at the top and bottom of the screen are normal for this format. Supervised and approved by director Wes Anderson and director of photography Robert Yeoman, this new high-definition digital transfer was scanned on a Spirit 2K Datacine from a 35mm interpositive. Thousands of instances of dirt, debris, and scratches were removed using the MTI Digital Restoration System and Pixel Farm's PFClean. |
mdc,
after watching the movie tonight I concur 100% with the reviews above this looks light years better than the dvd I wouldn't hesitate the upgrade especially if you love this film |
Originally Posted by musick
(Post 9137641)
I hope people eat this up so we can get some more WA sooner rather than later Hmmm might be a nice extra on a future Blu release . . . :) <object width="480" height="295"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/SxE0t32xbUo&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/SxE0t32xbUo&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="295"></embed></object> |
What an odd little ad. Was he actually meant to be M. Hulot or just a M. Hulot type?
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Chunkging Express looks awesome, and The Man Who Fell to Earth just arrived! However, for Chungking, it would have been cool if they included the HK trailer, and possibly QT's bookend remarks (as extras, not actual bookends). Plus, my friend who speaks Mandarin/Cantonese pointed out a subtle joke that was lost in the translation of the Rolling Thunder version, and I was looking out to see if it was shown in this translation. I was using that as a litmus to see if a whole lot changed with the subtitles, and it wasn't there, so I guess it's mostly the same.
Third Man should be coming soon. Oh yeah, and I ordered Bottle Rocket w/T Shirt a couple days ago, and DD said that it was no longer available and I would not be charged. No big deal, I'd order it later, right? Wrong. DD ended up shipping it anyway, without the T-shirt. Didn't really ask for that, but whatever. |
Is Criterion that ashamed to release Armageddon on Blu Ray? They know it would be their biggest-selling Criterion Blu Ray, but maybe they are embarrassed for doing that title...
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Originally Posted by toddly6666
(Post 9139769)
Is Criterion that ashamed to release Armageddon on Blu Ray? They know it would be their biggest-selling Criterion Blu Ray, but maybe they are embarrassed for doing that title...
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Watched Third Man and Chungking Express, both were tremendous, great job Criterion!
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Originally Posted by Josh Z
(Post 9139781)
They undoubtedly do not have the rights to release that one Blu-ray. Buena Vista keeps its big titles to itself these days.
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Originally Posted by bluetoast
(Post 9139746)
Chunkging Express looks awesome, and The Man Who Fell to Earth just arrived! However, for Chungking, it would have been cool if they included the HK trailer, and possibly QT's bookend remarks (as extras, not actual bookends). Plus, my friend who speaks Mandarin/Cantonese pointed out a subtle joke that was lost in the translation of the Rolling Thunder version, and I was looking out to see if it was shown in this translation. I was using that as a litmus to see if a whole lot changed with the subtitles, and it wasn't there, so I guess it's mostly the same.
Third Man should be coming soon. Oh yeah, and I ordered Bottle Rocket w/T Shirt a couple days ago, and DD said that it was no longer available and I would not be charged. No big deal, I'd order it later, right? Wrong. DD ended up shipping it anyway, without the T-shirt. Didn't really ask for that, but whatever. |
Well forget about finding these in stores. Ordering from Amazon now.
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I saw all the Criterions at Fry's today.
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
(Post 9140130)
I saw all the Criterions at Fry's today.
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Originally Posted by DangerousG
(Post 9140018)
What was the joke?
So when the scene occurs when he eats the switched can, he says in the subtitles something like "Even the swordfish tastes different." My friend said that the actual line was like "The fish even has a bean taste to it." Subtle, and not that big a deal, but it's a different line. Then again, I didn't notice that it was a bean related can in the first place last night, so maybe my friend noticed that it was written on the can. In that case, it would have required a separate subtitle for the can in order to get the payoff. Oh yeah, and as I was writing my previous post, The Third Man came in. Saw it, great movie! One thing though: Did anybody else experience the Bogdanovich introduction to be strangely framed? As in, I understand that it's a 480i/p presentation of his introduction, but on top of that, the sides of the 4:3 frame were also blocked off. |
"The 400 Blows" MSRP is only $30, their cheapest BR yet. I hope this is the beginning of a Criterion Blu trend.
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Originally Posted by NiCK Crush
(Post 9140412)
Wish I had a Fry's :(.
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so wait... there are no February bluray releases ??
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Originally Posted by Giles
(Post 9141220)
so wait... there are no February bluray releases ??
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Originally Posted by milkdog
(Post 9141185)
"The 400 Blows" MSRP is only $30, their cheapest BR yet. I hope this is the beginning of a Criterion Blu trend.
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Originally Posted by Giles
(Post 9141220)
so wait... there are no February bluray releases ??
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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
(Post 9142590)
Don't worry, El Norte will probably be delayed.
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DVDBeaver has comparisons of "The Last Emperor" up.
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Shit, the Blu-ray doesn't come with the TV version of the film? I can understand the liner notes being cut from 90 to 16 pages, but I absolutely effing hate losing content like this...
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Originally Posted by Tarantinoholic
(Post 9143620)
Shit, the Blu-ray doesn't come with the TV version of the film? I can understand the liner notes being cut from 90 to 16 pages, but I absolutely effing hate losing content like this...
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Originally Posted by Doctorossi
(Post 9143630)
Between that and Storaro's revisionist aspect-ratio, it looks like The Last Emperor is the real loser of this first wave of Criterion discs. What a shame.
Was the DVD version also a loser? Pro-B |
Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist
(Post 9144301)
How so? There is a good reason why Storato did what he did.
Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist
(Post 9144301)
And a good reason why the BD offers the same cut found on the DVD.
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there's 2 versions of the DVD. a 3-disc set, and a 1-disc set. The BD is of the 1-disc set.
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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
(Post 9144365)
Storaro has been accused by a fair number of critics of having a revisionist look at his past work, though.
Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
(Post 9144365)
...but the most extensive DVD set offered more than the Blu-ray does. That's the point of contention.
Pro-B |
could they not locate the 5 channel soundmix done for the 70mm theatrical soundmix? |
Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist
(Post 9144495)
As far as I know the television version isn't approved by anyone, neither Storato nor Bertolucci (or at least that is what my DVD cover reveals)
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Originally Posted by Giles
(Post 9144519)
what happened to the promised 5.1 mix??
could they not locate the 5 channel soundmix done for the 70mm theatrical soundmix? |
Originally Posted by bluetoast
(Post 9140495)
Faye Wong switches the labels on Tony Leung's cans/fish. One of the cans is a fish with a bean flavor or something, and the other was the can that he was used to.
So when the scene occurs when he eats the switched can, he says in the subtitles something like "Even the swordfish tastes different." My friend said that the actual line was like "The fish even has a bean taste to it." Subtle, and not that big a deal, but it's a different line. Then again, I didn't notice that it was a bean related can in the first place last night, so maybe my friend noticed that it was written on the can. In that case, it would have required a separate subtitle for the can in order to get the payoff. The criterion translation is a huge improvement over the Rolling Thunder edition, I just watched the RT version for the first time and it was just terrible . |
Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist
(Post 9144301)
How so? There is a good reason why Storato did what he did.
Meanwhile, the reason he cites is moot vis-a-vis Blu-ray, so even if you're willing to justify it for DVD (which I am not), it's irrelevant to this release.
Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist
(Post 9144301)
Was the DVD version also a loser?
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Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist
(Post 9144495)
Accusations and reality are two different things. In the audio commentary Bertolucci wasn't supportive of the accusations you mention above.
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Not that it's a deal breaker for me (it's already pre-ordered), but I will agree with those upset that the TV version wasn't included with the Blu-ray. I mean, Blu-ray consumers are already accustomed to paying more than average for a disc. I realize that Criterion is pricing their Blu-rays like their DVDs, but the point I'm getting at is that most of us, whether we like it or not, are used to spending more and would probably be willing to do so again if the more extensive version were available.
I think it just shows the uncertainty that Criterion might have regarding Blu-ray at this time. |
Originally Posted by clckworang
(Post 9145785)
I think it just shows the uncertainty that Criterion might have regarding Blu-ray at this time.
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Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist
(Post 9144495)
As far as I know the television version isn't approved by anyone, neither Storato nor Bertolucci (or at least that is what my DVD cover reveals), which is a far more questionable issue to debate compared to what a few critics think of Storato's work.
Do you seriously not understand why this is an issue? |
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