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Old 04-25-08 | 11:07 AM
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Why are they even still tracking Blu-ray vs. HD DVD? It's meaningless at this point.......
They'll probably stop once Warners' stops releasing new HD DVD titles. Even I Am Legend couldn't crack the top 10. I know it wasn't available at B&Ms, but it was $19 on Amazon. I thought alot of HD DVD owners were waiting for that one?
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Old 04-25-08 | 11:23 AM
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AVP2 outsold Juno? You can really tell who the demographic is LOL.
Over America is still in the top 10...that's just crazy.
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Old 04-25-08 | 11:34 AM
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Over America is still in the top 10...that's just crazy.
Hell, 300 is still in the Top 10!
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Old 04-25-08 | 11:42 AM
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They'll probably stop once Warners' stops releasing new HD DVD titles. Even I Am Legend couldn't crack the top 10. I know it wasn't available at B&Ms, but it was $19 on Amazon. I thought alot of HD DVD owners were waiting for that one?

Some people (like Gizmo, as I recall) have been getting the Warner HD DVDs at Fry's on the same day/week that the BDs are being released. Don't know if this has had much impact, but there's that. Also -- like you said -- with so many B&M stores not even carrying HD DVDs, new titles like "I Am Legend" wouldn't be available other than online. And are Amazon's sales figures included in this tally? Lastly, this is a title where the BD version outshines the HD DVD by including several exclusive features, which generally means that any dual format supporters are going to pick the BD . . .
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And are Amazon's sales figures included in this tally?
Yes, they are.
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Old 04-25-08 | 11:57 AM
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I don't think those $5 bins that Walmart has had for years has done favors for DVD. Those have de-valued the format. I'm sure there are plenty of folk who'll wait for X movie to "show up in the bargain bin". I personally don't think we'll ever see a BD $5 bargain bin.

Studios combined are still making over $20 BILLION in DVD revenue. I don't feel too concerned about that. BD was created as a way for the studios to not only re-sell us all of their titles again on a new format, but also as a way to make up for the slow, but steady, loss in revenue from DVD sales each year.

They're going to make their money. With DVD being so established, they are and will, look for other ways to pick up extra revenue. That will come from BD and possibly downloads, though the latter won't be making an impact anytime soon.

When studios began re-releasing the same films for a 3rd, 4th, and sometimes, 5th time, that was a clear indication that most of what everyone wanted to own, had hit the market.

I respectfully disagre with that. Completely. First these discs cost studios how much to produce - $1 or $2, if that much? You sell 1 million of those movies to Walmart at $3.50 a pop, and you are doing good for yourself. Walmart wasn't going to sell 100,000 copies of Under Siege 2 at $13 bucks, but at $5 they may just sell them.

Secondly, as mentioned before, the bins help create the idea of movie ownership, which is important for sales.

Everybody keeps mentioning declining DVD revenue. Thats simply a matter of studios having released most of their catalog in DVD. I don't think it is a reflection of a "de-valued" format or whatnot.
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My Frys had 30 copes of Legend on HD...for $29.99.
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Old 04-25-08 | 04:08 PM
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First these discs cost studios how much to produce - $1 or $2, if that much?
In terms of manufacturing, yes. But you ignore the costs of preparing the HD master, the digital compression, authoring the disc, and the creation of the bonus features. The studio needs to recoup all those expenses.
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Old 04-25-08 | 05:38 PM
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In terms of manufacturing, yes. But you ignore the costs of preparing the HD master, the digital compression, authoring the disc, and the creation of the bonus features. The studio needs to recoup all those expenses.
This is my fear with the classics on BD that the studios will not be able to recoup their investment and just stay away from classics all together.
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Old 04-25-08 | 07:51 PM
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Why are they even still tracking Blu-ray vs. HD DVD? It's meaningless at this point.......
Small potatoes make the steak look bigger.
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Old 04-25-08 | 11:00 PM
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AVP2 outsold Juno? You can really tell who the demographic is LOL.
Over America is still in the top 10...that's just crazy.
I bought the BD of "Juno", but I'm surprised it was even in the top ten. I expected the disc getting a number 7 or 8 spot at best, considering most people, or at least a few of the posters on here, have the line of thinking that a movie like "Juno" isn't 'worthy' of a BD purchase and the DVD version is "good enough". I have the AVP: R BD and I must admit it looked great.

Glad that "No Country For Old Men" and "I Am Legend" are selling well on BD. Pretty good BDs in my opinion.

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This is my fear with the classics on BD that the studios will not be able to recoup their investment and just stay away from classics all together.
That would be awful. I'm glad WB got "Bonnie & Clyde" out on Blu-ray, and a lot of older movies have thankfully been released (like the "Die Hard" films, "The Omega Man", etc.), but a lot more classics need to be released on BD still.

I don't know how well the B&C BD sold, but sadly I'm thinking it didn't sell very well.
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I bought the BD of "Juno", but I'm surprised it was even in the top ten. I expected the disc getting a number 7 or 8 spot at best, considering most people, or at least a few of the posters on here, have the line of thinking that a movie like "Juno" isn't 'worthy' of a BD purchase and the DVD version is "good enough". I have the AVP: R BD and I must admit it looked great.

Glad that "No Country For Old Men" and "I Am Legend" are selling well on BD. Pretty good BDs in my opinion.


That would be awful. I'm glad WB got "Bonnie & Clyde" out on Blu-ray, and a lot of older movies have thankfully been released (like the "Die Hard" films, "The Omega Man", etc.), but a lot more classics need to be released on BD still.

I don't know how well the B&C BD sold, but sadly I'm thinking it didn't sell very well.
I thought AVP:R was way to dark and the film no where as good as Juno. I'm glad Juno did so well.

As for Bonnie and Clyde, it never cracked the top 10. Predator did....
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Originally Posted by DVD Polizei
Small potatoes make the steak look bigger.
I think HD DVD is more like peas at this point.
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Old 04-26-08 | 12:10 PM
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..Are we quoting Juno now or something?
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Old 04-26-08 | 12:17 PM
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Nah - we're not nearly that clever.
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Old 04-26-08 | 12:33 PM
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I thought AVP:R was way to dark and the film no where as good as Juno. I'm glad Juno did so well.

As for Bonnie and Clyde, it never cracked the top 10. Predator did....
From a critical standpoint "Alien vs. Predator: Requiem" wasn't good at all. Comparing a film like "Juno" which is at %93 on RT, to AVP: R which is at %15 on RT is just silly, but I had some problems with "Juno". Unlike "Juno", I expected AVP: R to have bad acting, terrible dialog, people you don't really care about, you know, the usual B movie stuff. None of that was in "Juno" except for some terrible, pretentious dialog at the beginning, but I was expecting more than I got. I guess I enjoyed AVP: R because I wasn't expecting much, and I got a movie that wasn't unwatchable and looked pretty good on Blu-ray.

I didn't think "Bonnie & Clyde" sold that great, sadly. I guess it doesn't fit a good portion of the demographic that buys BDs. It probably sold alright, but nothing that broke into the top 10.
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Old 05-02-08 | 03:19 PM
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No charts available yet, but Alien vs Predator: Requiem stayed #1 on the BD sales chart. Juno remained at #2. I Am Legend #3.
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Im so glad that crap One Missed Call is not #1.
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Old 05-02-08 | 04:09 PM
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I really hope The Orphanage had a decent showing so New Line is encouraged to do more releases like it.
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Chart is up...someone needs to post it I can't.

250k discs were sold last week. SI compared to HD DVD is gone.
Most of the top 20 titles were ones sold at Target during the sale.
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I really hope The Orphanage had a decent showing so New Line is encouraged to do more releases like it.
It was #8.
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Old 05-02-08 | 05:49 PM
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Old 05-02-08 | 05:52 PM
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Chart is up...someone needs to post it I can't.

250k discs were sold last week. SI compared to HD DVD is gone.
Most of the top 20 titles were ones sold at Target during the sale.
It's apparent that $19.99 is the sweet spot for HD titles. Every time Target has a sale, those titles are in the top 10/20. I don't think new release pricing will drop at all this year, but I think we will see at least 1 or 2 "A" list titles debut with a possible $20 price point during release week. Iron Man, Dark Knight perhaps?
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Old 05-02-08 | 07:25 PM
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I'm glad to see them publishing the volume and revenue numbers. Those will be interesting to track for the rest of '08.
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Old 05-11-08 | 11:49 AM
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