Amazon's 18.95 price on this should help the numbers too I think.

Now if only more day-and-date BD's got priced this way, I would blind buy a lot more.

i gotcha. you're just saying that blogs are not a reliable source of factual information. on that, we definitely agree!

I don't see what this has to do with "casual" vs "serious" movie fans. I know a number of people with large DVD collections, including myself, who have absolutely no intention of re-buying titles they already own on DVD, except when it involves a release with a crappy and/or non-anamorphic transfer, or a film they find exceptional. I think you're confusing "serious movie fan" with "serious techno fan".

Here's some perspective guys... The studios are not going to sell 100,000 of every title, especially this early in the life cycle of the format.

Air Force One was the first DVD to sell 100,000 - It was released in February 1998, about 1 year after the format launch in March 1997. (Casino Royale was the first Blu-ray discs to do so... 10 months after the formats' soft launch in the summer of '06.)

The Matrix was the first title to sell 1,000,000 units, it was release September 1999, two and a have years after the formats launch.

As always, we have to remember that Blu-ray while the successor to DVD, it will not result in the out-right format dump. VHS had so many disadvantages over DVD it was ridiculous. Also, most people do not have the technology (i.e. televisions) to take advantage of Blu-ray or HDM in general.

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Well said. I'm much more tempted to spring a couple extra bucks for the (new release) Blu-ray version of a movie which I don't own which usually has all the extras that are on the 2-disc version of the DVD than I am to rebuy a movie I have already bought at least once and watched a few times which has significantly less extras.

So, blu-ray caught on faster than DVD or Casino Royale is just better than Air Force One? Hmm...

Maybe I should have said "serious home theater" fan.

From my perspective, I want the best technical presentation available of any film I have in my collection, even if it's a marginal improvement over the DVD.

I realize this is not a priority for all "serious movie fans", but for me, as a serious film fan, I want the best presentation for my library.

Perfect example - I A-B'd Sea Of Love, and while the HD DVD was marginally better, it was still worth having IMO.

http://tvshowsondvd.com/news/Rescue-Season-4/9249

Rescue Me Season 4 announced....on DVD. No mention of a Blu-ray release. They better not pull this BS with Lost Season 4 as I'd hate to have Season 1 and 2 on DVD, 3 on Blu-ray, and 4 on DVD. Wonder if sales were poor?

Did Cars on Blu-ray come with the Disnye points insert? My brand new copy from Best Buy had no such insert yet mentions the code on the outside of the case...

My copy from November did.

Grr. I e-mailed Disney but looks like I will be returning this to a different Best Buy in hopes of getting a copy with points. Hell I don't even know if I will ever get enough to buy anything but those points are just so damn collectible! Damn you Disney!

You're kidding, right? You're going to return a perfectly good disc because THE POINTS are missing?!?

Yes. Much like many will return a disc if the insert is missing or the plastic sticker overlaps on the artwork.

Good point, except the movie points have nothing to do with the movie. It's like returning the movie because it didn't have a Verizon ad included.

I own over 1,200 standard dvds. So far I've replaced about 100 with blu-ray and HD-dvds. I will not replace all of them. I do want a better picture and sound for certain movies. BUT, I refuse to pay $30 - $40 for any dvd, even if it's sprinkled with gold dust!! Any future movies I purchase will only be hd.

So, I suppose you consider ALL new release DVDs to be selling poorly? Because many retailers (according to Video Business, a source that Gizmo considers reputable, but you apparently consider to be "numbers twisters") are now reporting that key Blu-ray titles are selling between 5% and 10% of their day-and-date DVD release counterparts.

"C'mon now", right back at ya...

One inference does not follow the other. Pirates of the Caribbean: AWE sold 8.5 million DVD's its first week - its DVD sales were excellent. No Country for Old Men sold 925,000 copies its first week, making it a poor seller by comparison. These numbers have nothing to do with Blu Ray numbers.

What Josh Z means by "numbers twist[ing]", I assume, is that saying No Country for Old Men's BD release sold whatever% of its total throughput makes this a good relative achievement, but not a particularly outrageous absolute achievement. Between 5 and 10% of your day and date DVD release counterpart means something when you are moving 8.5 million DVD's...when you move 925,000, not so much.

This article here says that Enchanted was the top home video seller last week by a bit , but that I am Legend topped the Blu Ray chart and sold nearly 4x times as many copies of Enchanted Blu Ray..is that surprise? Absolutely not. Again, no numbers are posted, instead its just a multiplier.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080327/film_nm/dvd_dc_1

And, according to this article, I am Legend trounced Enchanted in the theater B.O.

Except the points can be redeemed for other merchandise, including Blu-ray discs. That Verizon ad is just that, an ad.

We're talking about one title: No Country for Old Men, the #1 highest selling title for last week. Video Business is reporting this a huge success for Blu-ray because the BD sold 15% as many copies as the DVD. What they specifically neglect to mention is that the DVD sold quite poorly for a major new release. Therefore, that 15% isn't such a great achievement after all. This is the same bullshit numbers distortion we saw during the format war, where the "2:1" sales ratio was trumpeted, ignoring the fact that the difference was barely a couple hundred copies between them.

Any time sales data is given as percentages or ratios without hard numbers to support it, that should be an immediate signal that something fishy is going on.

This isn't an anti-Blu-ray rant. Blu-ray is the only High-Def game left in town and I want to see it succeed. What I can't stand are all the lies and misinformation being shoved down our throats. You may have a much higher tolerance for bullshit than I do.

BD sold 6 million discs from June '06 to end of '07, with competition from a rival format. Through 11 weeks this year, they have sold 3 million discs and are projected for 15 million discs this year.

DVD had sold almost 20 million discs in year 3.

This is a positive from my point of view. Others may not see it that way, but I'll take any sort of growth for BD as good news.

I'm really torn on this. S4 sucked hard IMo and was the worst of the series, so I don't really feel like I HAVE to buy it. But if S5 redeems the series, then I'll feel like I need it.

I'd think Lost did much better on BD than Rescue Me. I remember Best Buy was selling it for 64.99 release week and Amazon had a pretty good price too. Time will tell I guess.

Just because the numbers aren't being presented in your format of choice, doesn't make it "lies", "misinformation" or "bullshit". Honestly, I can't really understand your hostility. The whole point of a ranking like this is to compare the relative sales of titles against each other. And many retailers and studios are anxious to how Blu-ray compare against their standard DVD counterparts.

I think the focus on box office dollars (epsecially on opening week) has been very harmful to the theatrical movie business. Do they even books sold in the bestsellers lists?

HDM is still a yound markets. Sales are still slow. Duh. Does the industry need to constantly publish that? No. Why would anybody? What new industry brags about how slows it is? None. They focus on their successes. It's not lies or misinformation. Spin, perhaps, but I'd consider that a bit harsh also.

I consider NCFOM's achievement admirable, especially for a niche movie like it, without a lot of splashy special effects. It proves that not only "PS3-owning kids" are buying HDM.

If all you care about is the points (which I think is lame, but which is valid), don't compare it to an insert or an art-covering sticker, both of which are related to the movie in question. If anything, it's more like a Verizon coupon.

Why not try contacting Disney before trashing the entire release. Those losing 250 points aren't going to get you significantly closer to a free Blu-ray.

PS. If you want to discuss further, which I don't really, please move the conversation to a more appropriate topic.

Hey, there is a good amount a violence in the movie, which definitely plays to the "PS3 demographic". During the talking parts they just go back to playing their PSP's. ;)