General Blu-ray News and Discussion - Part 5
#676
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Originally Posted by aynrandgirl
I don't want Ethernet on my player, especially if using it is mandatory, precisely because I don't want studios uploading lockout codes and other nasty stuff without my permission.

Simply don't plug in an ethernet cable or setup the internet settings then.
#677
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Originally Posted by QuePaso
Press Release hit this morning for the new Sony Blu-ray Players.
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...4762264&EDATE=
Key facts:
S350 + S550 are BD Live 2.0 players
S350 ships as a 1.1 player and will later be upgraded via firmware to 2.0
S550 will ship as a 2.0 and you can upgrade the memory via expansion to however big you want
400 for S350, 500 for S550
S350 decodes TrueHD and Bitstreams DTS HD MA
S550 Decodes all formats possible including DTS HD MA and has 7.1 Analog Out
And other good stuff. Read the article for more info.
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...4762264&EDATE=
Key facts:
S350 + S550 are BD Live 2.0 players
S350 ships as a 1.1 player and will later be upgraded via firmware to 2.0
S550 will ship as a 2.0 and you can upgrade the memory via expansion to however big you want
400 for S350, 500 for S550
S350 decodes TrueHD and Bitstreams DTS HD MA
S550 Decodes all formats possible including DTS HD MA and has 7.1 Analog Out
And other good stuff. Read the article for more info.
#678
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Here's my question...why would you want to upgrade the memory at all? Thats something I never understood. Would additional space make it run faster/better? Do they really have more then 1GB of downloadable stuff planned? $5 says you have to buy a Sony Pro Duo card 

Also, your comments are veering dangerously close to troll territory. I'm not saying every comment here has to be 100% positive about Blu-ray, but at the same time, trying to tear apart every piece of good news in an attempt to find a negative underside (which may in fact not exist at all) isn't what we're about, either.
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Here's my question...why would you want to upgrade the memory at all? Thats something I never understood. Would additional space make it run faster/better? Do they really have more then 1GB of downloadable stuff planned? $5 says you have to buy a Sony Pro Duo card 

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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
Why would you want to upgrade the memory? So you can have more space to store content on, or to play your own content a la the Panasonic players. Given that the PS3 has memory slots for more than Sony memory, I imagine the 550 will also have slots for different types of memory. And even if it only has a slot for a Sony card, well, those cards are an accepted memory standard at this point, and a lot of people have a card or two floating around their house.
Also, your comments are veering dangerously close to troll territory. I'm not saying every comment here has to be 100% positive about Blu-ray, but at the same time, trying to tear apart every piece of good news in an attempt to find a negative underside (which may in fact not exist at all) isn't what we're about, either.
Also, your comments are veering dangerously close to troll territory. I'm not saying every comment here has to be 100% positive about Blu-ray, but at the same time, trying to tear apart every piece of good news in an attempt to find a negative underside (which may in fact not exist at all) isn't what we're about, either.
Last edited by tonymontana313; 02-26-08 at 10:23 AM.
#681
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The only negative I see with the new Sony player announcement is that the price is still higher than the PS3. At some point they need to take a hit and price the standalone player competitively against the PS3, like $100 cheaper. Just doesn't make sense to charge the same or more for a player that does less.
#682
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
Why would you want to upgrade the memory? So you can have more space to store content on, or to play your own content a la the Panasonic players. Given that the PS3 has memory slots for more than Sony memory, I imagine the 550 will also have slots for different types of memory. And even if it only has a slot for a Sony card, well, those cards are an accepted memory standard at this point, and a lot of people have a card or two floating around their house.
Also, your comments are veering dangerously close to troll territory. I'm not saying every comment here has to be 100% positive about Blu-ray, but at the same time, trying to tear apart every piece of good news in an attempt to find a negative underside (which may in fact not exist at all) isn't what we're about, either.
Also, your comments are veering dangerously close to troll territory. I'm not saying every comment here has to be 100% positive about Blu-ray, but at the same time, trying to tear apart every piece of good news in an attempt to find a negative underside (which may in fact not exist at all) isn't what we're about, either.
#683
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Originally Posted by PerryD
The only negative I see with the new Sony player announcement is that the price is still higher than the PS3. At some point they need to take a hit and price the standalone player competitively against the PS3, like $100 cheaper. Just doesn't make sense to charge the same or more for a player that does less.
#684
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Originally Posted by tonymontana313
Dan is it possible for CE companies to supply Dvdtalk with players for reviews as well or could that request be put it in?
Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
I don't have a Panasonic player so I have no idea you can play your own content on (MP3s?). I really don't know and asked a question of why you would need a memory card for additional space. With the PS3 being a media hub, I don't think the new Sony SA players will support a wide array of memory cards. Pro Duo and maybe SD. Don't take my comments as trolling because I do not know the answer so I asked a question.
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#685
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
Some of the Panny players have memory ports that let you play your own HD content (either downloaded off the internet, edited on your computer, or recorded straight from a camcorder). Given that you generally know the specs of almost all of the players on both formats, I presumed you knew that.
#686
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Gizmodo has more on the Sony BR players...
http://gizmodo.com/360642/bdp+s350-a...lu+ray-players
I do like the fact that the mock-up appears to show that the Blu-ray tray is hidden behind that latch...I love that feature on my XA1.
http://gizmodo.com/360642/bdp+s350-a...lu+ray-players
The most important difference, besides that $100 and a little bit of girth, is that the S350 is slated for a summer release, while the S550 won't be here until fall.
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Originally Posted by PerryD
The only negative I see with the new Sony player announcement is that the price is still higher than the PS3. At some point they need to take a hit and price the standalone player competitively against the PS3, like $100 cheaper. Just doesn't make sense to charge the same or more for a player that does less.
It is worth noting that the S550 can decode DTS HD MA internally, and the PS3 cannot. Hopefully, when this is released, the PS3 will be able to as well.
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Originally Posted by tonymontana313
Also the S550 can bitstream DTS MA which already makes it better than the PS3 in my book.
When weighing a very very decent BD player that plays games against the best current model of BD player at similar pricepoints, I (and I would assume most) would select the PS3. If Sony wants to shake the image of BD as being the PS3 movie format, then they need to start moving some SAs, and they need to be priced more attractively than PS3 to do so.
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Originally Posted by tonymontana313
Also the S550 can bitstream DTS MA which already makes it better than the PS3 in my book.
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Originally Posted by tonymontana313
Dan, is it possible for CE companies to supply Dvdtalk with players for reviews as well or could that request be put in?
Also, regarding the pricing and the PS3 dependability, I believe that as the market expands there will be more and more people that would look for standalones over the PS3. As great as the PS3 has been it is my opinion that its success during the war was due precisely because of the fact that it was both a future-proof machine as well as a media/game-console. This bodes well with early adopters but I think that there is larger group of people who will simply opt for a high-quality standalone over the PS3. I also believe that when the Sapphires enter the market they will be competitive in terms of pricing to the PS3.
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Originally Posted by PerryD
And as mentioned, the S550 doesn't come out until the fall. The PS3 will be $299 and may already pass DTS MA by the time the S550 is released.
Also, as one of the more ardent BD supporters, even I can agree that the PS3 is not meant to be a long term BD player so I do welcome quality standalones as the S550.
#694
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Originally Posted by PerryD
And as mentioned, the S550 doesn't come out until the fall. The PS3 will be $299 and may already pass DTS MA by the time the S550 is released.
#695
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Originally Posted by Drexl
We'll see, but I seriously doubt the PS3 will be $299 this year.
#696
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Originally Posted by PerryD
Why do you believe this? Or do you believe there will only be a $50 price drop this year? I think the $299 is a must reach price point for Sony this year if they want to compete against Microsoft and Nintendo (who will both have their own price drops this year too)
I just wish Sony would do something about the IR situation on the PS3. I'm running the Schmartz adapter, which is OK, but it would be nice to have full rmeote functionality.
#697
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Originally Posted by PerryD
Why do you believe this? Or do you believe there will only be a $50 price drop this year? I think the $299 is a must reach price point for Sony this year if they want to compete against Microsoft and Nintendo (who will both have their own price drops this year too)
#698
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Originally Posted by GreenMonkey
Nintendo isn't going to drop the price of their console until the demand dies off. It doesn't really look like that is going to happen any time soon
PS3 sales last week were around half of the Wii, at around 44k. Sales of the PS3 and 360 have been neck-and-neck since the launch of the stripped down $399 lasts November, so I think there will be pressure from both to lower prices to sustain sales through the spring and summer.
Originally Posted by Drexl
I just don't think they'll drop the price again so soon. If they drop it this summer, that would essentially be going from $600 to $300 in about a year and a half. I could be wrong, and it would be nice if they did drop it again, but I don't think it will happen this year. Of course, that depends on what the other companies do.
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Originally Posted by Drexl
I just don't think they'll drop the price again so soon. If they drop it this summer, that would essentially be going from $600 to $300 in about a year and a half. I could be wrong, and it would be nice if they did drop it again, but I don't think it will happen this year. Of course, that depends on what the other companies do.
Why not? BD players had their MSRPs cut by more than half within that same amount of time, and look what happened with HD DVD player pricing. In order to compete with the 360 and the Wii, the PS3 is going to need another drop in price. It's done wonders for Blu-ray, but as a game console, it hasn't been competing very well.
Therein lies the real "catch 22" with the PS3. I don't think Blu-ray could have survived without it, but in order for the PS3 to compete with other game systems, it's going to have to be priced more competitively.
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Originally Posted by applesandrice
Why not? BD players had their MSRPs cut by more than half within that same amount of time, and look what happened with HD DVD player pricing. In order to compete with the 360 and the Wii, the PS3 is going to need another drop in price. It's done wonders for Blu-ray, but as a game console, it hasn't been competing very well.
Therein lies the real "catch 22" with the PS3. I don't think Blu-ray could have survived without it, but in order for the PS3 to compete with other game systems, it's going to have to be priced more competitively.
Therein lies the real "catch 22" with the PS3. I don't think Blu-ray could have survived without it, but in order for the PS3 to compete with other game systems, it's going to have to be priced more competitively.



