Posted this on another forum:

Just use NEUVIEW or any filtering software, author your own movies and make the best source possible on your own. Please HD-DVD supportes, go out in panic and sell all your software. I'll gladly go buy it cheap. Don't let these idiots tell you what you have to see and in what way, take a stand and create (or buy) your own HTPC. That's the wave of the future, streaming video and online content. physical discs are like DVD-A & SACD. They'll fade away. i got tired of buying these formats and ended up creating my own surround sound music. The same will happen with movie content on discs. I will keep on buying HD-DVD and expect great bargains with this panic mode. in the end is the movies that we look forward to, not the brand or format. If they don't look good, make them look good. Off to ebay....

As I posted earlier (but I guess in a flurry of posts it got ignored), I would expect HD DVD support to become a feature set in most BD players. Why? Now that they've won, each company has to attract potential customers. There are more than 500,000 HD DVD customers out there. That's more than ALL non-PS3 BD customers in the marketplace. How else do BD companies attract these people?

Any chance Toshiba will release a firmware update to change my A3 into a Blu ray player?

Pure FUD speculation from a person who hates BD because he hates Sony.

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Hey. Half a billion is half a billion. All is fair when the mighty green is shown.

http://formatwarcentral.com/index.ph...-from-the-bda/

It's utterly bizarre that people think they need to start returning/selling HD-DVD discs and players based on some announcement. This isn't DIVX folks...they will keep working. Someone actually said they were glad for combos (?!?!). With this kind of attitude why did you buy into either of the HD formats in the first place? Is this just a herd mentality or what?

I imagine Dual Format players will still be somewhat of the norm n the next few months. You now have close a million people with a "dead" format with discs. Do you really think they want to go out and buy another player? Dual Format makes the most sense as they could still watch the movies they already purchased.

Samsung and LG sales will pickup in the next few weeks. Hopefully we see other CEs as well. If this is really the end for HD DVD (and it seems to be), then Dual format is where I want to go.

Many of those are already dual owners, and the crowd to go after is the DVD only people anyway.

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Funny seeing a Blu Ray commercial on Universal HD channel while I watch Jericho.

The point is that the discs exist, and CE manufacturers want to move players in quantity. What better way than to attract those who already show a proclivity toward spending money on HDM?

Don't turn this thread into a "hahah you suck red ants" thread. We have all been handling ourselves fairly well.

However, you still have to look at what is going on with Blu-ray.

You have an unfinished "spec" of a machine, and you have studios like Fox who think barebones MSRP $39.99 is a fair price for movies. How many of us refuse to by said movies unless they are BOGO? Will BOGOs continue? Will the "Buy a Blu-ray player get X movies free" continue? Will we see the price of all future Blu-ray players jump up to the $500+ mark? Lots of "ifs" that we don't know yet.

"We do wonder if FOX was just playing the HD DVD side, while having no intentions of ever switching." :D

http://formatwarcentral.com/index.ph...-from-the-bda/

This info is coming from MULTIPLE people as well on many different forums. Many who are considered "insders" to some degree.

Edit: Many who have known for several days what was going on but couldn't speak about it. C

I wonder what those in Europe and Japan think about this.

Exactly, GizmoDVD.

I definitely believe that is what we are going to see happen. Especially since isn't Paramount supposed to remain exclusive to HD DVD for at least 12 more months? What about Universal, who knows how long they will hold out. The longer HD DVD is produced, the more dual format players we are going to see released.

I doubt "many". 90k bought the $99 A2 from Wal-Mart in one day. Those people may have been starting a collection of HDM movies. How many received them as gifts over the holidays with several discs?

This is going to be a pretty big issue in the next few weeks and I am curious to see how the BDA handles it.

Extremely disappointing anouncement, particularly since Warner had always been so supportive of HD-DVD (at least until Steve Nickerson left the company a few months ago). I did my part, especially in regards to picking up many of their classic catalog titles, but it wasn't enough. Ironically, I received another random, unbilled delivery of HD-DVDs from Warner this afternoon. Thanks...?

Sony certainly doesn't have any incentive to go about lowering the prices on their players at this point, so until Blu comes into a reasonable price range, which is unlikely to happen until 2009 at the earliest, I'll be stepping out of the high def game.

It only takes one person to start a shitstorm and a few people to report it before it becomes the "truth". If the Blu-Ray camp did "buy" WB then so be it. It is all fair in love and HDM. Ask Paramount about that. If this is what it takes then I am glad it ends sooner than later.

Payments are fine. I don't really care. However, for people that were pissed about Paramount taking it, its seems to be all fine and dandy even though Fox/Warner took it as well. Thats whats troubling.

In the end, HD DVD is/was a great format. I'll still continue to buy titles for it until it dies.

Haven't read the whole thread yet, but damn! I had just bought a HD player and 20 or so HDs. All but two are unopened, so I could still return everything I guess.

But then, I don't have an upconverting DVD player, so maybe just keep my A3? Darn, just remembered that I have the 360 add-on as well. Decisions......

The way I see it is, it's not the end of the world. Honestly now. Like it's been said, it's not like my X-Box attachment (or any HD for that matter) will just cease to work in 6 months or a year or whatever. It just becomes the intensely supported niche within a niche.

Also if this whole Fox/WB/Toshiba/BDA stuff is true, I smell lawsuits and studios going back and forth for a long time yet.

The war is not over. It's just begun.

I still haven't forgiven Warner for the snapper case.

What's troubling about it? If it is true then why are so many people in the HD-Dvd camp going wild since they were part of this same type of mess less than six months ago? Again, if it took a buyout to end it then I am fine with that. And I am glad that it ended in Blu-Ray's favor as I see more upswing with this format than with HD-Dvd. I enjoy both of them but this really couldn't go on forever.