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Gizmo 11-25-07 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by bunkaroo
You should mention their mistake to them. ;)

I don't think they even know what HDMI is. The only thing the Target Manager could tell me about Blu-ray was that they come in Blue cases, the other movies are over there, and they can also play the Red case movies with a special update through Sony. :lol:

bunkaroo 11-25-07 12:43 PM

Sounds like the perfect opportunity to educate their manager, should you desire to do so.

Gizmo 11-25-07 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by bunkaroo
Sounds like the perfect opportunity to educate their manager, should you desire to do so.

Nope, I learned long ago not to do that. They will simply roll their eyes and assume they know what is right. If a customer is unsure (when looking at the movies etc,) I will say something, but never to an employee. I will not be THAT guy.

bunkaroo 11-25-07 12:56 PM

OK so you knew this question was coming.

Honestly, would your actions be the same if it was an A3 instead of a BDP-S300?

Gizmo 11-25-07 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by bunkaroo
OK so you knew this question was coming.

Honestly, would your actions be the same if it was an A3 instead of a BDP-S300?

Again, nothing. I have bit my tongue many times when looking at both format players at stores when they start spouting off incorrect statements. There is just not point. The employee usually rolls his eyes and continues to believe whatever he wants to, even if its wrong. Out of the few times I did this in the past (correcting employees), only one of them has said "Thanks, I didn't know that" they other ones continued on saying they were correct and that I was wrong. Not worth my time anymore.

As I stated before, I will always help out customers as they tend to believe me (a customer) over an employee (who wants to sell them something). I have MANY times answered questions for owners of both formats including what studio supports who, why can't I play this movie, what is HDMI etc. Just a few days ago on Black Friday I was helping out an older couple who had a Sony BDP-300 player in his hands. He wanted to know why Ratatattiou would not a Combo like his Happy Feet HD DVD he bought.

bunkaroo 11-25-07 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Again, nothing. I have bit my tongue many times when looking at both format players at stores when they start spouting off incorrect statements. There is just not point. The employee usually rolls his eyes and continues to believe whatever he wants to, even if its wrong. Out of the few times I did this in the past (correcting employees), only one of them has said "Thanks, I didn't know that" they other ones continued on saying they were correct and that I was wrong. Not worth my time anymore.

As I stated before, I will always help out customers as they tend to believe me (a customer) over an employee (who wants to sell them something). I have MANY times answered questions for owners of both formats including what studio supports who, why can't I play this movie, what is HDMI etc. Just a few days ago on Black Friday I was helping out an older couple who had a Sony BDP-300 player in his hands. He wanted to know why Ratatattiou would not a Combo like his Happy Feet HD DVD he bought.

Acknowledged.

Arpeggi 11-25-07 04:03 PM

Ratatouille.

Music 11-25-07 04:13 PM

:brickwl2:

Drexl 11-25-07 10:14 PM

What is wrong with them using component cables? If you meant composite, that would be bad, but component is about as good as HDMI.

Tutut 11-26-07 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by Drexl
What is wrong with them using component cables? If you meant composite, that would be bad, but component is about as good as HDMI.

Component is restrected to HD-Ready (1080i/720p).

kefrank 11-26-07 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Tutut
Component is restrected to HD-Ready (1080i/720p).

1080i/720p is HD, not HD-ready. 720p, 1080i, and 1080p are all high definition resolutions according to the HD spec.

"HD-ready" traditionally refers to a television that can display hi-def resolutions, but does not have a built-in HD tuner.

tonymontana313 11-26-07 06:28 PM

Btw, for those that haven't purchased Bad Santa yet, the PQ on this is very nice. Colors are quite sharp and there is a good amount of detail.

Gizmo 11-26-07 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by tonymontana313
Btw, for those that haven't purchased Bad Santa yet, the PQ on this is very nice. Colors are quite sharp and there is a good amount of detail.

Looking forward to buying this at the next BOGO. This movie is just way to funny.

For those that have seen it...whats better, the Directors Cut or Unrated Version? The Blu-Ray has both versions.

tonymontana313 11-27-07 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Looking forward to buying this at the next BOGO. This movie is just way to funny.

For those that have seen it...whats better, the Directors Cut or Unrated Version? The Blu-Ray has both versions.

I've seen the theatrical and unrated version but I definitely prefer the Director's cut on this one.

Josh Z 11-27-07 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by tonymontana313
Btw, for those that haven't purchased Bad Santa yet, the PQ on this is very nice. Colors are quite sharp and there is a good amount of detail.

Did they clear up the edge enhancement that marred the DVD?

tonymontana313 11-27-07 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by Josh Z
Did they clear up the edge enhancement that marred the DVD?

Yes! I really love the look of the transfer on the director's cut. I haven't checked out the unrated cut and I understand that is a different encode all together.

Harry Lime 11-27-07 10:50 PM


Blu-ray Owns 73% of HD Market in Europe

LONDON (Reuters) - High definition movie DVDs in the Blu-ray format have outsold the rival HD DVD standard in Europe this year, breaking the 1 million barrier and constituting 73 percent of all HD movie discs sold.

Citing industry sales data, the Blu-ray disc association said in a statement on Tuesday Blu-ray movie disc sales had topped 1 million units and when counting Blu-ray gaming discs the total number produced for sale in Europe exceeded 21 million units.

Sony's PlayStation 3 game console includes a Blu-ray Disc drive.

Hollywood and electronics manufacturers are hoping that new high-definition DVDs, with better picture quality and more capacity, will revive the slowing home DVD market.

But the launch of the next-generation DVD players has been complicated by the fact that there are two competing technologies available, Blu-ray and HD DVD.

HD DVD was developed by Toshiba Corp (6502.T: Quote, Profile, Research) while Sony Corp (6758.T: Quote, Profile, Research) backs the Blu-ray standard.

Of the high definition movie discs bought by consumers so far this year in Europe, 73 percent were in the Blu-ray Disc format and 27 percent were HD DVD, according to sales data provided by Media Control Gfk International.

Blu-ray said the best selling titles were 300, Spider-Man 3 and Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End.

Home Media Research said in October Blu-ray Disc DVD titles had outsold rival HD-DVD titles by almost two-to-one in the first nine months of the year in the United States.
http://www.reuters.com/article/techn...38108420071127

Tutut 11-28-07 01:27 AM


Originally Posted by kefrank
1080i/720p is HD, not HD-ready. 720p, 1080i, and 1080p are all high definition resolutions according to the HD spec.

"HD-ready" traditionally refers to a television that can display hi-def resolutions, but does not have a built-in HD tuner.

In Europe, we have official logos from EICTA (European Industry Association for Information Systems, Communication Technologies and Consumer Electronics):
http://www.eicta.org/fileadmin/user_...1160752163.jpg
For 720p/1080i TV sets.

and this new one for 1080p devices :

http://www.pioneer.eu/images/eur/HDready1080p.gif

What I meant is, Blu-Ray and HD-DVD players can't output 1080p from component, this definition is HDMI only.

Tutut 11-28-07 01:38 AM

BD+HD-DVD in Europe represent 1% of the DVD market. :)

Supermallet 11-28-07 02:30 AM


Originally Posted by Tutut
What I meant is, Blu-Ray and HD-DVD players can't output 1080p from component, this definition is HDMI only.

AFAIK, most HD/BD players could output 1080p over component, it's just that there are so few TVs that will accept 1080p over component that it's practically useless.

Burnt Thru 11-28-07 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by Tutut
BD+HD-DVD in Europe represent 1% of the DVD market. :)

very similar to the american situation in that regard.

RockStrongo 11-28-07 09:09 AM

I thought HD Ready just meant that a tv needs an hd source connected to it.

Giles 11-28-07 09:50 AM

question regarding import BluRay discs are they region coded? I want to pick up ABBA the Movie from the UK - will my PS3 be able to play it?

kefrank 11-28-07 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Tutut
What I meant is, Blu-Ray and HD-DVD players can't output 1080p from component, this definition is HDMI only.

i'm still not sure what "HD-ready" has to do with it. both of the logos you showed say "HD-ready." as i stated before, typically that terminology refers to televisions that can display hi-def resolutions, but do not have a built-in HD tuner. perhaps it means something different in europe, but those logos do not suggest anything different to me. the term is not directly related to what inputs a TV has or what specific HD resolutions it can display, as far as i know.

the "HD-ready 1080p" logo, i would imagine, means that the tv is HD-ready and it can display 1080p resolution. no resolution is specified on the other logo, because none was needed until 1080p came along, since 720p/1080i was the only option.

i'm not intending to come down on you, but rather to just clarify the terminology for everyone and dispel the marketing myth that 1080p is the only "true" or "full" hi-definition. 720p, 1080i, and 1080p are all high definition, per the standard.

Josh Z 11-28-07 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by tonymontana313
Yes! I really love the look of the transfer on the director's cut. I haven't checked out the unrated cut and I understand that is a different encode all together.

Good to hear. The DVD is pretty hideous.


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