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For anyone who is interested, I just found some artwork for Superbad and it seems it will be a 2-disc unrated version...
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2.../superbadd.gif Thanks Pro-B. |
Again, I was at that Panasonic event, and if anyone is telling you they saw a palpable difference in image quality from one player to another, I will show you a man who has been hoodwinked. I promise you that if you did a double blind test between the two, no one would be able to accurately tell the difference. They projected an image from the current Panny player and then the upcoming one and they looked exactly the same as well as the comparison between the Panny and the Sony. That being said, it's still an excellent player with a lot of cool features at a decent price point.
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Originally Posted by Harry Lime
For anyone who is interested, I just found some artwork for Superbad and it seems it will be a 2-disc unrated version...
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2.../superbadd.gif Thanks Pro-B. Are all the extras in HD? There's alot....but not that much. |
Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Wait... 2 discs? 50GB can't hold all that stuff?
Are all the extras in HD? There's alot....but not that much. Sony has officially announced Superbad. The film will be available to own in single ($28.95) and two-disc unrated ($34.95) editions from the 4th December. Each will carry an anamorphic widescreen transfer, along with an English Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround track. Extras on the two-disc include commentaries by Judd Apatow, Seth Rogren, Greg Mottola, Evan Goldberg, Jonah Hill, Michael Cera and Christopher Mintz-Plasse, a making of featurette, deleted and extended scenes, Cop Car Confessions – A Ride Along with Clark County’s Finest, a gag reel, cast audition footage, read throughs, a Snakes on Jonah" featurette, and on-set diaries. Completing the set will be Michael's Voicemails from Jonah, a featurette on the music, a Dancing Title Sequence, and a Vag-tastic Voyage feature. A Blu-ray release will also be available for $43.95. This will include all of the above (presented in high-definition), along with an extra 'SuperMeter' function. The film itself will be presented in 1.85:1 widescreen (1080p) with accompanying Dolby TrueHD 5.1 and PCM 5.1 soundtracks. |
Here's some follow up about possible change for Warners Bros. in '08. Sounds like Q4 is going to determine WB's exclusive plans.
"A Warner source said the studio is watching what happens now that Wal-Mart and other big retailers are selling entry-level Toshiba HD DVD players for less than $200, about half what the cheapest Blu-ray player costs. If there is a significant spike in HD DVD software sales, the studio may cast its lot with that format, whereas if there is no real impact, Warner may go Blu-ray only." http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...2bb7aed90a45d6 |
Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist
the $500 DMP-BD30 produced clearly better sharpness and richer colors on the title Legends of Jazz than did a competing player, the $500 Sony BDP-S300
Originally Posted by Suprmallet
I was at that Panasonic event, and if anyone is telling you they saw a palpable difference in image quality from one player to another, I will show you a man who has been hoodwinked.
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Originally Posted by PerryD
Thanks for the words of sanity, Suprmallet. It's hard to believe that one 1080p player sending raw digital image over HDMI can be better than another. It's all 1's and 0's. The difference can only be in the display device.
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I think it's different for video though. There are different decoders, and some post-processing going on. Remember how the early Samsung player had an incorrect setting for its denoise chip?
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Originally Posted by Harry Lime
Here are the specs from DVDActive...
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The new Panasonic player certainly sounds impressive. The only disappointment is that it won't decode TrueHD, DTS-HD-MA, and DD+ on-board; it only extracts the core for each. Only people who have the latest and greatest receivers that can handle the HDMI bitstreams for those formats can take advantage of them. That means that the analog 5.1 output is only useful for space-hogging PCM audio tracks, so far as I can tell.
In terms of support for advanced audio formats (DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD), this is provided on the BD30 via bitstream only. The on-board Dolby and DTS decoders will only decode the "core" portions of DTS-HD, Dolby Digital Plus or Dolby TrueHD soundtracks. -bigpicturebigsound.com review |
Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
Here's some follow up about possible change for Warners Bros. in '08. Sounds like Q4 is going to determine WB's exclusive plans.
"A Warner source said the studio is watching what happens now that Wal-Mart and other big retailers are selling entry-level Toshiba HD DVD players for less than $200, about half what the cheapest Blu-ray player costs. If there is a significant spike in HD DVD software sales, the studio may cast its lot with that format, whereas if there is no real impact, Warner may go Blu-ray only." http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...2bb7aed90a45d6 However, with this news, I think my HD-DVD purchasing will drop almost entirely until this plays out. I'm not balanced in HD vs. BD anyway, and I wanted to be to hedge my bets. |
Originally Posted by Drexl
I think it's different for video though. There are different decoders, and some post-processing going on. Remember how the early Samsung player had an incorrect setting for its denoise chip?
I'm still unclear how the Panasonic can provide a "clearly sharper" image than the Sony player though since they are both 1920x1080p. Like you said, perhaps there is some processing between reading the data from the disc to generating the video that can introduce digital artifacts? |
Originally Posted by DVD Josh
Well, I tell you what. This is HD-DVDs last chance. They are doing right in the hardware department. Now it's time to get prime EXCLUSIVE titles in stores on HD-DVD, and get prices on catalog titles way down ($9.99 would be a good start).
However, with this news, I think my HD-DVD purchasing will drop almost entirely until this plays out. I'm not balanced in HD vs. BD anyway, and I wanted to be to hedge my bets. If there is a large spike in HD DVD media sales running up to Christmas, a large portion of those sales are going to have to come from already released exclusive titles. I don't think that's impossible though. People buying a cheap HD DVD player during holiday shopping will almost certainly buy stuff like Planet Earth, The Matrix set, and certainly the HP movies (once they're out). |
Originally Posted by bunkaroo
The problem is, Paramount is pretty much letting HD DVD down for the final 6 weeks of 2007, and Uni really only has Bourne Ultimatum left as a big exclusive in 2007. I don't count Star Trek as no casual adopter is going to shell out for that IMO.
If there is a large spike in HD DVD media sales running up to Christmas, a large portion of those sales are going to have to come from already released exclusive titles. I don't think that's impossible though. People buying a cheap HD DVD player during holiday shopping will almost certainly buy stuff like Planet Earth, The Matrix set, and certainly the HP movies (once they're out). The real question is will we see a BD player for under 300 for the holidays. |
Originally Posted by PerryD
Good point, I had forgotten about the first gen Samsung player that Sony threw under the bus for the poor picture quality of Fifth Element and House of Flying Daggers. Was it proven that the Samsung was defective?
I'm still unclear how the Panasonic can provide a "clearly sharper" image than the Sony player though since they are both 1920x1080p. Like you said, perhaps there is some processing between reading the data from the disc to generating the video that can introduce digital artifacts? |
Originally Posted by tonymontana313
The real question is will we see a BD player for under 300 for the holidays.
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Fox Issues Final Specs, Street Date for 'Sunshine' Blu-ray Wed Oct 31, 2007 at 03:30 PM ET Fox's most technologically-advanced next-gen title ever is touching down on Blu-ray this January. As we first reported yesterday, Fox announced that it was planning to bring 'Sunshine' to Blu-ray sometime in Q1, featuring the format's first Profile 1.1-ready picture-in-picture commentary and a host of other cutting-edge features. They've now issued full details and a street date for the eagerly-awaited title, which will hit Blu-ray on January 8, 2008, day-and-date with the standard-def DVD. In what the studio is dubbing "Enhanced Viewing Mode," the Blu-ray disc's picture-in-picture feature will make full use of the secondary video decoding capabilities of Profile 1.1-compliant Blu-ray players. Furthermore, the disc will also be the first to utilize Profile 1.1's live audio mixing abilities as well, with a "Surround Sound Mixer" feature that allows users to switch sound sources between main and secondary windows and "remix the audio of a scene from the movie. (Note that we've received confirmation from Fox that the disc will be fully playable even in non-Profile 1.1-compliant Blu-ray players. The video portion of the "Enhanced Viewing Mode" will be viewable in a full-screen mode at standard DVD resolution (480p) only, while the "Surround Sound Mixer" feature will not be functional.) Extras identical to the Blu-ray and standard DVD versions include an audio commentary with director Danny Boyle, a collection of 21 video diaries with introduction by Boyle, 12 deleted scenes, an alternate ending, two short films, and the original theatrical trailer. Tech specs for the BD-50 dual-layer disc include 1080p/AVC MPEG-4 video and the studio's usual English DTS-HD Lossless Master Audio 5.1 Surround track. Fox has set a suggested retail price of $39.98. |
What kind of corporate speak is this?
(Note that we've received confirmation from Fox that the disc will be fully playable even in non-Profile 1.1-compliant Blu-ray players. The video portion of the "Enhanced Viewing Mode" will be viewable in a full-screen mode at standard DVD resolution (480p) only, while the "Surround Sound Mixer" feature will not be functional.) |
Originally Posted by Patman
They should price it at $300 and package it with the "300" Blu-ray disc, too.
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I was at best buy today and there were twice as many BD's as HD-DVD... before, I was planning on going format neutral and even bought a couple HD-discs the other day, but now I'm having second thoughts and might just stick with BD
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Originally Posted by chanster
So some things will not be functional yet the disc will "be fully playable" Can you explain how fully playable disc cannot do a feature???
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Originally Posted by chanster
What kind of corporate speak is this?
So some things will not be functional yet the disc will "be fully playable" Can you explain how fully playable disc cannot do a feature??? I'm sure the implication is the feature will be fully playable. |
Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
Here's some follow up about possible change for Warners Bros. in '08. Sounds like Q4 is going to determine WB's exclusive plans.
"A Warner source said the studio is watching what happens now that Wal-Mart and other big retailers are selling entry-level Toshiba HD DVD players for less than $200, about half what the cheapest Blu-ray player costs. If there is a significant spike in HD DVD software sales, the studio may cast its lot with that format, whereas if there is no real impact, Warner may go Blu-ray only." http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...2bb7aed90a45d6 |
Fox Plans Blu-ray Bow For 'Wall Street' Wed Oct 31, 2007 at 11:00 AM ET Fox has issued a retail announcement that Oliver Stone's Oscar-winning classic 'Wall Street' is headed to Blu-ray this February. One of the most oft-quoted films of the '80s ("Greed is good!"), 'Wall Street' grossed nearly $50 million at the domestic box office back in 1987 (when movie tickets still cost $4 a pop) and earned star Michael Douglas an Oscar for Best Actor, making it one of Stone's biggest critical and commercial hits. Hot on the heels of a recent '20th Anniversary Edition' DVD, Fox has just alerted retailers that it's planning to bring the flick to Blu-ray on February 5, 2008. At press time, only tech specs were available, including Fox's usual 1080p video and an English DTS-HD Lossless Master Audio 5.1 Surround track. The studio has set a suggested retail price of $39.98. |
Originally Posted by bunkaroo
Keep in mind those are HDD's words, not Fox's. He's not quoting them word for word.
I'm sure the implication is the feature will be fully playable. Ciao, Pro-B |
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