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joe-dvd-man2 10-16-07 09:42 AM

Blu-ray or HD DVD - need to decide asap!
 
I have about 500 dvds in my collection, and I'm going to make the switch to one of the high def formats. I really don't care about the tech stuff, because I've seen both and they both look/feel the same. I just don't want to get stuck buying 50 new discs for a format that gets abandoned.

I've been checking a site eProductWars daily, and though blu-ray is still in the lead, it definitely doesn't feel like who is going to win is close to being decided. I also look at the top sellers for hd-dvd, and I'm psyched about transformers, but I don't want a relatively small thing to overly influence my decision.

So my question is - help!

Joe

mzupeman2 10-16-07 09:57 AM

It sounds like you're looking for an answer as to which is the safer buy, aka, which one will probably survive.

There's an HD thread in here already, and even an HD forum.

BUT, it all boils down to what you want to spend. If money may be a deciding factor, then HD-DVD, if not, then it's all up in the air. The next thing to consider if money isn't the factor, is basically what titles you may want on one side over the other, based on what's already released and what may come in the future. Nobody can answer those things for you, but you.

canaryfarmer 10-16-07 10:21 AM

Go with the format that has the most movies you enjoy. Neither side is going to back down any time soon.

madcougar 10-16-07 10:30 AM

Feel the same?

mdc3000 10-16-07 10:33 AM

Yeah, I consider both to be on equal footing at this point and love them both... check out what's out on HD and Blu-ray and look at the holiday schedule and pick one - then enjoy movies and don't worry 'who wins'...regardless you'll always have some good looking HD movies.

DVD Josh 10-16-07 10:34 AM

Your chances of buying 50 discs for a format that will be abandoned is equally good for both.

Peep 10-16-07 11:17 AM

Blu-ray.

JLBkret 10-16-07 11:20 AM

In my opinion if you can afford the price purchase the combo unit that plays both HD-DVD and the Blue Rays. That way you can play both of them, also many movies are only on one format, so this way you can buy the movies you want. I do believe the combo units are under $1000 now.

baracine 10-16-07 11:34 AM

Read this essay - if you have time of course: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/articl...ray-hd-dvd.htm

The Bus 10-16-07 12:29 PM

I would pick HD DVD simply because the hardware is cheaper. You can get a very good player for $200 or spend more if you want a better one. In time, you will want to get a BD player as well.

I would NOT get a combo player. As of right now, there is no "true" combo player that is future-proof, that is, that plays HD DVD and BD to spec.

As far as BD players, my understanding is that the PS3 is still the best option. A $400 version of the machine will be released in November.

For $600, you can play both formats. That's pretty good in my book. :up:

canaryfarmer 10-16-07 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by The Bus
For $600, you can play both formats. That's pretty good in my book. :up:

Considering I can play all dvds from all regions on my Philips player (which cost me $50), that price is actually a huge block to my upgrading to HD formats. That's a lot of money. Plus, I don't have room for two separate HD players, my cable box, my tivo and my wii.

tylergfoster 10-16-07 01:56 PM

Blu Ray. You could also go to Best Buy and get credit/6m financing and get both.

Steve Phillips 10-16-07 02:02 PM

The second gen LG combo player and Samsung's combo player are both being touted as fully compliant with all capabilities of the HD DVD and Blu-ray formats. Of course, neither one is out RIGHT NOW, but both are due within a few weeks. Of course until they actually street there is a possibility of more delays. Crutchfield's latest catalog has the Samsung Combo player listed for $799.

If you haven't already bought a player in one format or the other, you could wait a little longer, read some reviews on the combo units and see what you think. You know more combo units are coming later as well.

HD-DVD players wilth excellent upscaling and what, 9 free movies? for $200 are a pretty safe bet though.

SasquatchHunter 10-16-07 04:53 PM

my best advice as someone who personally bought in to the hi-def formats way too soon is to just wait it out for a winner. Not a format that is currently winning in sales but I mean the other format is totally dead and gone and one of the formats starts to become WAY more mainstream than it currently is.

I beg you just to wait. Save your money and just buy sdvd movies for another couple years. i wish I hadn't bought into hi-def yet. The whole thing is a mess and very frustrating.

mdc3000 10-16-07 05:03 PM

^while rational, I have to say that's terrible advice and won't help the situation at all... I can never go back to SD....

Hank1215 10-16-07 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by mdc3000
^while rational, I have to say that's terrible advice and won't help the situation at all... I can never go back to SD....

That means there there will be an enormous amount of movies you will never be able to view then. Lots of movies being released on DVD now, will never see an HD release. Heck, look at how may VHS movies that hasn't made it to DVD!

kefrank 10-16-07 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by Steve Phillips
The second gen LG combo player and Samsung's combo player are both being touted as fully compliant with all capabilities of the HD DVD and Blu-ray formats. Of course, neither one is out RIGHT NOW, but both are due within a few weeks.

according to a few different people at AVS, the LG BH200 has been spotted at some Best Buys this week.

TheMovieman 10-16-07 05:23 PM

I decided that when I get into the HD game, I'm going with both formats. I'm going to buy the A2 or A3 HD-DVD player for $200-300 and then get a PS3 for $500 and have both formats, that is unless one of the combo players will be less than $800 (I've seen them around $1000).

Big Worms 10-16-07 05:39 PM

Start with HD-DVD player. Within a few months you will end up picking up a Blu-Ray player.

PhantomStranger 10-16-07 06:05 PM

My honest answer is that you're not gonna get an accurate view of the hi-def format war by asking this question here or really anywhere on the internet. Going by the polls conducted in the Hi-Def section of this site you're going to get a heavily biased answer in favor of HD-DVD. There are simply more hardcore supporters of HD-DVD in this particular forum.

Many will attempt to sway you to one side or the other but remember that it's in the interest of people already psychologically or financially invested in one format to push that format over the other. I myself have decided to commit to Blu-ray exclusively because I believe it to be the superior format for high definition content. The market will not support two dualing formats in the long run and the people that buy into the losing format will have buyer's remorse. Read all you can about the advantages and disadvantages of each format and be leary of spin from both sides.

bboisvert 10-16-07 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by DVD Josh
Your chances of buying 50 discs for a format that will be abandoned is equally good for both.

This is the correct answer. Anyone who tries to "crystal ball" this answer is guessing at best.

All hyperbole aside, both formats produce virtually identical picture/sound quality. Both have nearly an identical number of titles released... and nearly an identical number of titles exclusive to the format.

HD DVD players are cheaper. Blu-ray is currently selling slightly better (roughly a 60/40 ratio).


Everything else is spin. No one can predict which format will "win". It's a crapshoot at this point and entirely possible that neither wins and they both find a niche of their own. There's unfortunately no easy answer to your question. I'd say to go with HD DVD, but that's simply because (a) it has a much cheaper entry level cost and (b) my own personally biases and preferences for that format.

zombiezilla 10-16-07 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by canaryfarmer
Go with the format that has the most movies you enjoy. Neither side is going to back down any time soon.

Yeah, so fuck the "format war". "The format that has the most movies you enjoy" will always be (drumroll please) ...STANDARD DVD.

canaryfarmer 10-16-07 08:38 PM

Interesting interpretation of what I said. I didn't mean it that way, but I agree completely!

shyguy1083 10-16-07 10:13 PM

I would go with Blu-Ray, but I think the best wasy to decide might be to spend the time looking at your movie collection. Break down the movies into studios that are exclusive to one format. You might see a trend as to what studio's movies you purchase the most of. Then again, you might not. But if you DO see a trend, it might make the decision to go to one format easier because you'll know the majority of movies you like are in/will be in that format.

Zodiac_Speaking 10-16-07 10:27 PM

I'm in the same boat, OP. I have decided to get a Sony S300 Blu Ray. Why? Well, have the backing of some major studios that I like, as in LGF, Anchor Bay, DISNEY, and I seem to think those are exclusive and having just Uni and Paramount isn't that big of a deal.

Both are offering plenty of free movies and worse comes to pass, there's always a dual player or trading them in and buying into the other.

But I don't think that will be an option. I firmly believe BR will succeed due to numerous factors like studios, options, and titles, I'm going to be happy to buy a Hi Def player.

Kocheese99 10-16-07 10:52 PM


Originally Posted by Zodiac_Speaking
I'm in the same boat, OP. I have decided to get a Sony S300 Blu Ray. Why? Well, have the backing of some major studios that I like, as in LGF, Anchor Bay, DISNEY, and I seem to think those are exclusive and having just Uni and Paramount isn't that big of a deal.

Both are offering plenty of free movies and worse comes to pass, there's always a dual player or trading them in and buying into the other.

But I don't think that will be an option. I firmly believe BR will succeed due to numerous factors like studios, options, and titles, I'm going to be happy to buy a Hi Def player.

I'd hold off on buying Blu-Ray until you can get a 2.0 profile machine. If you enjoy extras and bonus features then 1.0 machines will be worthless except for a ps3.

Zodiac_Speaking 10-16-07 11:43 PM


Originally Posted by Kocheese99
I'd hold off on buying Blu-Ray until you can get a 2.0 profile machine. If you enjoy extras and bonus features then 1.0 machines will be worthless except for a ps3.

Really? I haven't heard about this. Is the new Sony S-500 player 2.0?

Gerry P. 10-17-07 12:43 AM

If you're worried about one format going belly-up, then you might want to hold off for a year.

DeputyDave 10-17-07 03:17 AM

I think after Christmas the picture may be much clearer. I'm picking up a 1080p TV this month but will be waiting unti January to pick a format.

I'm not saying the "war" will be decided this holiday season, but I predict one will outshine the other in sales, causing more people and companies to jump on the winning bandwagon.

slop101 10-17-07 10:36 AM

I looked at it personally and went with the one that has the most exclusive titles that I like, which happened to be HD-dvd.

Class316 10-17-07 11:51 AM

Wait for a PC drive that plays both.

Best solution.

Peep 10-17-07 11:59 AM

WIth all the buy-1-get-1-free sales going on now for exclusive Sony and Disney Blu-rays, you'd be silly not to start buying them now.

bookcase3 10-17-07 12:10 PM

I just read CNET's take on HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray and they recommend neither at this point in time. In short: "On the face of it, it's a split decision: HD DVD for price-conscious early adopters aware of the caveats; Blu-ray for PS3 gamers who want a "free" next-gen gaming system too. But we're sitting this one out for now--and we suggest that most HDTV owners do, too."

IamLegend 10-17-07 12:24 PM

I bought a Toshiba HD on Amazon for $299 with the free movie deal(too bad I missed out on the lower prices). I am slowly selling my SD collection and "renting HD" movies on netflix along with SD movies. By the time I upgrade my 720P tv ,receiver and have sold much of my SDs-I will think things will be clearer. I'd go HD for now because you will get your feet wet with HD at little cost and see how much you like the format and enjoy your upscaled Sds for now. Meanwhile prices on Hi DEf will go down and technology will improve and maybe one format will emerge.

JimRochester 10-17-07 03:33 PM

I jumped in to Blu Ray only because I wanted one and I heard Blockbuster was going to stock BluRay so that's the way I went. Under retail conditions I haven't seen a difference in side by side demonstrations. I'm not too worried about adopting the "wrong" format. Whatever I buy will last x number of years and chances are something new will be along by then anyway.

tonyjg 10-17-07 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by joe-dvd-man2
...... but I don't want a relatively small thing to overly influence my decision.

So my question is - help!

Joe

whats the rush ??

reading all the comments about the HD 'war' its almost like a case of 'penis envy' : my one's bigger than yours - we've got more than you - mine's gonna last longer.

can't see how your 'relatively small thing' fits in now :) :) lol

megashock5 10-18-07 08:34 AM

Having finally purchased my first HD set this year, I'd love to jump into a higher resolution format - but I just can't see making the investment until there's a clear leader, and I don't want to have two machines just to cover all the studios.

I still can't believe the parties involved couldn't come to a single standard format. Hopefully dual-players will start becoming reasonably priced over the next year or so.

aeron 10-18-07 10:00 AM

I still think Blu-ray will ultimately win the battle, but that may be a while off. There are even some predictions that both will survive...But, as long as both formats will be around a while, I agree with the users who say go with the format that has more titles you like...

For me, I went Blu-ray initially (via PS3) because there were more supporting major studios and because I wanted the gaming machine. Now, things have evened out a little more with Paramount/Dreamworks jumping to HD-DVD exclusive, and the battle has been prolonged. With no end in sight, I just dropped the dough to get an HD-DVD player this week...

Of course, if possible, you might want to wait until holiday sales! :-) But look at the titles available and upcoming titles. Also, note that HD-DVDs are region-free and there are quite a few imports available (more so than BR, I believe). They're expensive, but if you want titles like Equilibirum or the Island in high-def, that's the only way right now...

Lateralus 10-18-07 10:00 AM

*sigh* I'm still using DIVX.

chanster 10-18-07 10:12 AM

I prefer HD DVD right now, but if (and when) Blu Ray comes down in price, I would consider picking one up. Sony is keeping the prices of these drives artificially high...because..thats what Sony does. Fox is doing a good job of releasing catalog titles at $40 MSRP which is just ridiculous to me.


Right now, most of my collection is SD DVD and honestly I won't be upgrading a lot of titles. I did upgrade Top Gun because its one of my favorites, but everything else is optional. I picked up Transformers and Planet Earth, but I am renting the rest of new titles.

I got the A2 for the $190ish price + 3 free movies + 5 mail in movies..sold the 3 free movies to drop my cost down to about $145...and returned my upconverting Sony to Costco...so there was little upgrade cost to me.


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