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Jericho 09-18-07 04:51 PM

Jack Ryan HD DVD Set - Cancelled?
 
Got a notice today from DVDEmpire cancelling Jack Ryan HD DVD from my order (and it's no longer on their site). This only a few days after they dumped Master and Commander Blu Ray from my order. And ironically, I was using Jack Ryan HD to replace my cancelled order from Face/Off and Top Gun Blu Rays. It seems I can't win with them!

This is the first I heard of anything along the lines of Jack Ryan being cancelled. DVDEmpire ususally seems accurate, but are their correct here?

Adam Tyner 09-18-07 04:57 PM

For what it's worth, DVD Talk has received review copies of Paramount's titles fairly far into the future, but this is the only one we're missing.

mdc3000 09-18-07 04:57 PM

Don't like the sounds of this...damn it!

Hammer99 09-18-07 05:03 PM

This sucks.

buckee1 09-18-07 07:45 PM

Amazon still has the HD DVD set listed but the Blu Ray Set is gone.

twikoff 09-18-07 08:18 PM

i heard once that clancy's ex wife got a deal in the divorce that she gets a large share of all future jack ryan money..
If thats true.. we probably cant expect much more jack ryan content

E Unit 09-18-07 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by twikoff
i heard once that clancy's ex wife got a deal in the divorce that she gets a large share of all future jack ryan money..
If thats true.. we probably cant expect much more jack ryan content

Take it with a grain of salt, but on this past Sunday's Parade on the celebrity gossip section, the columnist states that there is another Jack Ryan novel in the works. I'm a great fan of the novels, so any hope of a new Jack Ryan adventure would be great.

bunkaroo 09-18-07 08:56 PM

I've been passing up the opportunity to record the HDnet Hunt For Red October because of this set. Guess it's time to record it after all.

Kocheese99 09-18-07 10:46 PM

As of today its still showing as being available from my distributors, but if it changes i'll pass it on. Big bummer if they delay it, as i'm really looking forward to most of these.

dizzlle01 09-18-07 10:57 PM

Maybe Paramount announcing they are backing out from HD media for now. -wink-

bunkaroo 09-19-07 07:14 AM

The only good thing that could come out of this is Paramount opting for separate releases instead.

Don't really need Sum of All fears myself. ;)

bee_01 09-19-07 01:23 PM

Looks like Paramount is taking a hint from Fox on how to play the exclusive studio role.

Shannon Nutt 09-20-07 12:27 PM

Someone made an entry mistake and removed the HD DVD accidently from our system. Unfortunately, we didn't catch the error until after our system cancelled prebooks and notified customers.

That being said, I'm happy to inform everyone that this title WILL be coming out on HD DVD and we'll have it back online shortly (before the end of today).

We're in the process of informing those prebook customers that the title is once again available.

On behalf of DVD Empire, I apologize for the error.

Shannon T. Nutt
Editorial Director

bunkaroo 09-20-07 12:57 PM

Whew! Close one!

Thanks for the info.

JackBurton 09-20-07 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
I'm happy to inform everyone that this title WILL be coming out on HD DVD and we'll have it back online shortly (before the end of today).

:up: Thanks!

mdc3000 09-20-07 01:31 PM

For a minute there I thought this was going to be a bigger debacle from Paramount than The Sum of All Fears :)

Hammer99 09-20-07 01:55 PM

Good deal, thanks!

SeanValen 09-20-07 07:02 PM

Good news, excellent.

PGHFlyer 09-20-07 07:06 PM

FYE has it for about $53 at pre-order (after $10 rebate). Not good w/ PayPal deal, but a nice price.

http://www.fye.com/The-Jack-Ryan-Col...VVviewprod.htm

Shannon Nutt 10-17-07 06:41 PM

Major Warning about this set, friends:

Although the box covers still list all the bonus features, all four movies are totally DEVOID of bonus material...no commentaries, no featurettes...just an audio set-up and chapter selection.

I've (and other sites as well) contacted Paramount - the first reply said that only screener copies sent out to reviewers were like this and were checking the retail copies - but several other sites have reported that retailers have checked their copies and found the same problem.

So if you're looking to buy this set for the bonus material - be forewarned!

The Dolby TrueHD tracks ARE on all four movies, along with Dolby Digital Plus - but otherwise these discs look just like TOP GUN in terms of menus (none, just a pull-up on the bottom of the screen) and extras.

Drexl 10-17-07 07:45 PM

Crap, there must have been some regime change over there that dictates the holding back of extras.

PGHFlyer 10-17-07 09:20 PM

They can go ahead and cancel as far as I am concerned if they are dropping the extras.

Hammer99 10-17-07 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
Major Warning about this set, friends:

Although the box covers still list all the bonus features, all four movies are totally DEVOID of bonus material...no commentaries, no featurettes...just an audio set-up and chapter selection.

I've (and other sites as well) contacted Paramount - the first reply said that only screener copies sent out to reviewers were like this and were checking the retail copies - but several other sites have reported that retailers have checked their copies and found the same problem.

So if you're looking to buy this set for the bonus material - be forewarned!

The Dolby TrueHD tracks ARE on all four movies, along with Dolby Digital Plus - but otherwise these discs look just like TOP GUN in terms of menus (none, just a pull-up on the bottom of the screen) and extras.

What do the backs of the individual cases say? Just curious... no big deal to me either way, I'll probably just throw the box away.

RocShemp 10-17-07 09:25 PM

I guess I'll be holding out then. :(

big e 10-17-07 10:03 PM

Ahh crap, looks like I'll be holding out too. I hope this doesn't become a trend for Paramount.

Wolf359 10-17-07 11:10 PM

:mad:

Dammit, I've been wanting these.



Sad part is, I'll probably still buy them.

RocShemp 10-17-07 11:24 PM

Unless I find them dirt cheap, I won't.

naitram 10-17-07 11:32 PM

I only want Hunt for Red October, so hopefully that sees an individual release soon.

Davy Mack 10-18-07 04:37 AM

me too

Shannon Nutt 10-18-07 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by Hammer99
What do the backs of the individual cases say? Just curious... no big deal to me either way, I'll probably just throw the box away.

For the record, here's the info on the back of the boxes:

HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER
Commentary by Director John McTiernan
Beneath The Surface - Cast & Crew Interviews
Theatrical Trailer

PATRIOT GAMES
Patriot Games Up Close - Cast & Crew Interviews
Theatrical Trailer

CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER
Behind The Danger - Cast & Crew Interviews
Theatrical Trailer

THE SUM OF ALL FEARS
Commentary by the Director and Cinematographer
Commentary by the Director and Novelist
The Making of The Sum Of All Fears
Creating Reality: The Visual Effects of The Sum Of All Fears
Theatrical Trailer

Again, NONE of the above are on these HD DVDs. :(

Mr. Cinema 10-18-07 08:05 AM

I believe Top Gun was originally supposed to have all the features from the dvd set, but those were scrapped before the release. I'm guessing the same thing happened here and they forgot to correct the packaging. I hope this isn't a trend with Paramount catalog titles.

Shannon Nutt 10-18-07 08:13 AM

Just got word...Paramount is RECALLING the set. So once again, release date TBA. But at least they're going to correct it. :)

We won't be shipping any of ours...but if you already got yours or if yours already shipped, the best thing is to contact your e-tailer about the return process.

Doughboy 10-18-07 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
Just got word...Paramount is RECALLING the set. So once again, release date TBA. But at least they're going to correct it. :)

We won't be shipping any of ours...but if you already got yours or if yours already shipped, the best thing is to contact your e-tailer about the return process.

That's good to hear. I had canceled my order anyway, so I'll gladly wait for them to correct this.

I just hope Top Gun is an isolated incident.

Hammer99 10-18-07 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
For the record, here's the info on the back of the boxes:
<snip>

Again, NONE of the above are on these HD DVDs. :(

Thanks... well I don't care about any of them, but that is pretty tacky. Thanks for the recall info, too. :mad2:

Arpeggi 10-18-07 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
Just got word...Paramount is RECALLING the set. So once again, release date TBA. But at least they're going to correct it. :)

We won't be shipping any of ours...but if you already got yours or if yours already shipped, the best thing is to contact your e-tailer about the return process.

Or sell it on ebay for profits!

Shannon Nutt 10-18-07 08:21 AM

UPDATE:
Here's the official release from Paramount...the way this is worded they MAY only be recalling them to correct the covers, and NOT the HD DVDs themselves...


Please be advised that there are typographical errors on the packaging for the Jack Ryan Special Collector's Edition HD-DVD. The packaging inadvertently notes special features that are not on the HD-DVD.

As a result, this product is being recalled and street date is being delayed. We ask that you do not sell or rent this product to consumers and that you stop shipments to additional destinations. A Paramount Home Entertainment Representative will contact you with an RA number to facilitate sending the product back to Paramount Home Entertainment's manufacturing facility. Returned product should include any unit previously shipped to retailers or other destinations as well as your on-hand inventory.

We will provide further information on the availability of new product shortly.

Should you have any further questions, please contact a Paramount Home Entertainment Representative.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you.
I contacted Paramount to let them know the general concensus among HD DVD owners is that we'd rather wait for Paramount to "get it right" than for them to simply correct the box covers and release these movies bare-bones. We'll have to wait and see what they do....

mdc3000 10-18-07 09:40 AM

If they do just redo the covers and go 'bare bones' I hope they lower the MSRP....

stingermck 10-18-07 11:20 AM

Yeah, I'll take bare bones, with a lower MSRP

Artman 10-18-07 11:32 AM

Everyone loses if Paramount starts dropping the ball (as it appears they have). Less incentive for folks like me to jump into HD-DVD.... higher probability that if and when Paramount goes back to nuetral these are what will be slapped onto BD discs... and lower HD sales all around due to fans avoiding barebones releases.

tofferman 10-18-07 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
Just got word...Paramount is RECALLING the set. So once again, release date TBA. But at least they're going to correct it. :)

We won't be shipping any of ours...but if you already got yours or if yours already shipped, the best thing is to contact your e-tailer about the return process.

It's hard to believe that the QC people at Paramount actually assumed the content was on the HD-DVD's by simply looking at the back of the boxes. You would think they would actually "check" the discs first. Unbelievable.


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