General HD DVD news and discussion PART 2
01-28-08 | 03:01 PM
#676
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
I imagine the price drops have helped. The only reason the majority of Blu-ray players were "sold" in the past few weeks was because they were given away. Once these promotions stop (and they will, much like the BOGOs have from the BDA), you will have HD DVD at $150 and Blu-ray at $400.
I don't tend to look at SA sales as a zero-sum game. One side's numbers going up doesn't necessarily explain why the other side's numbers are going down.
01-28-08 | 03:03 PM
#677
Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
I believe RDJAM is who you were thinking of. He was the HD DVD evangelist on AVS. After the WB announcement, he doesn't post much there anymore. I think I know who's taken over for him over there.
I don't visit there that often, but I remember seeing some guy that linked an HD DVD website a while back. I don't know why I thought it was Kosty. Hopefully I didn't offend anyone.
01-28-08 | 03:03 PM
#678
Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
He hasn't posted in a while on AVS. I think he still posts on HighDefDigest. AVS and HighDef have just become pissing sites now. Its fun to go in and stir the pot.
01-28-08 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
AVS has gone downhill lately. The censorship rules suck. Mods lock threads left and right and some just mysteriously vanish. They closed the insider's thread also.
If mods are starting to take action maybe it will be a civil place one day.
01-28-08 | 03:07 PM
#680
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
AVS has gone downhill lately. The censorship rules suck. Mods lock threads left and right and some just mysteriously vanish. They closed the insider's thread also.
01-28-08 | 03:09 PM
#681
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Why was the Insider thread closed? No explanation was even given.
01-28-08 | 03:10 PM
#682
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
I don't see any BD studios switching. WB is going to give them 70-75% of the market in June. Why would a BD studio make a move to PROLONG the war? Can you imagine how much more confusing this would be for those who are on the sidelines? You'd never be able to trust any studio from here on out. I think the media would tell everyone it's not worth the hassle anymore and just avoid HD altogether.
If any BD studios went red, and put the market back to 50-50 again, then HDM can kiss mass adoption good-bye, imo.
If any BD studios went red, and put the market back to 50-50 again, then HDM can kiss mass adoption good-bye, imo.
01-28-08 | 03:11 PM
#683
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Originally Posted by bunkaroo
The admin said it had "server its purpose" or outlived its usefulness or something like that. I was quite surprised.
01-28-08 | 03:12 PM
#684
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
I agree. And honestly, even if two of the current BD exclusive studios went neutral, it still wouldn't help HD. Toshiba would have to convince a studio that's currently Blu-ray exclusive to go HD DVD exclusive, and I just don't think that's going to happen.
01-28-08 | 03:15 PM
#685
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Meaning the Insiders went back to Blu-ray.com where the questions were easy and lined with "HD DUD". They didn't want to have real discussions.
Personally I'm glad his smug *** is mostly gone.
Regardless of format, the guy's posts just got on my nerves.
01-28-08 | 03:21 PM
#686
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Originally Posted by bunkaroo
I don't know, it seemed like Amir was the only one regularly holding court there.
Personally I'm glad his smug *** is mostly gone. Regardless of format, the guy's posts just got on my nerves.
Personally I'm glad his smug *** is mostly gone.
Regardless of format, the guy's posts just got on my nerves.
01-28-08 | 03:21 PM
#687
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
What if Toshiba got Disney. What would Warner do? Stay Blu-ray, go neutral, go HD DVD? I'm sure they signed an out-clause just like Paramount rumored to do as well.
01-28-08 | 03:33 PM
#688
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I'm not ashamed to admit that I want a quick end to the war. I bought into HD, still think it is the better choice, but just want it to be over.
HD is only going to stay a niche market anyway, but the only chance it has to break 5% of so market share is if we get down to just one format, imo.
HD is only going to stay a niche market anyway, but the only chance it has to break 5% of so market share is if we get down to just one format, imo.
Last edited by Trevor; 01-28-08 at 03:36 PM. Reason: forgot the "not"
01-28-08 | 04:04 PM
#689
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Amir was at least honest and posted the facts. The BR guys tend to put thigs in haiku's, riddles etc. They could say "Elmo was eating a cookie with Big Bird" and people would read 100 things into it...and they did
of all.As an HD DVD owner I hated the face he put on the format - the typical smug "We at Microsoft know everything" face. Ugh.
01-28-08 | 04:06 PM
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Why would Toshiba even want Disney after all the trash they've talked about hd-dvd? Heck, some people think Disney is more commited to BD than Sony Pictures so I hardly see them making any type of move.
01-28-08 | 04:10 PM
#691
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
What if Toshiba got Disney. What would Warner do? Stay Blu-ray, go neutral, go HD DVD? I'm sure they signed an out-clause just like Paramount rumored to do as well.
01-28-08 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
I think both sides are starting to realize that this war is just losing them money, and they want it over.
Hmmm . . . not according to Warner Bros. They routinely touted their neutrality as a terrific money-making position. No, their reason for going BD-exclusive was out of their deep concern for the consumers and retailers. Remember?
01-28-08 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Meaning the Insiders went back to Blu-ray.com where the questions were easy and lined with "HD DUD". They didn't want to have real discussions.
There are disingenuous comments and claims coming from both sides, in nearly equal volume.
01-28-08 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bunkaroo
I don't know, it seemed like Amir was the only one regularly holding court there.
Personally I'm glad his smug *** is mostly gone. Regardless of format, the guy's posts just got on my nerves.
Personally I'm glad his smug *** is mostly gone.
Regardless of format, the guy's posts just got on my nerves.
Two demotions and then 'retirement' from MS were exactly what he deserved for all the FUD he spread.
01-28-08 | 04:32 PM
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While I was out this morning, I heard a radio ad touting HD-DVD and Toshiba's low priced players starting at $149. They mentioned the 5 title mail in offer and the interesting thing is that they seemed to imply that it's good through 2/28. So I'm wondering if they're scramblining to get a new form out or updated or if that was an error and meant 1/31, when the current form expires.
01-28-08 | 05:47 PM
#697
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
I've spoken with Amir several times. He's a nice guy. It's sad that for some people, the format war is justification for wishing someone else ill.
Nice guy he may very well be, but he got carried away many times IMO.
01-28-08 | 06:01 PM
#699
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Originally Posted by Bob330i
While I was out this morning, I heard a radio ad touting HD-DVD and Toshiba's low priced players starting at $149. They mentioned the 5 title mail in offer and the interesting thing is that they seemed to imply that it's good through 2/28. So I'm wondering if they're scramblining to get a new form out or updated or if that was an error and meant 1/31, when the current form expires.
01-28-08 | 06:03 PM
#700
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Originally Posted by tonymontana313
Why would Toshiba even want Disney after all the trash they've talked about hd-dvd? Heck, some people think Disney is more commited to BD than Sony Pictures so I hardly see them making any type of move.