1000 percent. Oh, nice.

When a friend of mine bought his new DVD player, his movie collection also raised by 1000 percent. From 1 title to 10, that is.

ps3 barely has games... this might be the end of their gaming division... might i said peeps..

The PS3 is the sole reason Blu Ray is leading here in the U.S as well. It's no coincidence that disc sales were 2:1 in favor of HD DVD until the PS3 came out. Now it's the other way around, and has been for about half a year. Without the PS3, Blu Ray's probably in the crapper. With it, it remains the leader in the the format "war".

The article is unclear: is the 1000% in Europe, or worldwide?

Without it, there wouldn't have been a format war at all: Blu-ray owes most of its studio support solely to the PS3, and without the console, the format would never have made it into the U.S. market. I haven't kept a close eye on sales figures, but I believe Blu-ray standalones are doing about as well as HD DVD standalones, meaning that some of those pre-release fears may not have been entirely founded, but still, Blu-ray owes its existence as a pre-recorded media format to the PS3.

In the same arguement though, I'm sure the 360 add-on made a HUGE impact in HD-DVD sales. I own both machines (PS3 & add-on), but honestly, I MAY be just getting around to buying an HD player right around now if it weren't for the gaming machine players.

I got the 360 add-on right after it came out (early X-mas present). After watching HD movies, I felt left-out from some good HD titles that were only on Blu-Ray, so I figured 'What the Hell, why not?' and bought a PS3. When I bought the PS3, there weren't any games I wanted, but I figured I had a great BR player, and eventually some games will come out that I'll want. I still don't have any games, but I wouldn't give-up my PS3 for the world.

The long & short is, BOTH machines kept this new format going strong.

The big difference, IMO is that for a long time the PS3 was by far the cheapest entry point into BD, whereas the 360 add on required the ownership of a 360 to be able to use it. For those that owned a 360, it was a cheap entry point, but the stand alones were far cheaper overall than the combo purchase for HD DVD.

Even now, with BD decks a smidge cheaper than PS3, why not spend the extra dough and get the added functionality of the PS3 in addition to the BD playback? It is sort of a no-brainer.

So if the PS3 is being used as a Blu-Ray player, then they have a REALLY bad attach rate of .33 per player sold. Like Ive been saying for a long time, Blu-Ray is simply the UMD of the PS3. Once games come out, people will stop buying movies and focus on games.

I'm not so sure about that. I feel that may have been true IF they had some great launch titles because people may have just said "Screw buying BD discs, these games kick ass". But now, people have already been hooked with the power of BR, so I think they will maintain their interest. Once good games DO come out, new PS3 buyers may not delve into the BR market, but I don't see BR sales dropping from the people that already have the PS3.

In comparison, I doubt if the 360 game sales dropped because people bought the add-on.

A photo...from the UK.



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Exactly what is that a list of? Best sellers? or just their favorite releases thus far?

Best sellers TOP 30.

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And "The Thing" is outselling every other HD DVD title so far?? Where did they get these results?

Speedy has confirmed that starting next Sunday (7/15), Circuit City will have the PS3 60GB for $499.99. With E3 coming up, perhaps this is a hint that the $100 price drop rumor is legit.

$499 and 5 free movies? Wow.

As stated above, it's from the UK

I have a PS3 and it is only for BR. I have one game (Tony Hwak Project 8) because of the costco price screw up.

Long ago I predicted that the PS3 would suck for movie watching because Sony would be cutting the throats of Pioneer, etc. that agreed to make BR players. I was wrong....it is a good BR player and they are cutting the throats of their friends. I don't know why anyone would buy any other BR player.

I can definately see the PS3 making BR sell well. But given the money they make off of BR discs rather than games, and the hit they take for building PS3s, I think it might just make them lose money a little slower.

To keep things in perspective though, PS3 is getting murdered by Nintendo Wii, so it is floundering as a game system. The big question is how long Sony can afford to subsidize the PS3 just to sell as a BD deck.

It's an HMV chart. In other words, top-sellers at the HMV stores, which are kind of like Tower or Sam Goody stores in the US.

I think at least the last dozen or so times I've had the PS3 on its been to watch a movie, not to play a game. I bought it as a gaming machine, but there's no good games out so I started picking up BD movies instead.

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Here's my armchair analysis:

Sony's strategy was to popularize Blu-Ray by having "loyal" gamers shoulder the burden. When gamers got second jobs and lined up to buy PS3's, they'd take a Blu-Ray player home with them, and naturally that format would take hold.

Of course, that's not what happened. Gamers have more or less shunned the PS3. However, HD enthusiasts are purchasing the PS3 primarily as a BD player. Why not when you can play games, browse the web, etc on it too? In other words, just the opposite of what they expected...but the net result is the same and BD is starting to win the HD format wars.

As I predicted before, I believe the PS3 will be stronger than the Wii. Maybe not in total units sold, but I strongly believe the Wii will fade. They sold an ass-load of units already, so the machine definitely didn't flop, but I think the games aren't going to keep the system 'fresh'. The PS3 however, has nowhere to go but up. With a couple great games & some more Blu_ray exclusives, Sony can be right back in the hunt.

Look at the last gen's X-box. It started out very slow, but eventually developed a huge fan base, while the GameCube, which started out strong, seemed to lack towards the end of the generation. This is what I think the PS3 will do...take the road like the XBox did.

The Gamecube started out strong? I believe you need to rethink that. The Gamecube started out meh, and pretty much fizzled from there. And the Xbox never had a fan base to even come close to the PS2, and pretty much was even with GC at the end of its lifespan.

So, basically people too stupid to find retailers that don't charge MSRP?

The actual sales figures don't support your theory:



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Indeed, the Xbox was a financial loss for Microsoft. However, it set the stage for the 360 which has been a great success, so overall I would count it as a win.

At any rate, in the history of video game consoles nobody has ever gone from third to first. And I don't see that happening this generation either.