General Blu-ray news and discussion
03-25-07, 07:57 PM
#727
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Originally Posted by Bcolon
BIG difference between checking out a competitors booth at a trade show where all three parties are already in attendence and visiting a Blu Ray authoring facility on a special trip only for that purpose. I bet Toshiba has never been to a Blu Ray facility.
I see no problem with him reporting it. This IS news. He made it very clear that this info came from a friend. If he had any doubt to his friends validity, I don't believe he would have posted it.
Now, does this mean Universal is going neutral any time soon. No, but it does look like they are, at least, examing the possibility.
I see no problem with him reporting it. This IS news. He made it very clear that this info came from a friend. If he had any doubt to his friends validity, I don't believe he would have posted it.
Now, does this mean Universal is going neutral any time soon. No, but it does look like they are, at least, examing the possibility.
03-25-07, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DthRdrX
I usually believe about 0% of any statement that begins with, "I heard from a friend".
03-25-07, 10:17 PM
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I'm running into some problems with scratched Blu-ray rentals. I've rented about a dozen this month and 3 of them arrived with scratches. All of the scratches were fairly light, but 2 out of the 3 movies froze up part of the way through and completely hung up my PS3. It seems like the scratch resistant coating on these discs is not up to the job at least for a rental market.
Not only that, but it seems like one scratch is all it takes to ruin a BD disc. This is definitely an area of concern. You figure the rental market for these is light right now, but what happens if BD catches on and these discs get into heavy rotation. They will be chucking out a ton of discs.
Granted I have no idea how these scratches are occurring, but this is something to worry about. The durability of the coating they are using is heavily overrated.
Not only that, but it seems like one scratch is all it takes to ruin a BD disc. This is definitely an area of concern. You figure the rental market for these is light right now, but what happens if BD catches on and these discs get into heavy rotation. They will be chucking out a ton of discs.
Granted I have no idea how these scratches are occurring, but this is something to worry about. The durability of the coating they are using is heavily overrated.
03-25-07, 10:19 PM
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Unless the rental I get from Netflix is a brand new release, I see scratches and fingerprints. The Durabis isn't that great. Of course, I've read plenty of posts on "other" forums declaring Durabis is the greatest thing ever and how resistant it is to everything. Yeah, okay.
Having said that, my PS3 has played everything fine.
Darkside,
I've complained how my PS3 leaves markings on my discs before. That has started to clear up. It's not scratches, but it looks like some sort of debris coming from the filter in the slot. I'll see it now and again, but for the most part, my unit isn't leaving anything on the disc. But to take care of that, I did buy a microfiber cloth from Circuit City for about $6. It removes this stuff without leaving scratches. So, you could buy one of those and wipe it on the rental discs to see if that helps. I know it'll remove fingerprints, but I'm not sure about the scratches.
Having said that, my PS3 has played everything fine.
Darkside,
I've complained how my PS3 leaves markings on my discs before. That has started to clear up. It's not scratches, but it looks like some sort of debris coming from the filter in the slot. I'll see it now and again, but for the most part, my unit isn't leaving anything on the disc. But to take care of that, I did buy a microfiber cloth from Circuit City for about $6. It removes this stuff without leaving scratches. So, you could buy one of those and wipe it on the rental discs to see if that helps. I know it'll remove fingerprints, but I'm not sure about the scratches.
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03-25-07, 10:29 PM
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I tried that, but these were cut in the plastic. Not very deep and about what you would expect to see on just about any rental DVD.
Open Season had two small half inch scratches and were the lightest of the scratches just barely there. This disc played fine.
Superman II had three straight scratches about an inch long. A little bit deeper than the ones on Open Season. This disc froze up within 10 minutes. I had to eject the disc to get the PS3 to respond. I tried skipping past that part, but it froze again 5 minutes later. I had the network thing off so that wasn't the cause. Also this wasn't a skip the PS3 completely hangs until you eject the disc.
Ice Age had the worst scratch. It was like a little oval was scratched in the disc midway and was about as deep as the one on Superman II. This one froze up 20 minutes in to the movie and that freezing point was repeatable.
I don't know what coating they are using (I have read a couple of times that it is not Durabis II as that was too expensive) but the coating is just not going to cut it for rental discs if this format ever gets popular.
None of the scratches I had trouble with would have been considered bad on a standard DVD disc.
Open Season had two small half inch scratches and were the lightest of the scratches just barely there. This disc played fine.
Superman II had three straight scratches about an inch long. A little bit deeper than the ones on Open Season. This disc froze up within 10 minutes. I had to eject the disc to get the PS3 to respond. I tried skipping past that part, but it froze again 5 minutes later. I had the network thing off so that wasn't the cause. Also this wasn't a skip the PS3 completely hangs until you eject the disc.
Ice Age had the worst scratch. It was like a little oval was scratched in the disc midway and was about as deep as the one on Superman II. This one froze up 20 minutes in to the movie and that freezing point was repeatable.
I don't know what coating they are using (I have read a couple of times that it is not Durabis II as that was too expensive) but the coating is just not going to cut it for rental discs if this format ever gets popular.
None of the scratches I had trouble with would have been considered bad on a standard DVD disc.
03-26-07, 04:14 AM
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We got open season from netflix (BD) and it froze in the same place repeatedly. Disc was scratched (these effing' clueless netflix renters are now abusing the HD format discs too it seems...) It made the film skip 3 x but the PS3 handled it after about a 5 second freeze each time, no need to power off or reboot.
Enjoyable (if goofy) film with amazing PQ.
Enjoyable (if goofy) film with amazing PQ.
03-26-07, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Arpeggi
Bill C-unt should just shut up.
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03-26-07, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Bcolon
I see no problem with him reporting it. This IS news. He made it very clear that this info came from a friend. If he had any doubt to his friends validity, I don't believe he would have posted it.
03-26-07, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
I don't listen to much of what he says anymore, but he was right with that Universal list of HD DVD titles. I believe he posted about those first...
03-29-07, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by matome
Looks like they're gearing these up for worldwide release.
03-29-07, 07:35 PM
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The third season of FX's firefighter drama Rescue Me, starring Emmy and Golden Globe nominee Denis Leary, will become the Sony Pictures Home Entertainment's first TV release in the Blu-ray high-definition format. The four-disc set will sell for $79.95 versus $49.95 for the standard-definition version. It will include all of the extras present on the standard-def release -- but no more. There are no plans to release the first two seasons of the series in the high-definition format. SPHE marketing exec Marc Rashba told Home Media Retail magazine, "We're all working folks, and we're very mindful about asking [consumers] to put out more money for what they already have." The release date for the DVD set is June 3.
03-30-07, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Most people in the industry get/know things early. The Universal list was something was passed around to various places and could not be posted until a specified date. Bill decided to break that date. Now everything he says must be credible? Sorry, Universal was most likley NOT at the Blu-Ray facility. This is just Bill once again trying to get people to buy into HIS format of choice.
03-30-07, 03:06 PM
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Don't know if this has been mentioned, but here are the audio and subtitle options for Sony's BD release of Identity:
Audio:
Subtitle Options:
Granted, subtitle tracks don't take much disc space (meaning an HD DVD or DVD could easily do the same thing here) but this list is rather impressive.
Audio:
- English PCM 5.1 Surround (48kHz/16-Bit/4.6mbps)
- English Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround (640kbps)
- French PCM 5.1 Surround (48kHz/16-Bit/4.6mpbs)
- French Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround (640kbps)
- German PCM 5.1 Surround (48kHz/16-Bit/4.6mpbs)
- German Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround (640kbps)
- English DES (Descriptive Audio Track)
Subtitle Options:
- English SDH
- Greek Subtitles
- Hebrew Subtitles
- Swedish Subtitles
- Hindi Subtitles
- Turkish Subtitles
- English Subtitles
- Polish Subtitles
- Chinese Subtitles
- Hungarian Subtitles
- French Subtitles
- Portuguese Subtitles
- Spanish Subtitles
- Korean Subtitles
- Czech Subtitles
- Thai Subtitles
- Danish Subtitles
- Arabic Subtitles
- German Subtitles
- Dutch Subtitles
- Finnish Subtitles
- Norwegian Subtitles
Granted, subtitle tracks don't take much disc space (meaning an HD DVD or DVD could easily do the same thing here) but this list is rather impressive.
03-30-07, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Burnt Thru
if you're gonna sell discs in europe, and not insult a large chunk of your consumers, this is what you'll have to do.
03-30-07, 03:43 PM
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I noticed from HD Digest's raving review of Identity that Sony used AVC for the encode. I know they did for new releases like Casino Royale and Pursuit of Happyness, but is this the first one for an older catalog title? Layer Cake was a BD-50, but used MPEG2. I hope they've made a full commitment now to AVC.
03-30-07, 05:40 PM
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I sure hope Identity has the extras from the DVD. It's nice that they're going to AVC over MPEG-2, but then turning around and using up the saved space on dubbed PCM tracks is ridiculous if it means the extras have to be dropped.
