Yeah, I definitely figured out that the RBE is worse when there's bright colors on the screen, especially whites. As far as lighting goes, I took the rope light off the back of my old set, and this weekend I'm going mount it on the back of the new set to get some backlighting...only this time I need to figure out how to mount it without actually putting screws into the cabinet. I'll probably do something with velcro.

Its probably too late now but a good way to test for RBE is by popping in the VanHelsing DVD--the first 10 minutes or so are fast moving black & white scenes. Ive heard on some sets its practically unwatchable.

What about those Sony WEGA LCD DLP sets? I'm leaning towards one of those. I think they look great. A 50" can be had for under $2000.

There is no such thing as a "LCD DLP" set.

I have a 60" Sony grand WEGA III that I like. The new SRXD sets are quite impressive.

Just bought a Samsung HLS-5687. Awesome is all I can say!

Yeah, I think I'm starting to regret my choice in sets. I think I'm starting to see RBE in everything I look at now...outside the house!

Is it possible to upgrade a DLP set to eliminate this kind of thing, like getting a wheel with more colors, as opposed to a 3-color wheel? Actually, I'm not even sure which color wheel mine has, but based on the fact that I'm seeing RBE like I am, I'm guessing 3-color.

Sorry guys, but what the hell does RBE stand for? Anyone with a link to more information so I can read up on it?

I will be in the market for a new HDTV soon so I want to make sure I am well educated. In the meantime, here is a link I found interesting...

http://hometheatermag.com/hookmeup/0506halfrez/

It means "rainbow effect". Read all about it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DLP

Im actually pretty surprised you notice it. Ive heard people tout 'you'll never get RBE with modern color wheels'

I tend to get bad migranes from time to time. Im sure RBE would kill me if i'd of gotten a DLP.

The Infidel,

Thanks. That's what I get for not reading a flipping thing about TVs for the last six years.

Ferris,
Those were probably people who didn't see it in the first place. I had a 5x 6-color wheel front projector, still saw 'em.

Infidel,
It does get better with time as your brain adjusts. And not flicking your head/eyes around the room reduces them greatly. I'd give it as much time as possible (like whatever the exchange policy is), see how it goes.

Paul,
Good article about one of the dirty little secrets. Watch for that.

Thanks for the input. Like I said a few posts up, I still need to mess with the settings a little, and maybe get a little further into the DVE disc, this weekend. I'm also going to hook up that backlighting I mentioned and see what that does.

Hopefully everything will get better, since, if you read back on the first couple posts of mine in this thread, I don't believe there's going to be any more exchanges for me on this one.

People are still seeing RBE's on the Mitsubishi 6-color wheels. From what I've noticed, it seems the less you look around at the image (sometimes hard to do on a big screen), the less noticeable it will be.

You want to know something funny? Considering how much I wanted to avoid rear-projection, I never even realized until I started reading about RBE and looking into DLP a little more on other sites and such over the last day or so that I pretty well got myself a RP without even realizing it! Oh well.

I think the fact that the backside of the TV wasn't fully flat might have been the first clue.

Well, I actually didn't see the back of the set in the store. In BB's HDTV cubby-hole, it was actually perched on the upper tier. I think I was looking more for what I wanted the set to have, as opposed to what I didn't want. Even after it was delivered on Tuesday, I didn't put one and one together. I guess I thought deep down that the shape of the backside held a bunch of cool technology just waiting to astound me or something. RP never crossed my mind.

I don't really see why you felt the need to avoid rear-projection. CRT I can understand, because they just take up SO much space in the back, but DLP isn't so awful in the backside.

Space wasn't the thing. It's just a basic desire to be able to see the picture no matter where you may be in the room, as opposed to needing to be right in front of it, or at least within a certain range from the front. It's also probably being so used to having owned so many regular sets over the years, including the one I just got rid of. I sacrificed a smaller, but definitely clearer picture I could see from any angle for a larger, not-as-clear picture I have to be right in front of...and flashes of blue, red and green.

Life goes on.

I'm looking for a new TV for my bedroom. I'm trying to stay under $2,000. DLP has some awesome deals, but the more I look at them, the more I miss the vibrant colors that CRT has. LCD isn't even an option (I can't stand the "blacks" and the motion blur), and LCOS gives me those wonderful green blobs. Plasma looks good to my eyes, but the costs can be insane. I would love to have a great 42" 1080p CRT, but those basically seem to be non-existant. There is a Sony 34" CRT that looks good, but at 34" you're not going to see much of the advantages that HD offers. It's all very annoying. If space weren't an issue, I'd just buy another 55" Mitsubishi CRT from last year for under $1,500 and use it for 10 years or more.

I would have easily recommended my old set to you, if you could find one now, since I doubt they make them anymore. The biggest drawback to it was that it was one heavy sonofabitch. Plus it was a tube set, so I would have hoped you have a big bedroom, as it was fairly deep.

Yeah, the great thing about our current bedroom is that there is a huge alcove that is perfect for a big widescreen CRT. And I love the Mitsubishi we have. Best TV I've ever owned. I just doubt the next house we move into will have anything like that. I think what I may have to do is after we move, go to Magnolia and then see if they have any deals on smaller CRTs or Plasmas.

Edit: On the other hand, I've already got a Mitsubishi credit card and right now they're making only DLPs. Granted, they're some of the best DLP's on the market, but, gah, I don't know. I think maybe WhoGirl and I just need to go to Magnolia here, mess around with the settings on a few of the TVs, and decide what we both think is the best overall decision. After all, why should I be the only one to agonize so?

Taking Who shopping! Why didn't I think of that?

I think that was part of my problem. I didn't have my roommate with me at BB when I went to pick out the new set, like we had planned. He doesn't really know any more about the technology than I do (in fact, probably less), but I think having someone there with me would have been a sort-of "voice of reason" for any little decisions I may have wanted to avoid.

Reading through AVS, I may have found the set for me: Philips 42PF9630A, a plasma set. Almost everyone on AVS is loving it. I went to Cnet and the professional review was disappointed, but a large majority of their readers gave it very high marks. It's got two HDMI inputs plus a host of other options and something called Ambilight which sounds like it's comparable to Mitsubishi's Dark Detailer. It even has USB inputs so you can upgrade the version software without having a technician come out. It's a little over $2,000, but I figure with good negotiating skills and some good financing options, that shouldn't be too much of a problem. Now all I need to do is go take a look at it. I think, considering all of my concerns about these various technologies, while I could get a bigger DLP, thus far I've been more pleased with the images I've seen on plasmas (after CRT, of course).

Right now, I am looking at two models:

HP Pavilion MD6580n

Samsung HL-S6187W

Has anyone heard how these two stack up against one another?

Each of these sets accepts a 1080p signal, which is a requirement for me to help 'future-proof' my set.

I know that the MD6580n does not exhibit the 'half-rez' problem described in the article I linked to above. I imagine the HL-S6187W does not either, but I'd like some definitive word, if possible.

I seen reports of RBE on both these displays, so I'd guess I'd better check them out in person before I commit to one. Since I've never spent any real time watching a DLP, I'm not sure if I would notice RBE, but I've developed a pretty keen eye over the years, for better or worse.

I honestly wouldn't mind sticking with a RPTV, but are enough manufacturers making these that new ones will come out that accept a 1080p signal natively?

Thanks for you help, guys...

Everthing I have read is that the Samsung is better. And having it at home I can tell you it is awesome! Have you had a chance to look at them both?