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-   -   Next Generation of HDDVD Players (https://forum.dvdtalk.com/hd-talk/466798-next-generation-hddvd-players.html)

Vipper II 06-23-06 02:12 PM
Originally Posted by Fettastic
Very interesting. I'm still getting mine tonight though.
If you're "The" Fett, you've certainly changed your views on HD DVD, it would seem. If you're not, just disregard.

Fettastic 06-23-06 02:26 PM
Originally Posted by Vipper II
If you're "The" Fett, you've certainly changed your views on HD DVD, it would seem. If you're not, just disregard.
Ah Vipper, yes there is only one Fett.

Bill Hunt at the digitalbits.com basically turned me around on this matter. When he posted that the firmware update essentially fixed every problem with the player and that his new Samsung was total crap, that was the clincher. I can afford HD DVD, I can't afford Blu-ray right now. I'll get it with the PS3 and I'll just have to satiate myself with HD DVD for now.

Fettastic 06-23-06 02:27 PM
Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
It will be a part of the firmware upgrade 1.4 that will supposedly happen next week.

1080p is being debated via firmware. I don't think we've gotten a direct answer.
Next WEEK? My GOD! They just issued one LAST week!

Josh Z 06-23-06 02:33 PM
Originally Posted by Fettastic
Does anyone know why the HD-A1 can only output 1080i? I saw the HD DVD demonstration when they came through a couple weeks before it debuted and I was sort of surprised the guys hosting it seemd out of the loop. Their response was that HDMI was incapable of 1080p at the time. But the Samsung has the same HDMI port and it handles 1080p fine.
The Broadcom decoder chips inside both the Toshiba and Samsung players are only capable of decoding and outputting 1080i. Samsung added a Faroudja chip downstream of that (which is just one of the reasons it's more expensive) to deinterlace the 1080i to 1080p, so from their Blu-ray player you're really getting 1080p -> 1080i -> 1080p. Toshiba opted to keep costs down by just outputting 1080i without the deinterlace step.

Sony and Pioneer claim that their players will use different decoder chips that output 1080p natively, but we'll have to see whether that really pans out.

Fettastic 06-23-06 02:38 PM
Originally Posted by Josh Z
The Broadcom decoder chips inside both the Toshiba and Samsung players are only capable of decoding and outputting 1080i. Samsung added a Faroudja chip downstream of that (which is just one of the reasons it's more expensive) to deinterlace the 1080i to 1080p, so from their Blu-ray player you're really getting 1080p -> 1080i -> 1080p. Toshiba opted to keep costs down by just outputting 1080i without the deinterlace step.

Sony and Pioneer claim that their players will use different decoder chips that output 1080p natively, but we'll have to see whether that really pans out.
That's interesting. So does this degrade the image at all?

digitalfreaknyc 06-24-06 11:50 AM
yo...Rockstrongo!! email me about your problem please!

Binger 06-24-06 11:55 AM
Originally Posted by Fettastic
That's interesting. So does this degrade the image at all?
Converting the image twice, I would imagine the answer would be yes.

RockStrongo 06-25-06 09:17 AM
Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
yo...Rockstrongo!! email me about your problem please!
Sent....sorry, just couldnt email at work.


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