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Old 09-20-06, 09:01 AM
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News reports now coming out that the add-on will be $177 in Japan and released November 22.

It will also support 1080p.

http://www.gamespot.com/events/tgs20...pslot;action;2

2:21: Ah, something everybody wants to know more about: the HD-DVD add-on. Connects with USB, as we know, and supports 1080p. Mr. Kawanaka from the hardware division is now leading a live demo of the peripheral, which seems to integrate seamlessly with the 360 dashboard. Insert an HD-DVD disc, see an option to play it at the bottom of the screen, just like normal.

And what finer cinematic masterpiece with which to demo the new peripheral than The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift? We're seeing some demo features that can be found in all HD-DVD players, like bookmarks and picture-in-picture commentary. Playback also integrates seamlessly with the dashboard. No big surprises here--except perhaps that you can do video chat while you're watching a movie.

The drive will be hitting the streets November 22 at a price of 20,790 ($177), including tax. But when will it be out in the US?
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Old 09-20-06, 10:11 AM
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Well, I'm sure they are trying to launch it right around the PS3 launch.....

I'm interested still. Also, they say it will do 1080p, which I'm not sure how over component...is that possible?
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Why is Xbox news about Japan? They've sold what, a dozen units over there?

1080p is possible over component, although I'm not sure if any TVs are supporting it. Which might make it pointless, although technically ok. They may just mean it can read 1080p, which is obviously a requirement to play any HDDVD.
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Originally Posted by Spiky
Why is Xbox news about Japan? They've sold what, a dozen units over there?

1080p is possible over component, although I'm not sure if any TVs are supporting it. Which might make it pointless, although technically ok. They may just mean it can read 1080p, which is obviously a requirement to play any HDDVD.
Nope. Display.
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I know there is a Westinghouse that can take a 1080p signal over component, but they are pretty rare.

The $177 price for Japan gives a good chance for a $150 price here.
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Of course this news comes out now...
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Originally Posted by darkside
I know there is a Westinghouse that can take a 1080p signal over component, but they are pretty rare.

The $177 price for Japan gives a good chance for a $150 price here.
I have the 42" Westy 1080p LCD. When I bought it it was advertised to accept 1080p over component. Since then, they've updated the specifications.

http://www.westinghousedigital.com/p...p-monitor.aspx
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Anyone notice there's a firewire connection on the back of that sucker? I'll bet that's how we'll get advanced audio.
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I've read that its a mini-usb port on the back, that is how it will connect to the 360.

http://gear.ign.com/articles/733/733328p1.html
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It looks like it has two standard USB ports and a firewire port. If it (or the 360) doesn't have firewire or HDMI or 5.1 analog outs, how will it pass advanced audio?
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That's the 64 million dollar question.
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Sorry, boys. That is a mini-USB port, not Firewire. For attachment to the 360.

"It attaches via a mini-USB to the X360 which is where all the processing for the drive will happen."
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Sign me up for one although I hope these 1080p-over-component and advanced audio issues are addressed. I wonder if they could make a breakout box for HDMI to attach via USB?
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Here's what the 360 will output with the add-on. This is per the insider thread, source is amir @ Microsoft. Reference: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post8478750

1080p is supported over VGA for DVD, HD DVD and gaming output. And yes, AACS does allow 1080p over VGA (classified under authorized "computer monitor outputs").

For component, you get gaming up to 1080p, and 1080i for HD DVD. DVD only works at 480p over this connection. The latter two are due to restrictions in DVD CCA and AACS rules for DVD and HD DVD playback respectively.

On gaming, the machine supports both scaling of 720p games to 1080p, and native games running at 1080p resolution. It is up to game developers to decide which way to go.
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So VGA only for 1080p?
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Originally Posted by Fincher Fan
So VGA only for 1080p?
Correct. Also remember if you have VGA currently, the 360 is a pretty decent upscaler of DVDs.
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Will VGA work in a RGB input?
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Scared to post this because of the obvious bashing, but I'm not the one saying it. Would hate to see the one who is get banned!

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/09/21/so...-announcement/
Originally Posted by Sony
"It's unfortunate that Microsoft's external HD-DVD drive will not enhance the experience at all for the gamer. Sony realizes that to truly take gaming into the next generation requires a larger data format for both games and movies. PS3 uses the Blu-ray format for gaming, giving developers 50 GB of high-definition storage on a single disc, while Microsoft's 9 GB DVD gaming format is an obstacle for storing HD content. Furthermore, Microsoft's announced HD games patch is really just a compatibility feature -- upscaling lower-resolution content does not make it Full HD (1080p), something that PS3 can do out of the box."
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Put this on the list of the reasons why I hate Sony, next time a mod asks.
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
Put this on the list of the reasons why I hate Sony, next time a mod asks.
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I can't wait to see how many games go over 9GBs. I'm betting they will have to toss in tons of HD FMV to do it. Oh well, back to playing my DS. A system that totally proves that large storage capacity is needed for great gaming.
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
Put this on the list of the reasons why I hate Sony, next time a mod asks.
Sony is on the ropes and they are going to take every cheap shot they can.
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
Will VGA work in a RGB input?
Should. These are typically the same thing these days. There used to be a 3 input RGB input for high-end computer monitors (looked like component, but different), but that is well past. Now RGB tends to refer to the same thing as VGA in the HDTV world.
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I don't suppose anyone makes a VGA to component adaptor?
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
I don't suppose anyone makes a VGA to component adaptor?
They do, actually. People were also discussing that on AVS.
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