Are people with 1080i TV's screwed in the HD world?
04-14-06 | 10:18 AM
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Well, I may eventually upgrade. I'd have to get a switch box also though...which would kinda suck. I already have my 360 and my HD-DVR box connected through my receiver, since my TV only has ONE dedicated HD component input (but 3 component inputs total)
04-14-06 | 11:23 AM
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Ok, I have an older Mits 55" TV. It only has component inputs, so I know that I'm a bit screwed when it comes to HD-DVD. I have a 26" LCD with HDMI/DVI and more inputs....but that seems pointless, since it's my PC monitor/spare TV.
Is there any benefit getting a HD-DVD player and only have a TV that does 480p/1080i?
Is there any benefit getting a HD-DVD player and only have a TV that does 480p/1080i?
HDTVs to properly handle the 1080p from Blu Ray players are a rarity even now because of the constant changes to the HDMI format and cost cutting by TV manufacturers. Almost all of the current 1080p TVs will only upconvert the 1080i signal from Blu Ray.
Honestly 1080i looks pretty nice so missing out on 1080p for a few years is not a concern as an HDTV upgrade for me is years away. That is one of the reasons Toshibas launch players not supporting 1080p is a complete non issue. There are no TVs to hook them up to so why bother right now. By the time a 1080p HDTV that supports it is affordable a player upgrade will probably be pretty cheap as well.
However, I will say that I am sure a properly displayed 1080p signal will look better and eventually it will be something we all want when the cost balances out with the difference in picture quality. I'm currently enjoying how much better my regular DVDs look upconverted to 1080i with my Denon so I'm definitely getting excited about true HD DVD.
Honestly 1080i looks pretty nice so missing out on 1080p for a few years is not a concern as an HDTV upgrade for me is years away. That is one of the reasons Toshibas launch players not supporting 1080p is a complete non issue. There are no TVs to hook them up to so why bother right now. By the time a 1080p HDTV that supports it is affordable a player upgrade will probably be pretty cheap as well.
However, I will say that I am sure a properly displayed 1080p signal will look better and eventually it will be something we all want when the cost balances out with the difference in picture quality. I'm currently enjoying how much better my regular DVDs look upconverted to 1080i with my Denon so I'm definitely getting excited about true HD DVD.
Is the general consensus that it may take a few more years to fully enjoy the 1080p?
What TV should I go with?
04-14-06 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by gimmepilotwings
Is the general consensus that it may take a few more years to fully enjoy the 1080p?
What TV should I go with?
What TV should I go with?
I personally would not be concerned with one of today's 1080p sets not displaying 1080p native from the next-gen formats. But if you are concerned, wait until the launch of HD-DVD and Blu-Ray.
This could vary on your upgrade cycle, however. For me, TVs are more like 4-5 year investments (versus a 1-2 year one). If you don't go 1080p now, I'm guessing in a year or so, you'll be kicking yourself for not waiting.
04-14-06 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by cajun_junky
My question is this: Once we move to 1080p it will be a nice improvement. But are we close to reaching a point where a higher resolution is not distinguishable by the human eye?
At the HD DVD demo people more than 5 or 6 rows back actually had trouble seeing the differences between 1080i and 480p in some cases so it just kind of will depend on the person.
04-14-06 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Philly30
unless i missed something All the players i have seen say HDMI input needed but there is no mention of component inputs
04-14-06 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Philly30
Can i use component cables instead of HDMI and still get same picture quality
For now, they are not using ICT. But... the studios wanted this feature. So I'd expect they will use it at some point.
04-14-06 | 06:27 PM
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There are two FAQ right at the top of the forum that will help you answer questions like these without derailing existing topics. Take some initiative to find the answers yourself.
04-14-06 | 07:08 PM
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How am i derailing the topic , the original post was about component inputs on HDTVs, and i asked about the players relating to the component question so if you have a problem with my posts i suggest you take the intiative and go to another thread of your liking
04-14-06 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Philly30
How am i derailing the topic , the original post was about component inputs on HDTVs, and i asked about the players relating to the component question so if you have a problem with my posts i suggest you take the intiative and go to another thread of your liking
04-14-06 | 10:15 PM
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From: Somewhere Far, Far Away...
another question for ya.. I've asked this in other forums but got no help..
In Jan I got a Sony 42" KDF-E42A10...
the book says it supports 1080i & 720p..
1. which is better??
2. I could not find any settings to switch it, so does it auto pick the setting??
thankz
In Jan I got a Sony 42" KDF-E42A10...
the book says it supports 1080i & 720p..
1. which is better??
2. I could not find any settings to switch it, so does it auto pick the setting??
thankz
04-14-06 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mbs
As long as the DVI does HDCP. A lot of DVI sets do not.
04-14-06 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
Then how do you find out if it does?
Originally Posted by ds6161
another question for ya.. I've asked this in other forums but got no help..
In Jan I got a Sony 42" KDF-E42A10...
the book says it supports 1080i & 720p..
1. which is better??
2. I could not find any settings to switch it, so does it auto pick the setting??
In Jan I got a Sony 42" KDF-E42A10...
the book says it supports 1080i & 720p..
1. which is better??
2. I could not find any settings to switch it, so does it auto pick the setting??
2. The TV likely scales to its native resolution. My set just scales everything (up and down) to 768p.
From your TV's manual (link, it looks like the native resolution of your set is 720p. And it displays ANY source at 720p, regardless of what you are feeding it (480p, 1080i, et cetera). Thus, IMO, your best bet is to go with 720p out for all sources. Your TV will have to do less scaling and the less manipulations needing performed on the picture, the better, IMO.
04-15-06 | 01:37 AM
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From: Capitol of the Empire! Center of all Commerce and Culture! Crossroads of Civilization! NEW ROME!!!...aka New York City
I was going to hold off on buying my TV for some of the same reasons....
..In 2002.
the whole DVI vs. FIREWIRE debate and the YOUR TV WILL BE USELESS!!!111!!!oneoneone!!!!
4 Years later, there has been NOTHING I cannot view on my Mits 55511.
And if they decide to downgrade signals over component, then I aint buying that shit...by the time Im affected by this, and the BR vs. HD-DVD dust settles, my TV will be out of its useful life anyway.
EVEY major electronic you buy FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE will have these future-proof problems. RELX and enjoy your TV.
And if us componant-only Mitsubishi owners get screwed YEARS FROM NOW, send me an e-mail...Ill pick you up a HDMI to Componant conversion box from the back of a sneaker store in chinatown
..In 2002.
the whole DVI vs. FIREWIRE debate and the YOUR TV WILL BE USELESS!!!111!!!oneoneone!!!!
4 Years later, there has been NOTHING I cannot view on my Mits 55511.
And if they decide to downgrade signals over component, then I aint buying that shit...by the time Im affected by this, and the BR vs. HD-DVD dust settles, my TV will be out of its useful life anyway.
EVEY major electronic you buy FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE will have these future-proof problems. RELX and enjoy your TV.
And if us componant-only Mitsubishi owners get screwed YEARS FROM NOW, send me an e-mail...Ill pick you up a HDMI to Componant conversion box from the back of a sneaker store in chinatown
04-15-06 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mbs
Google or TV manual would probably be the best tools.
1. It depends on your TV and its internal scaler. With my LCD, I find matching the native resolution (768p) to give me the best results, so I go with 720p.
2. The TV likely scales to its native resolution. My set just scales everything (up and down) to 768p.
From your TV's manual (link, it looks like the native resolution of your set is 720p. And it displays ANY source at 720p, regardless of what you are feeding it (480p, 1080i, et cetera). Thus, IMO, your best bet is to go with 720p out for all sources. Your TV will have to do less scaling and the less manipulations needing performed on the picture, the better, IMO.
1. It depends on your TV and its internal scaler. With my LCD, I find matching the native resolution (768p) to give me the best results, so I go with 720p.
2. The TV likely scales to its native resolution. My set just scales everything (up and down) to 768p.
From your TV's manual (link, it looks like the native resolution of your set is 720p. And it displays ANY source at 720p, regardless of what you are feeding it (480p, 1080i, et cetera). Thus, IMO, your best bet is to go with 720p out for all sources. Your TV will have to do less scaling and the less manipulations needing performed on the picture, the better, IMO.
are there any LCDs that do 1080i or will there be
04-15-06 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Philly30
are there any LCDs that do 1080i or will there be
04-15-06 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Philly30
What about 1080p? with the high def DVDs coming out i want the best possible quality but i don't want to buy a big Regular tv