Adam Tyner

From Home Media Retailing:

Wow, that's extremely competitive with DVD. I'll update this thread (unless someone beats me to the punch) with those 10 titles next week.

bboisvert

Great MSRP!

I really can't wait for these products to become a reality so I can start to reevaluate my "sitting on the fence" position...

cajun_junky

Is it possible that with two competing formats that we might see highly competitive prices on alot of movies (not all)??

Sort of like establishing dominance with low prices, then once they are the dominant format, back off on the "deals" to increase their margins.

Adam Tyner

If it's the same list as at CES:

The Devil's Rejects
Dune (mini-series)
Lord of War
The Punisher
Rambo: First Blood
Reservoir Dogs
Saw
See No Evil
Terminator 2: Judgment Day
Total Recall

joshd2012

Damn. That is even better! I'll go update my sticky.

Steve

buyer beware. Lion's gate is now creating full screen versions of widescreen films for widescreen TVs. By that I mean that they are cropping 2:35 and 1:85 ratio films to 'fill up' widescreen TVs that are 1:78 ratio. not as bad as 4:3 full screen, but still the same concept.

So with High Def DVD, Full Screen will STILL mean 'no black bars!".. ugh.

If this is the trend, then I will only get high def DVDs that keep the OAR.

DavidH

Unfortunately, fighting for OAR will seemingly never end.

digitalfreaknyc

It's a bit premature to say what they'll do on an HD format. Besides...they did it to ONE title. Let's not go crazy yet.

matome

T2 in blu-ray for $25 Of course if they pull that 1.78 crop shit, they can fuck off.

Grubert

Make that two. They did the open-matte thing for Creep:


The British DVD is 2.35:1 and the American one is 1.78:1.


I am officially worried.

bboisvert

Doesn't that make 3 then? Creep, Lords of War, and Saw II.


Although, I agree. It's definitely too early to call this a pattern...

digitalfreaknyc

And to be honest, once Lions Gate starts making GOOD movies, then I'll complain

Mr. Cinema

They don't have the balls to do that to a James Cameron flick.

The Bus

No, they did it to several.

Grubert

Saw II is only 1.85:1 to 1.78:1. A lot of movies are like that without them announcing it or us noticing.

Steve

My concern is that my local HD Cable stations also did the same thing.. (not sure which - i have since cancelled cable). I thought this strange - that all the HD channels (including movies) i saw were magically 1:78..so it's not just Lion's gate.

Yes - it's premature to say ANYTHING about blue-ray, red-ray, or you-can-call-me-anything-as-long-as-I-end-with-ray, but these incidents do concern me..

All I am saying is that we should be careful and just not assume something is released in high def that it will be OAR. (for those of us who care)

wickedfeel

Ditto that sentiment. They will be fools if they continue to try this crap with the next high capacity disc format, as the early adopters will be the people with $$$, who typically have come to understand HD technology, OAR and such things (at least more than your average consumer). Already working with a very small market share of early adopters, this will shrink even more if they continue to think people won't pay attention and care about the difference and stand up against it. I for one, have the equiptment and the money, but I won't be buying in to either of these technologies (Blu-Ray or HD-DVD) for at least a year. Too many factors against both formats that could make them flop (not enough of a market, 2 direct competing formats, early price of equiptment, usage restrictions, will they even have 1080p on all titles? if not, shame on them, not a chance I'll ever buy, potential creeping technology with holographic storage, the fact that it WILL BE CRACKED - it's just a matter of time, incompatible hardware [i.e. limited resolution over analog connections], and such things, the list can truly go on. There's just really no demand with most people still excited and fully satisfied with what DVD offers.

Josh-da-man

There is very little difference between 1.78:1 and 1.85:1. It's essentially irrelevent before you take into account things like television overscan.

And how many films are matted to exactly 1.85:1 in theaters, anyway? You're probably getting a better representation of OAR with DVD than you are sitting in a movie theater whether the disc is 1.85:1 or 1.78:1.

Though changing a 2.35:1 movie to 1.78:1 is a different matter.

pro-bassoonist

if I may add...any of the above "substance" to any film=....fill in the blank...

Pro-B

PerryD

Actually T2 is a Super35 film, and I always felt that the 2.35 version is framed a bit tight on the top of the frame, so an open matte version wouldn't look that bad, but certainly if I had a preference I would want the original theatrical ratio.