Found this picture from CES over on AVS today. I don't see a picture only thread so thought I'd throw it up.

I can't see how colors will look that much better from DVD to HD. The dvd shot looks completely washed out and the HD shot looks over saturated. I doubt you would even see that much of a difference between the two on a screenshot that is only 600x400 of two even smaller monitors.

Yeah. They actually both look bad in that pic.

Taking a picture of a TV image isn't going to show you anything. The camera is going to automatically compensate for the image quality and try to hit a median. We're going to have to wait until they hit stores before we can really see what the difference is.

The picture above is a pretty good indicator of the difference in regards to color saturation. The only thing you really won't notice by that picture is any difference in resolution. I could post dvhs screenshots up all day that also show the same difference with regards to color.

My guess is that they purposely desaturated the DVD picture, or oversaturated the HD picture so the HD signal would look that much better, just like they do in TV showrooms; they put everything to its highest level so it "pops" more. A properly mastered DVD shouldn't have any noticeable difference in color saturation vs an HD source.

The only best way to officially judge and compare the quality of Blu-Ray to SD DVD for ourselves, is to view the difference with our own observation, is in person.

Spent the day at CES. The pictures don't really show the difference the way you see in the booths. For me, the difference wasn't so much in color saturation, but in details. They had two dvd players running simultaneously showing flamingos. The hues were similar but the details in things like feathers and grass were much more obvious in the Blu-Ray version.

Heck, the differences were so obvious even this guy could tell the difference:

I completely agree with this. The fact that they have done this in the "comparison" demo makes me even more suspicious of the actual increase in perceived PQ. We'll see, but tactics like this make it look like the quality increase can't stand on its own...they shouldn't cripple the other side in the comparison.

Don't get me wrong, I've got a 1080p capable projector, I want a big PQ increase, but I doubt when I switch back and forth from DVD to BR/HD-DVD that my colors will look that much better.

On most sources they will look that much better.

BTW, what 1080p projector do you have?

If it's some marketing tactic, then that's terrible. I'm guessing (hoping) that it's just a result of the way the digital camera stores pics taken of monitors.

Many have said that the PQ increase from DVD to HD is leaps and bounds greater than the PQ increase from VHS to DVD. If the HD movies on HBO, Showtime, and HDNet Movies are any indication, then I agree with that statement (this is assuming that the movies on BR/HD-DVD will look as good as the HD movies on those channels). I almost don't want to watch DVDs anymore these days, as they look "crappy" compared to the HD movies on TV.

I'd like to know too.

I recall him mentioning that he had an high lumen LCD projector (sounded like a business projector). I don't know of any 1080p LCDs out right now, esepecially with 2500 lumens.

That LCD projector will take a 1080i singal, but will downscale it to the projector's fixed pixel resolution. A digital projector's resolution never changes, unlike a CRT projector (doesn't used fixed pixels to create an image).

I don't know about that. If the question were NTSC TV vs ATSC, sure. But not DVD, which has been done well many times.

You're correct, it takes 1080i (not 1080p). Its a Sanyo PLC-XP21N.

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I got it back in 2001. I got it because it supported 480p and with a progressive scan DVD player, it maximized the DVD capability. And at the same time it supported HDTV resolutions (including 720p and 1080i). Of course, it downscales to XGA resolution (1024 x 768), but I assume the better you put in, the better it can put out.

Hopefully BR will support 1080i through component so I can use it. Otherwise, I'll probably have to sit out for a while because I can't upgrade the projector and be an early HD/BR adopter. I realize even if BR players support 1080i via component, the disc still may not allow it due to copyright issues... we'll see.

I want to start upgrading to HD discs as soon as possible... When we get an idea of the initial prices that may throw some cold water on me, though.

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