Altered Aspect Ratios for Network HiDef TV presentation
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Altered Aspect Ratios for Network HiDef TV presentation
Since it's common practice to conform and trunscate the image of 2.35 films for HD-TV to 1.78 - how is this actually done? The HiDef master is the full image - right? But then altered by the network. Have any 2.35 films been correctly framed for network HD transmission - I can't wait to see how and if TCM transmits it's widescreen films.
With the number of films transferred and sourced to HiDef standards - I would assume there are alot of new (HD) masters getting created every day - correct?
With the number of films transferred and sourced to HiDef standards - I would assume there are alot of new (HD) masters getting created every day - correct?
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Originally Posted by Giles
Since it's common practice to conform and trunscate the image of 2.35 films for HD-TV to 1.78 - how is this actually done?
Originally Posted by Giles
But then altered by the network.
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Have any 2.35 films been correctly framed for network HD transmission - I can't wait to see how and if TCM transmits it's widescreen films.
Those are off the top of my head, but there's a more complete list on the AVS Forum.
TCM is my most wanted channel in high-definition.
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It's the same as the old way, just to a different shape. Cropped and/or pan-n-scanned, usually looks like crap. MonsterHD is supposed to generally be OAR, but I've never had it, can't really say.
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Originally Posted by Giles
Any one have MonsterHD - what's their story: do they show movies in their original aspect ratio? or do they get the cropped 1.78 versions?
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Originally Posted by jmj713
How does 1.33:1 OAR work in HD? Side bars?
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How does 1.33:1 OAR work in HD? Side bars?
And Universal is apparently cropping Knight Rider and others for HD broadcast:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=450536
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Originally Posted by bboisvert
Yes, although I'm starting to see a pretty disturbing trend of stations altering 1.33:1 material too. I don't watch TNT-HD much, but I've seen them stretch material to fit the 16x9 frame.
And Universal is apparently cropping Knight Rider and others for HD broadcast
And Universal is apparently cropping Knight Rider and others for HD broadcast
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Some stations just don't it how videophiles care about OAR. The stretching on TNT is just mind-blowing. They do it with many of the "X-Files" episodes I see -- it's really obvious that the picture is distorted. inHD channels drive me nuts too -- just a waste of HD bandwidth on the cable system. They seem to always crop 2.35. But they'll usually leave the opening credits OAR, cropping when the movie proper starts (which at least makes the cropping really easy to spot). The cropping and the obnoxiously large persistent logo in the lower right screen make me never watch movies on these stations. HDNet channels are really good though
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Originally Posted by flashburn
Hell, on TNT-HD I have even seen them take a 2.35:1 movie, crop it to 4:3, AND then stretch it to 16:9.
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Hell, on TNT-HD I have even seen them take a 2.35:1 movie, crop it to 4:3, AND then stretch it to 16:9.
That's nuts. I'm aggravated with DirecTV taking so long to add new national HD channels but TNT-HD just slid down lower on my want list.
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That's nuts. I'm aggravated with DirecTV taking so long to add new national HD channels but TNT-HD just slid down lower on my want list.
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Turner is the biggest joke of any well known player in broadcast TV, no contest. Remember the VP going after DVR users, and anyone with the gall to go to the bathroom with the TV on? I never watch any of their channels, and I don't give a damn if TNTHD ever shows up on my D* lineup. They even beat out NBC in stupidity/failure, which has such geniuses I'm surprised they can make it to work without getting lost or accidentally falling over a cliff.
Ok, I feel a little better now.
Ok, I feel a little better now.
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That's true. TCM is definitely one of the better networks out there. Thanks for the reminder. It would be nice if they (or anybody) had another one like that for movies made after I was born, though. I like the older movies, just would like both.