Its HD. There is no division.

Thank god. But I guess it doesn't matter since everything will be anamorphic. I guess the only interest would be for other regions with DTS. :)

For those interested...a peek at DTS-HD 7.1 ;)

http://www.dtsonline.com/company/pre...cID=3&yID=2005

Not true. There is still the issue of frame rate. I'm not sure what Blu-Ray or HD-DVD will do, but broadcast HD in Europe still uses 50hz like PAL, while the US has 60hz like NTSC.

Interesting article, I think they should stick with just "DTS-HD" labeling, I think "DTS-HD Master Audio" is overkill IMO.

I didn't think digital connections used frequency? Is that just a broadcast TV thing?

Not necessarily! It will be a vast sound improvement overall, for the Home Theater market and for audiophiles who are equipped with compatible 7.1 digital receivers, with a pair of surround back speakers to gain full benefit from the extra discrete channel. I am one of those audiophiles! :). Dolby Lab will introduce their upcoming versions of the 7.1, and HD audio formats as well.

http://www.dolby.com/consumer/techno...ital_plus.html

http://www.dolby.com/promo/HD/trueHD.html

Surely new HD TVs will have no problem handling both? That way, depending on whether something was filmed at 24fps or 25fps, the Blu-Ray or HD-DVD disc would be able to playback at the correct speed.

Sure will be interesting when people in other PAL countries watch DVD's. They're going to think everything sounds slow ;)

I bet the majority of them won't even notice the difference :D2: .

OK...let me know :)

http://www.pioneer.co.jp/press/release159.html

NOICE. ;)

I think you misunderstood me, I'm all for improved sound performance etc. what I was talking about is the way they are wording it, DTS-HD extra super master audio etc... too long, keep it short and to the point. "DTS-HD" does just that. Is their logo gonna have "master audio" in it? I think aesthetically DTS-HD would be sufficient IMO.

A great article on how Microsoft is trying to use their monopolistic control over the PC market to prevent a high definition optical storage:

http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/s...leID=175400242

It seems that Microsoft has promised "coupons" to PC manufacturers for every PC they sell with a HD-DVD drive in it. It also appears that they don't want HD-DVD to win the war, just prevent a winner long enough for Microsoft to get their own solution out there.

Microsoft: Always working with the consumer in mind. :up:

Yes, this sounds like some kind of DIVX or VOD scheme:

Wow, this has all the things I love rolled right up in one:So Microsoft illegally steals Java/J2EE, bastardizes it into a proprietary solution called C#/.NET, pays Sun $20 million in a copyright infringement settlement then uses this stolen technology to try to foist a PPV system on everyone and become "the telephone company of the living room.".

Unlike Sony, right? :rolleyes:

As a consumer who wants HiDef movies, I see Sony pushing strongly to get this product to consumers and Microsoft doing everything to slow it down. I never said Sony was an angel, but come on, are you seriously going to take the stance that Sony has a similar market pull to Microsoft?

In consumer entertainment space... Yes. Sony has the muscle and resources to push through proprietary media formats. Sony also has its hooks into the key ingredient to making a format successful... content. Microsoft doesn't have that kind of pull. The only thing that MS can do is to leverage their dominance in the PC arena. But for some reason, you think that it is honorable for Sony to push Blu-Ray but dishonorable for MS to push HD. Each side is leveraging their strengths to see their interests succeed. Let's not let anti-MS sentiment cloud reality.

Sony is pushing strongly to get this product to consumers simply for money and not for some humanitarian reason. And Sony has proven that it is willing to go to any length possible to implement undefeatable DRM.

I won't ever believe that Sony has as much muscle as you suggest. MiniDisc pretty much failed (at least here in the US). I expect Sony to push the technology that they produced! You can't criticize them because they are trying to sell what they have already invested heavily in. On the other hand, you have Microsoft - who don't have the media to put on these discs nor the processes to manufacture the hardware - heavily supporting HD-DVD because its either not Sony or to slow down the acceptance of high definition movies by the public. You can't see a difference there?

They're both pushing they're format to make money. End of story. Neither is doing anything wrong or unexpected from big corporations.

You're just seeing things through your Sony blinders as usual.

Whatever you say Josh :lol:

I'll not pro Sony or Microsoft at all. Just want to see a product come to market asap. I'll buy the best one.

That said, Microsoft is skirting close to another Netscape like situation by forcing other vendors away from Blu-Ray. Even HP, who just decided to back them, admitted it in public. Same tactics, same company, same old story.

The question still stands as to why Toshiba has pushed back their launch twice. AACS holdup has been the main reason given to the press, which is true of course, but a lot of word is out there that Toshiba is having all kinds of problems getting the hardware to work. That would explain why the setup they had Cedia was having problems and kept shutting off/rebooting itself. Pretty sad given that HD-dvd was touted as being an easy upgrade from dvd. Then again, maybe they are having problems b/c most of the big CE companies are working with Sony.

I really don't think MS gives a damn about either HD-dvd or BR. If they did they would have worked towards getting HD-dvd in the X-box and AACS settled faster. The fact that they waitied so long to jump in the crowd makes me think they are just in it for concessions. MS wants iHD in and Java out.

I agree. But still, MS is just doing what ever they can to try to make themselve the most money, and Sony is doing the same.

Sony just happens to be in a better position, and one that is more beneficial to consumers who want high def dvd movies available in a unified format as fast as possible.

But I still see it as too big corporations just trying to maximize profits. Probably easier for me to see it that way since I don't give two shits about high def dvds right now though. ;)

That's pretty much my thoughts as well. Criticizing Microsoft and turning a blind eye to Sony seems silly, but considering the poster, it kind of figures.