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IBJoel 01-07-19 11:48 AM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 

Originally Posted by Timber (Post 13475452)
I can't get to the end of the 2019 Pro Wrestling thread in the sports forum. Just stops at post #38 and I've tried it on multiple devices.

Separate issue that I have now fixed.

IBJoel 01-07-19 11:51 AM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 13475449)
I have ads in between posts and on the right only at the top of a page, not as I scroll down.
But honestly, if an ad is supposed to take up that entire white space, that's eve worse.
I know you gotta make money with ads, but when overly obtrusive ads turn people away, you're just gonna get even less eyeballs.
Get rid of the margin ads and put in more ads between posts.
And I know you don't have control over this, but the ads with automatically streaming videos are the worst - they really slow things down, making me close the page. Or turn on ad-block. I don't have a problem with ads, I have a problem when they slow down my browser.

Ads may be of various sizes. I can ask about substituting ads between posts, but from what I've read here, most people oppose those more than banner and side ads.

VinVega 01-07-19 01:06 PM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 
Thank you for fixing the forum jump drop down. It works as before now.

Trevor 01-07-19 01:18 PM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 

Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 13475465)
Ads may be of various sizes. I can ask about substituting ads between posts, but from what I've read here, most people oppose those more than banner and side ads.

Understand that ads are necessary.
I’d vote that ad’s are preferable on the side or bottom, and between posts would be the worst spot.

Trevor 01-07-19 01:29 PM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 
A tweak made sometime today has completley hosed the tables in this thread, and all the past survivor threads.
https://forum.dvdtalk.com/sports-tal...th-annual.html

IBJoel and IB in general, we often get the impression that IB doesn’t appreciate the community aspect of this site, and the types of threads that make this a community. Sure, some people just come here for reviews, or for political talk, or for dvd deal threads, but a key part of the lifeblood of this site, what keeps a good chunk of people coming here for 20 years now, are the community threads; the monthly Challenges, the yearly sports contests, the sheep games, the ‘exclusive’ threads that normal users religiously maintain for free. Many of these threads rely on tables and fancy formatting. Big changes like this update should have been made with the actual users and how they post in mind.

BobO'Link 01-07-19 02:09 PM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 

Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 13475368)
Full CKEditor is the only one optimized for the new site. You are correct that it does not support colored text. This may be fixed later on, but there are no plans for it at this time.

OK... so will the other editors be optimized for the new site? I find the limitations of CKEditor more restrictive than the others. It has *some* good points but not enough to warrant switching to it exclusively.

Based on what I regularly post I'll absolutely be sticking with the "Standard Enhanced" editor as it offers the best overall functionality for me. I'd guess there are many others who participate in the challenges that feel much the same.

IBJoel 01-07-19 03:26 PM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 
Update: I am working with the tech and business teams to get adjustments made on ad layouts for logged-in users. We don't currently have an ETA, but I would say by end of week.

IBJoel 01-07-19 03:28 PM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 

Originally Posted by BobO'Link (Post 13475609)
OK... so will the other editors be optimized for the new site? I find the limitations of CKEditor more restrictive than the others. It has *some* good points but not enough to warrant switching to it exclusively.

Based on what I regularly post I'll absolutely be sticking with the "Standard Enhanced" editor as it offers the best overall functionality for me. I'd guess there are many others who participate in the challenges that feel much the same.

They won't be optimized, but they aren't going anywhere. On sites where we've made this update over a year ago, they're still available as editors and we've had only a few compatibility issues.

The Cow 01-07-19 05:03 PM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 
Any chance we can get the "Panic" button back? The settings for it are still there in the User CP.

LorenzoL 01-07-19 07:07 PM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 

Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 13475383)
Can you provide me with the URL of a page where this is happening?

I got it on every thread last night but now it's not happening. If I get it, I'll post the link in here. BTW, I'm on a desktop with Chrome.

LorenzoL 01-07-19 07:13 PM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 

Originally Posted by LorenzoL (Post 13475789)
I got it on every thread last night but now it's not happening. If I get it, I'll post the link in here. BTW, I'm on a desktop with Chrome.

I spoke too soon.
It seems to happen when I enter a thread with lots of tweets postings and images.
https://forum.dvdtalk.com/religion-p...thread-12.html


dsa_shea 01-07-19 10:01 PM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 

Originally Posted by The Cow (Post 13475731)
Any chance we can get the "Panic" button back? The settings for it are still there in the User CP.

Alabama is looking for it right now.

Hazel Motes 01-08-19 02:12 AM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 
I'm sorry if this was mentioned already in this thread, but my not searching for it actually ties in to my actual gripe itself. Please, PLEASE tell me there is a way to turn off this infinite scroll nonsense. Thank you.

Meathead 01-08-19 05:38 AM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 

Originally Posted by Hazel Motes (Post 13475921)
I'm sorry if this was mentioned already in this thread, but my not searching for it actually ties in to my actual gripe itself. Please, PLEASE tell me there is a way to turn off this infinite scroll nonsense. Thank you.

https://forum.dvdtalk.com/forum-feed...w-disable.html

TheBigDave 01-08-19 06:38 AM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 
I've noticed when I reply to a thread, or post a new thread, the editor box is pushed all the way over to the left. I can make it taller, but I can't make it any wider.

Is this normal? I don't remember what it was like before.

It would be nice if I could make it wider. And shouldn't it be centered?

I'm using Firefox on a desktop PC.

https://i.imgur.com/fL4LUHsh.png

IBJoel 01-08-19 09:57 AM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 

Originally Posted by TheBigDave (Post 13475966)
I've noticed when I reply to a thread, or post a new thread, the editor box is pushed all the way over to the left. I can make it taller, but I can't make it any wider.

Is this normal? I don't remember what it was like before.

It would be nice if I could make it wider. And shouldn't it be centered?

I'm using Firefox on a desktop PC.

https://i.imgur.com/fL4LUHsh.png

Ah, that ties into what BobO'Link was mentioning on the last last page. So every user should have defaulted to "Full CKEditor". That's the only one optimized for the new software. You can keep the old text editor, like you have, but it has a few kinks. Tech will not be updating it, but they won't be scrapping it, either. If you want to switch editors because yours for some reason didn't switch to Full CKEditor, go here: https://forum.dvdtalk.com/profile.php?do=editoptions

Select the editor you'd like to use and click Save at the bottom.

IBJoel 01-08-19 09:58 AM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 

Originally Posted by LorenzoL (Post 13475791)
I spoke too soon.
It seems to happen when I enter a thread with lots of tweets postings and images.
https://forum.dvdtalk.com/religion-p...thread-12.html

Hm OK. And you turned off Infinite Scroll? Also, thank you for your device information on your previous post.

Trevor 01-08-19 10:32 AM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 

Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 13476062)
Ah, that ties into what BobO'Link was mentioning on the last last page. So every user should have defaulted to "Full CKEditor". That's the only one optimized for the new software. You can keep the old text editor, like you have, but it has a few kinks. Tech will not be updating it, but they won't be scrapping it, either. If you want to switch editors because yours for some reason didn't switch to Full CKEditor, go here: https://forum.dvdtalk.com/profile.php?do=editoptions

Select the editor you'd like to use and click Save at the bottom.

Played around with the various editor options. This default and only fully supported CKEditor is useless, at least on safari. You can’t select groups of words to edit.

But “Standard Editor - Extra formatting controls” appears to be the only one to work well, although I haven’t fully tested it.

Dr_Evil 01-08-19 10:47 AM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 
I'd like to see HTML embed turned back on. I know that I and others used it to display table data for leaderboards in different contests.

Examples:
https://forum.dvdtalk.com/sports-tal...th-annual.html
https://forum.dvdtalk.com/sports-tal...mpionship.html

IBJoel 01-08-19 11:00 AM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 

Originally Posted by Dr_Evil (Post 13476092)
I'd like to see HTML embed turned back on. I know that I and others used it to display table data for leaderboards in different contests.

Examples:
https://forum.dvdtalk.com/sports-tal...th-annual.html
https://forum.dvdtalk.com/sports-tal...mpionship.html

I'm trying to find out if there's any workaround we can do, but HTML represents a large security risk.

BobO'Link 01-08-19 12:01 PM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 

Originally Posted by TheBigDave (Post 13475966)
I've noticed when I reply to a thread, or post a new thread, the editor box is pushed all the way over to the left. I can make it taller, but I can't make it any wider.

Is this normal? I don't remember what it was like before.

It would be nice if I could make it wider. And shouldn't it be centered?

I'm using Firefox on a desktop PC.

https://i.imgur.com/fL4LUHsh.png


Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 13476062)
Ah, that ties into what BobO'Link was mentioning on the last last page. So every user should have defaulted to "Full CKEditor". That's the only one optimized for the new software. You can keep the old text editor, like you have, but it has a few kinks. Tech will not be updating it, but they won't be scrapping it, either. If you want to switch editors because yours for some reason didn't switch to Full CKEditor, go here: https://forum.dvdtalk.com/profile.php?do=editoptions

Select the editor you'd like to use and click Save at the bottom.

Here's the thing with that...

When you *reply* you get stuck with that narrow edit box. If you just "Submit Reply" and then "Edit" the resulting post you get an in-line "Standard" editor that *is* the full width of the screen as it should be. So... it works in one place but not another.

IBJoel 01-08-19 12:40 PM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 

Originally Posted by BobO'Link (Post 13476148)
Here's the thing with that...

When you *reply* you get stuck with that narrow edit box. If you just "Submit Reply" and then "Edit" the resulting post you get an in-line "Standard" editor that *is* the full width of the screen as it should be. So... it works in one place but not another.

Right. As I said, it isn't optimized. It will likely have irregular behavior.

IBJoel 01-08-19 12:46 PM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 
We have updated the ad layout for logged in users. They, especially ads between posts, should be less intrusive, now.

kenbuzz 01-08-19 10:09 PM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 
Hey guys, Kenbuzz here. Long time poster, first time visitor to this forum.

Hi.

Say, I notice that something y'all did has really borked-up the table-intensive DVDTalk NFL Playoff Pool. I could try to explain the disaster that the Pool has suddenly become, but I think it's best to experience it first-hand yourself. Here's the pool location:
https://forum.dvdtalk.com/sports-tal...-new-post.html

Here's a little sample of what -should- be interpreted HTML code, presented to the user as a table, but instead being presented as raw HTML:

<TABLE BORDER=1><tr align=center><TH align="center">Rank</TH><TH align="center">Player</TH><TH align="center">Wild Card</TH><TH align="center">Divisional</TH><TH align="center">Conference</TH><TH align="center">Super Bowl</TH><TH align="center">Points</TH><TH align="center">Actual</TH><TH align="center">Diff</TH></tr><tr align=center><td>-</td><td><b>:) The Cow</b></td><td>Indianapolis</td><td>LA Rams</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>50</td><td>-</td><td>-</td></tr><tr align=center><td>-</td><td><b>Trevor</b></td><td>Indianapolis</td><td>Kansas City</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>50</td><td>-</td><td>-</td></tr><tr align=center><td>-</td><td><b>:) Brew Crew</b></td><td>Dallas</td><td>LA Rams</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>55</td><td>-</td><td>-</td></tr><tr align=center><td>-</td><td><b>I Drink Molson</b></td><td>Indianapolis</td><td>Kansas City</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>55</td><td>-</td><td>-</td></tr><tr align=center><td>-</td><td><b>PeMo</b></td><td>LA Chargers</td><td>LA Rams</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>46</td><td>-</td><td>-</td></tr><tr align=center><td>-</td><td><b>Quake1028</b></td><td>Philadelphia</td><td>LA Rams</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>48</td><td>-</td><td>-</td></tr><tr align=center><td>-</td><td><b>:) rabbit77</b></td><td>LA Chargers</td><td>New England</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>45</td><td>-</td><td>-</td></tr><tr align=center><td>-</td><td><b>Jericho</b></td><td>Dallas</td><td>New Orleans</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>63</td><td>-</td><td>-</td></tr><tr align=center><td>-</td><td><b>Cardsfan111</b></td><td>LA Chargers</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>44</td><td>40</td><td>4</td></tr><tr align=center><td>-</td><td><b>Decker</b></td><td>Indianapolis</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>43</td><td>28</td><td>15</td></tr><tr align=center><td>-</td><td><b>the Chief</b></td><td>Indianapolis</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>45</td><td>28</td><td>17</td></tr><tr align=center><td>-</td><td><b>:editking: drc</b></td><td>Indianapolis</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>47</td><td>28</td><td>19</td></tr></table>

Every browser
Every thread
Going back sixteen years.

http://i64.tinypic.com/54ejc2.jpg
So, yeah, if there's a switch that got thrown that you might un-throw to fix this so that the above looks like a nicely formatted rectangle containing rows and cells and text rather than line after line after line of < and > and / and other giberish, that would be terrific.

Thanks!

joeblow69 01-08-19 10:15 PM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 
Read up a bit ^^^ HTML was disabled because it is a security risk. They are looking into seeing if there are any workarounds.

Spiderbite 01-09-19 04:57 AM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 

Originally Posted by The Cow (Post 13475731)
Any chance we can get the "Panic" button back? The settings for it are still there in the User CP.


Originally Posted by dsa_shea (Post 13475861)
Alabama is looking for it right now.

:lol:

But seriously...what is the "panic" button? I have been here forever, have zero clue what it is and have seen it mentioned here several times now.

IBJoel 01-09-19 09:12 AM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 
Panic button has been requested to be fixed.

LorenzoL 01-09-19 09:40 AM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 
I'm in the same boat as kenbuzz as I usually starts the NFL weekly threads and use the HTML table formatting for the schedules. Without, it looks like crap.

whotony 01-09-19 12:30 PM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 
I’ve been here for 19 years first I’ve heard of a panic button.

also ads between posts is trash.

one more thing, why don’t sentences auto capitalize anymore?

joeblow69 01-09-19 02:15 PM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 
I will have to admit, my first reaction was pretty much of disgust, but after using the site for a while, I've gotten used to the differences, and it doesn't bother me so much.
A couple things I do like:
  1. The emoji browser! So much nicer than the old one
  2. The old forum used to have problems with the "show me new posts in this thread" button. It would always put me 5-10 posts before the first new one. With the forum change, I always hit the exact first new post.

Trevor 01-09-19 02:37 PM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 
Can someone educate me on how exactly the HTML stuff went down here? I thought IBJoel said they turned HTML off here a couple weeks ago, something to do with YouTube and Twitter imbeds. He gave us a workaround for those imbeds. But even after that, the tables in our various sports and Challenge threads still worked. But then a couple days ago, something else was tweaked destroying the tables. If it was necessary for security reasons that’s fine, but it’d be nice to have a full explanation of the various things that you’ve done recently.

IBJoel 01-09-19 04:14 PM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 

Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 13477085)
Can someone educate me on how exactly the HTML stuff went down here? I thought IBJoel said they turned HTML off here a couple weeks ago, something to do with YouTube and Twitter imbeds. He gave us a workaround for those imbeds. But even after that, the tables in our various sports and Challenge threads still worked. But then a couple days ago, something else was tweaked destroying the tables. If it was necessary for security reasons that’s fine, but it’d be nice to have a full explanation of the various things that you’ve done recently.

So I'm not an HTML pro, but basically me turning HTML off happened for a couple of forums on the day before/after the software update.

IBJoel 01-09-19 04:14 PM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 

Originally Posted by whotony (Post 13476973)
I’ve been here for 19 years first I’ve heard of a panic button.

also ads between posts is trash.

one more thing, why don’t sentences auto capitalize anymore?

Are you on an iPhone, by chance?

whotony 01-09-19 05:09 PM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 

Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 13477167)
Are you on an iPhone, by chance?

not usually.

Ipad. Mostly.

ibobi 01-09-19 05:13 PM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 
-other-

tonyc3742 01-09-19 05:47 PM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 
Does Mobile version not have "search this thread" or "thread tools"?

Timber 01-09-19 05:57 PM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 
Is there any way to get the "forum jump" at the top of the page as well as the bottom? I hate having to scroll to the bottom of the page to get to a different forum. I hate the drop down at the top because I have to remember what category each forum is in.

LorenzoL 01-09-19 06:35 PM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 

Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 13477165)
So I'm not an HTML pro, but basically me turning HTML off happened for a couple of forums on the day before/after the software update.

So will HTML being off be a permanent move?

MooMooMooMoo 01-10-19 12:00 AM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 
Just some feedback: I really dislike the "infinite scroll".

MooMooMooMoo 01-10-19 12:01 AM

Re: Jan. 3rd 2019 Upgrade Master Thread
 

Originally Posted by Timber (Post 13477234)
Is there any way to get the "forum jump" at the top of the page as well as the bottom? I hate having to scroll to the bottom of the page to get to a different forum. I hate the drop down at the top because I have to remember what category each forum is in.

I second that request.


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