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The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 09-14-11 07:21 PM

Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
 

Originally Posted by spainlinx0 (Post 10923580)
I only use IE to browse this site. Suck it hipster Chrome users.

IE users are only punishing themselves.

Using chrome and had issues today.

EdTheRipper 09-14-11 08:16 PM

Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
 
Issues tonight with Firefox.

spainlinx0 09-15-11 10:41 AM

Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
 
I still don't see the big improvement of Chrome or Firefox over IE. I use Chrome and IE regularly, and other than Chrome opening up faster, not much difference, and I find I like the look of some sites better in IE, particularly Outlook Express.

kd5 09-16-11 07:57 AM

Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
 
Feels like IB may have shaved off a couple of seconds from the time it takes to access DVD Talk and/or navigate the site and make posts, but it still takes WAY too long for anything to happen here. Seems to me DVD Talk has done everything they can to keep the site fast, limiting avatars to only those who pay for the priviledge and keeping a lot of the advertising off the site, now it's IB's turn to resolve the remaining issues in the forum software. -kd5-

Adam Tyner 09-16-11 08:52 AM

Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
 

Originally Posted by kd5 (Post 10925785)
now it's IB's turn to resolve the remaining issues in the forum software.

It's something more widespread than just the vBulletin software...since the sluggishness affects everything on the site, not just the forum, it's gotta be server-level, but I don't know what it is, exactly.

Trevor 09-16-11 09:41 AM

Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
 

Originally Posted by Adam Tyner (Post 10925857)
It's something more widespread than just the vBulletin software...since the sluggishness affects everything on the site, not just the forum, it's gotta be server-level, but I don't know what it is, exactly.

Couldn't be that getting busier, could it? Aren't we much smaller and slower than we were a few years ago?

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 09-16-11 12:52 PM

Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
 
I say we do away with graphics altogether and make this a text only site. Movie covers and screenshots on reviews should all be done in ASCII.

islandclaws 09-16-11 04:15 PM

Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
 
I use FF at home and IE at work.

Today, IE has been miserably slow.

The Cow 09-16-11 04:38 PM

Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
 

Originally Posted by Mister Peepers (Post 10926148)
I say we do away with graphics altogether and make this a text only site. Movie covers and screenshots on reviews should all be done in ASCII.

And go black and white (or green). Perhaps we have used up our allotment of blue-ish tint.

(Yeah, today has been horribly slow, I'm using FF. I think it's getting progressively worse.)

pinata242 09-16-11 05:33 PM

Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
 
Why do people think their choice of browser has anything at all to do with the server and database infrastructure? It just confuses the issue. I'm on three different networks frequently with as many as six different browsers. It's shitty everywhere, always.

Trevor 09-16-11 06:35 PM

Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
 

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 10926459)
Why do people think their choice of browser has anything at all to do with the server and database infrastructure? It just confuses the issue. I'm on three different networks frequently with as many as six different browsers. It's shitty everywhere, always.

Well, knocking on wood here, but it's obviously a very limited problem.

I can't imagine many of you being on DVDTalk more than I, and except for minor blips early in this thread, my browsing has been rock solid fast as always. I'm on here with four or so networks, including AT&T's 3G, with multiple browsers, and it's great all the time.

So since you know stuff about networks, and I'm completely clueless, what's going on?

Cardsfan111 09-16-11 06:38 PM

Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
 
I've never experienced issues, at least not to the degree that's been mentioned over and over again in this thread.

fumanstan 09-16-11 07:21 PM

Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
 
Could be a routing issue from specific networks going to Internet Brands. Maybe location specific?

I've had issues from home and work from multiple browsers. Or maybe some people have just been lucky at the times they visit the site.

I hit the site frequently throughout the day, every day. :shrug:

pinata242 09-16-11 07:23 PM

Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
 
My point about the networks and browsers is that it shows the problem isn't on the client's end.

Networks: Cox, AT&T 3G, corporate VPN, client's corporate VPN.

Browsers: Chrome, FFX, IE (6-8), Safari, and Terra.

Devices: iPhone, iPad, Mac, HP laptop.

The Cow 09-16-11 07:27 PM

Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
 
and I still can't get the mobile version to load! ;)

Adam Tyner 09-16-11 10:00 PM

Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
 

Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 10926505)
Well, knocking on wood here, but it's obviously a very limited problem.

That it's not happening to you doesn't necessarily mean it's a very limited problem, though. I don't think any one of us have a way of knowing how widespread or limited a problem it is. It's clearly affecting more than a couple of us, though, and we're not in the same general location.

I've had numerous server disconnects and timeouts from Pittsburgh and two different networks in South Carolina, for whatever that's worth, spanning four different computers and several different pieces of software (including Lynx, so I know it's not Javascript or whatever).

It shouldn't be network-specific either. From my box in Pittsburgh:

Code:

traceroute to www.dvdtalk.com (98.158.194.154), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
 2  192.168.1.42 (192.168.1.42)  5.215 ms  0.699 ms  0.949 ms
 3  te-3-1.car1.Pittsburgh3.Level3.net (4.49.116.253)  1.913 ms  2.281 ms  2.484                                                                                                                                ms
 4  ae-11-11.car2.Pittsburgh3.Level3.net (4.69.135.246)  1.986 ms  1.813 ms  1.9                                                                                                                              55 ms
 5  ae-3-3.ebr1.Chicago1.Level3.net (4.69.135.250)  25.896 ms  24.765 ms  30.972                                                                                                                                ms
 6  ae-6-6.ebr1.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.69.140.190)  13.978 ms
    ae-1-100.ebr2.Chicago1.Level3.net (4.69.151.178)  13.800 ms
    ae-6-6.ebr1.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.69.140.190)  13.794 ms
 7  ae-5-5.ebr2.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.69.140.194)  13.787 ms
    ae-1-100.ebr2.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.69.132.114)  13.801 ms
    ae-5-5.ebr2.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.69.140.194)  13.797 ms
 8  ae-14-14.ebr1.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.151.118)  32.813 ms  32.601 ms  32.96                                                                                                                              1 ms
 9  ae-71-71.csw2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.151.137)  41.962 ms  35.793 ms
    ae-91-91.csw4.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.151.161)  32.965 ms
10  ae-83-83.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.151.158)  32.763 ms
    ae-63-63.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.151.134)  32.831 ms  32.782 ms
11  ae-3-3.ebr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.132.77)  64.445 ms  65.237 ms  64.9                                                                                                                              53 ms
12  ae-62-62.csw1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.137.18)  64.457 ms
    ae-72-72.csw2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.137.22)  64.770 ms
    ae-62-62.csw1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.137.18)  69.722 ms
13  ae-31-80.car1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.144.131)  64.768 ms
    ae-41-90.car1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.144.195)  65.108 ms
    ae-31-80.car1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.144.131)  65.248 ms
14  INTERNET-BR.car1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.59.56.162)  67.242 ms  67.792 ms                                                                                                                                67.921 ms
. . .

...and from home:
Code:

C:\Users\adam>tracert forum.dvdtalk.com

Tracing route to www.dvdtalk.com [98.158.194.154]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    8 ms    9 ms    18 ms  10.186.128.1
  2    10 ms    10 ms  118 ms  acr01ssvlsc-gbe-4-9.ssvl.sc.charter.com [96.34.66.12]
  3    11 ms    11 ms    9 ms  acr02spbgsc-tge-2-4.spbg.sc.charter.com [96.34.64.16]
  4    10 ms    9 ms    12 ms  crr02spbgsc-tge-0-3-0-1.spbg.sc.charter.com [96.34.64.55]
  5    12 ms    12 ms    17 ms  bbr02spbgsc-tge-0-1-0-6.spbg.sc.charter.com [96.34.2.108]
  6    17 ms    27 ms    13 ms  bbr01spbgsc-tge-0-0-0-2.spbg.sc.charter.com [96.34.0.42]
  7    21 ms    19 ms    19 ms  xe-11-0-0.edge3.Washington1.Level3.net [4.59.144.69]
  8    20 ms    22 ms    24 ms  vlan90.csw4.Washington1.Level3.net [4.69.149.254]
  9    20 ms    37 ms    19 ms  ae-94-94.ebr4.Washington1.Level3.net [4.69.134.189]
 10    80 ms    81 ms    90 ms  ae-4-4.ebr3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.132.81]
 11    81 ms    82 ms    82 ms  ae-93-93.csw4.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.137.46]
 12    81 ms    79 ms    87 ms  ae-41-90.car1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.144.195]
 13    84 ms    84 ms    98 ms  INTERNET-BR.car1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.59.56.162]

Those seem pretty consistent and respectable to my eyes. I can try repeatedly and will consistently get fast pings. I can FTP into DVD Talk's servers and never have even a little bit of trouble or slowdown. I do anything over HTTP, and then it slows to a crawl. I've tried doing a bunch of wgets of forum pages and stuff, and once I'm connected, the content comes through really quickly. It's waiting for the server to respond -- and hoping my connection isn't cutoff, although that hasn't been happening as much recently -- that's the bottleneck. It doesn't happen all the time, but it does happen a lot. And again, it encompasses screenshots in reviews, the review CMS tools, CSS files in the forum...anything served over the web, not just the forum and not just database-driven content.

Maybe someone just needs to restart Apache? :)

Adam Tyner 09-20-11 08:45 PM

Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
 

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 10926459)
Why do people think their choice of browser has anything at all to do with the server and database infrastructure? It just confuses the issue. I'm on three different networks frequently with as many as six different browsers. It's shitty everywhere, always.

I agree with you 100%, although I wonder if Chrome is behaving in a way that's exacerbating the problem. As a test, I unclicked "Predict network actions to improve page load performance" in Chrome, and the DVD Talk forums seem to be loading more reliably...still sluggish but not timing out. I haven't had that option removed long enough to be able to confidently say things are better, but it does seem promising.

pinata242 09-20-11 08:51 PM

Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
 
That's good to know. I may try that myself, but I'd to punish myself on every other website ;)

kd5 09-20-11 09:10 PM

Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
 
My god, the forum is slow today (slower than usual). -kd5-

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 09-21-11 09:44 AM

Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
 
I agree. While it normally happens for me at home, yesterday was slow on my network at work. That was a first for me.

Supermallet 09-22-11 12:08 PM

Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
 
Seems extra slow today.

ibobi 09-22-11 12:44 PM

Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
 
Thanks for that info, Adam -- I'll pass it along to tech.

BobO'Link 09-24-11 01:40 AM

Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
 
I thought I was having browser issues until I saw this thread. I'd chalked up the slowness the past few months to my wife doing more streaming on the home network and/or me using an older version of FF as I was having issues on quite a few sites. However, I upgraded the browser but still saw sluggishness here. For the past several weeks I've experienced frequent issues with page loads. FWIW this is with FF 6.x on 3 different systems/2 networks (1 "home" 1 "corporate"). As others have indicated I get either a partial load or it just times out. In almost all cases a page refresh corrects the issue and the page will then load. Frequently I'll start 6-10 tabs opening only to have some "hang" with others loading OK. That behavior is what made me feel it was browser related. I've not tried IE nor Chrome.

Dr_Evil 10-06-11 11:16 AM

Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
 
Very slow again for me on Chrome today.

DirkUSA 10-06-11 12:46 PM

Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
 

Originally Posted by Dr_Evil (Post 10954050)
Very slow again for me on Chrome today.

Same here with Firefox.


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