karener

Can you please guide me to the rules where it says that you can't post requests for votes?

like this thread

I don't see anywhere where this is disallowed?

It isn't as if I just popped on the board to post this. I have been a member of the board for awhile if you look at my profile. I just don't post much

Tsar Chasm

While Azteca's intentions may be honorable, enough other sites like this are e-mail address farms.

karener

Isn't that something the members should be able to decide for their selves?

Many members here have throw away email address that they wouldn't mind using even if they have reservations about Azteca.

You allow posts such as freebiz magazine which as everyone is aware is an email harvester.

karener

I looked up in the rules and I still don't see where my post would be prohibited. I only see this rule which does not apply.

It makes me feel like perhaps my post was closed simply because my title says new member.

X

We disallow anything that harvests people's email addresses. Asking for people to use multiple ones borders on fraud as well.

karener

My post did not violate that rule at all (even if that rule had been posted, which it does not appear to be). This is a legitimate business and a legitimate contest. Just check the better business bureau if you have any doubts about that.

By the logic you have posed then STL is against the rules because it asks people to sumbit their email address to a legitimate company.

Borders on fraud: There are absolutely no rules re: voting on the site. Only rules for entering the contest. It does not say one vote per person or anything even remotely to that effect.

I have no problem accepting that you don't allow the post as long as there are rules in regards to it. DVDtalks current rules do not prohibit my post. It just seems rather contrived.

Mr. Salty

DVD Talk is a privately owned and operated site, so Geoff can pretty much do what he wants, whether there is a rule about it or not. Maybe you could just accept that and move on.

X

Then it sure sounds like they're harvesting email addresses. They could more easily accomplish their implied goal of unique votes with unique IPs. We also have guidelines that are followed for the common good of our members. We are not able to list them all.

But when you are told that we don't allow something you can either accept that decision or you can appeal to Geoff at [email protected].

karener

I will move on. I just thought maybe someone would want to address the obvious double standard.

Sites like freebizmag are allowed but a legitimate local restaurant is not.

I still feel like this has more to do with the fact that I am not a member that has been here for long time then anything else. I am willing to bet $ that if someone like olddude or mysterX posted it, that it would have been allowed and supported.

The clarification of this would help me to decide if I want to continue to support DVDtalk by making sure all my DVD purchases are done through the referral links. Right now I am leaning towards supporting another site instead, since it feels like I am not a valued member of this community.

X

It's curious that you're now such a stickler for our rules, you didn't seem to care too much about the one regarding posting under multiple accounts.

karener

multiple accounts

karener

oops that was supposed to have a ?


multiple accounts?

X

MrBumpo

karener

That's my boyfriend... not me. You do know that some people have DSL and thus have the same IP right?

X

So that's your boyfriend who's trying to win the contest and not you?

karener

Yes, it seems easier to just post that I entered the contest then saying "oh my boyfriend entered the contest and I am helping him try to get votes so that he will take me on the trip with him".

Doesn't it?

X

I'm glad you cleared up that multiple account thing. Your boyfriend should send us an email if he wants his account reinstated since it was deactivated quite a while ago. That's why our rules also say

ABSOLUTELY NO:
Registering more than one account. (If you share a connection, please contact a moderator/administrator before signing up another account or BOTH will be terminated.)

karener

He didn't think it was necessary. He doesn't really have a need to post. If he finds a DVD deal he just asks me to post it.

By the way if your point was to prove that "I" broke the rules. Technically, I did not since I signed up first. It wasn't as if he asked me if I had an account here before doing so. He violated the rules not I.

Got anything else you would like to accuse me of? I really feel like I am being slammed here for no reason.

karener

Thought I should add that if your intentions are being misread perhaps you should state that. I do realize that it is hard to gauge someones tone when all you are reading is words.

I am a perfectly reasonable person.

X

I'm trying to say we have rules that are not necessarily written and we have ones that are written. In both cases we look at the circumstances involved when we try to follow them.

The "asking for people's emails to enter a contest" one isn't explicitly stated but the multiple accounts from one connection is. We do not always rely on a strict interpretation of the stated rules and we try to consider what is best for the community.

karener

I can understand that. I truely can. I am a moderator on a very busy underground webboard so I know where you are coming from.

It just seems to me that when a post is questionable to you that it would make sense to either do some research to see if it should be allowed or maybe remove the url in a pending status until the poster can prove to you that it should be allowed.

I think I would be totally capable of providing you information in order to realize that the post should be allowed.

Something for you to consider. I hope you really do.

X

The way to prove to me that it should be allowed is by your asking Geoff. We recently had a similar circumstance where emails needed to be provided and Geoff said no when I asked him.

karener

I intend to email him and ask.

I just thought I would let you know that I do appreciate you actually taking the time to discuss this with me and not just saying shut up or you will be banned like many hot head mod/admins do.

X

If I had known it would go on so long I would have preferred doing it through email. But I got sucked in and we did at least clear up another matter as well.

Good luck winning your trip to Mexico!

karener

I just sent my appeal to Geoff. Hopefully it won't take him long to reply.

In case any other administrators wish to reply I thought I would include a few similar posts that have been allowed recently.

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=377189

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=376110


http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=375898