4-letter minimum search? What the hell?
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4-letter minimum search? What the hell?
Something needs to be done about the "4-letter minimum per word" deal in the search feature. This makes it impossible to search for many movies.
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Hi, welcome to the forum. The issue here is server load. The number of hits on a 3 character search is huge compared to a min 4 characters.
I am curious, how many movies will fail a four character min search string? I can think of a couple off the top of my head.
I am curious, how many movies will fail a four character min search string? I can think of a couple off the top of my head.
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XXX & Red are two that come to mind right away. Makes it hard to search for certain TV shows, too, like 24 and Ed.
Here's a similar thread, by the way: http://dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread....ghlight=search
Here's a similar thread, by the way: http://dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread....ghlight=search
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Originally posted by Static Cling
XXX & Red are two that come to mind right away.
XXX & Red are two that come to mind right away.
XXX, I have no idea.
24 and Ed point out that even 3 letters will restrict things. But a search for anything with ed in it will cause a lot of database searching and generate a lot of results I think.
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Originally posted by RandyC
24 and Ed point out that even 3 letters will restrict things. But a search for anything with ed in it will cause a lot of database searching and generate a lot of results I think.
24 and Ed point out that even 3 letters will restrict things. But a search for anything with ed in it will cause a lot of database searching and generate a lot of results I think.
(Not sure if that's what you meant or not.)
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I had trouble with Midnight Run... just using "midnight" brings up a variety of responses!
I had trouble with Midnight Run... just using "midnight" brings up a variety of responses!
P.S. Static, yeah I was not thinking of variables, just all the uses if someone was named ed.
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Originally posted by mmguen
I had trouble with Midnight Run... just using "midnight" brings up a variety of responses!
I had trouble with Midnight Run... just using "midnight" brings up a variety of responses!
It can also help to make sure you specify a specific forum and specify a time frame if you're looking for more recent information.
X, if you click on that little search icon right over every single one of your posts, it will bring up a list of all your posts still on the board.
As is probably noted in the above linked thread (if it's the most recent discussion thread) there's also a ten character limit on words. I tried doing a search on Philadelphia for the Philadelphia Story DVD yesterday and had to go with using story hepburn stewart instead. Found a thread too.
Use as few search words as possible too.
And yes, wildcards are off, regardless of what it says on the search page.
It would be nice if the search engine could be made more flexible, but we should try to remember that this is a limitation of resources, not just because Geoff's trying to make our lives more difficult!
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Search is so jacked up you can’t believe it. In fact, you can’t believe the results, or lack of them.
As noted in this post:
Now, given that maybe a mistake was made in his search, one would expect that “Taken” would now show up in a search, n’est ce pas?? I mean, it's more than 4 and less than 10...
It don’t. Go 'head, try it.
It’s BROKE! How many times do I have to post this?
It’s broke.
As noted in this post:
Originally posted by DodgingCars
strange I did a search on Taken and it gave me no results.
strange I did a search on Taken and it gave me no results.
It don’t. Go 'head, try it.
It’s BROKE! How many times do I have to post this?
It’s broke.
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Originally posted by Wizdar
It’s BROKE! How many times do I have to post this?
It’s BROKE! How many times do I have to post this?
Perhaps if Geoff were to rebuild the keyword index, that would help matters, but that would drag the site down to a crawl while doing so.
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We've read your posts, Wizdar... well, at least I have. I've had some trouble searching for certain words as well. Geoff's a busy guy... maybe you could drop him an e-mail about the problem. He's more likely to see that than a post on the forum.
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Originally posted by ctyner
Out of curiosity, what do you want Geoff to do?
Out of curiosity, what do you want Geoff to do?
When I see mods and admins just as confused as me...
And thanks for the grammer lesson.
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Originally posted by Wizdar
Well, that's not any more helpful than my comment(s), is it?
Well, that's not any more helpful than my comment(s), is it?
And thanks for the grammer lesson.
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I think ctyner's point is very apt. The issue of restricting the search to n characters is a dvdtalk option and intended to deal with server load issues. The issue of the search software not working is not a dvdtalk issue and is a Vbb issue.
And since Ver 3.0 is now in beta and coming soon, I think the real answer is to work around the software and do the best we can until ver 3 is installed.
And since Ver 3.0 is now in beta and coming soon, I think the real answer is to work around the software and do the best we can until ver 3 is installed.
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Originally posted by ctyner
I thought I did a relatively decent job explaining the situation. At least if you didn't know where things stood before, you do now.
I thought I did a relatively decent job explaining the situation. At least if you didn't know where things stood before, you do now.
First, I think it’s quite rude to constantly correct one’s spelling and grammar. Peroid. Arrogance seems to me to be nonproductive.
Second, discussing the differences between v.X.x and v.Y.x is only useful if one knows what those differences are. Just how many folks are fully versed in the workings of vBulletin, or whatever the software involved is? If we were that knowledgeable, there wouldn’t be a discussion.
Perhaps you could explain why a common word like “taken” yields no results whereas “geof*” (asterisk NOT wildcard) will provide results. Is “geof*” on that keyword list? How did it get there?
I suppose you could call it a threadcrap, if you want to continue to be combative about this. But it still remains that there are problems, and helping us to understand how to get around them could be a better use of space.
Or, maybe I should start a new thread for that purpose?
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Originally posted by Wizdar
Well, I already knew where I stood. But it doesn’t help my lack of understanding.
Well, I already knew where I stood. But it doesn’t help my lack of understanding.
First, I think it’s quite rude to constantly correct one’s spelling and grammar. Peroid.
Second, discussing the differences between v.X.x and v.Y.x is only useful if one knows what those differences are.
Perhaps you could explain why a common word like “taken” yields no results whereas “geof*” (asterisk NOT wildcard) will provide results. Is “geof*” on that keyword list? How did it get there?
But it still remains that there are problems, and helping us to understand how to get around them could be a better use of space.
If you have complaints about vBulletin's search functionality, a more effective place to do so would be at http://www.vbulletin.com/