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Old 10-01-02 | 08:39 PM
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shill Pronunciation Key (shl) Slang
n.
One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gambler to dupe bystanders into participating in a swindle.

v. shilled, shill·ing, shills
v. intr.
To act as a shill.

v. tr.
To act as a shill for <b>(a deceitful enterprise)</b>.
To lure (a person) into a swindle.
Old 10-04-02 | 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by Breakfast with Girls

v. shilled, shill·ing, shills
v. intr.
To act as a shill.
So of course I had to try out http://www.shill.com! It has nothing to do with shilling but it sure is funny!

By the way, can I mention that sometimes traditional advertising is very effective, for example that "dvdovernight" right-side banner that appears in DVD reviews here. I think I've clicked on it about ten million times.
Old 10-05-02 | 04:13 PM
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Jah-Wren Ryel seems to have a good idea here:

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...6&pagenumber=2

ie, write it into the membership agreement that they open themselves up to a lawsuit if they shill.
Old 10-05-02 | 04:25 PM
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Sue?!?

What is the damages that Kleinman.com suffers? How do you quantify?

And also, fighting with a movie studio is ok, I guess. But going to war (suing) is not smart in the entertainment industry, I would assume.
Old 10-05-02 | 05:11 PM
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This might be a stretch, but Kleinman.com makes its money form us users using his site right? We users like his site because we can find out new info about disks, and how they are received by other users of the site. When you have people from a company come to the site and post things that do nothing but makes their releases look great this site will lose some of the respect that it has because we users do not know if it is a real post by a person, or some "advertisement". That is the problem with the whole thing. I want real views of a disk, not to be fed some line from a corp. If I have to go to some other site to get this info kleinman.com loses.
Old 10-05-02 | 06:05 PM
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I agree - sue! This is like the fake movie review quotes.

Hmm -- I think it's a federal crime using the internet to try to defraud the public into buying Paramount/Earthlink service. Sounds like wire fraud to me. Tell Paramount that if they don't make it up to the management and the users we may have to consider going to court. Can you say "punitive damages and public embarrassment"? I thought you could.

A couple of free DVDs per registered user might be a fair settlement.

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Old 10-06-02 | 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by Trinitron
I agree - sue! This is like the fake movie review quotes.

Hmm -- I think it's a federal crime using the internet to try to defraud the public into buying Paramount/Earthlink service. Sounds like wire fraud to me. Tell Paramount that if they don't make it up to the management and the users we may have to consider going to court. Can you say "punitive damages and public embarrassment"? I thought you could.

A couple of free DVDs per registered user might be a fair settlement.
I'd settle for them not charging SE prices for barebones discs.
Old 10-07-02 | 05:37 AM
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Originally posted by tjr2mental
This might be a stretch, but Kleinman.com makes its money form us users using his site right? We users like his site because we can find out new info about disks, and how they are received by other users of the site. When you have people from a company come to the site and post things that do nothing but makes their releases look great this site will lose some of the respect that it has because we users do not know if it is a real post by a person, or some "advertisement". That is the problem with the whole thing. I want real views of a disk, not to be fed some line from a corp. If I have to go to some other site to get this info kleinman.com loses.
it's not to hard to find out if they are just shilling or if they are legit. let me explain, My name is jackskeleton.. now what if you see my status as new member and you read my post as followed:

Hey gang, I don't know much about dvd's, but I do know that I love nightmare before christmas. Man this movie rocks so much!!!!11 I can't wait to go to disneyland to see there new attraction why don't you guys check it out at www.disney.com!!!! tell me what you think and all, I'm taking all my Cool friends!



Now, wasn't that a bit obvious? these guys are making it too easy for the big G to pick off. they are just asking for trouble, they should have the guts to advertise the right way.
Old 10-07-02 | 07:54 AM
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Jack I think you need to reread tjr2mentals post.
Old 10-07-02 | 02:15 PM
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The sad thing Jack is I would expect you to say somthing like that relating to The Nightmare Before Christmas.
Old 10-08-02 | 01:24 AM
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Jack I think you need to reread tjr2mentals post.
Jack doesn't read posts, he scans the first 3 words (like I do most the time). For example, his reply to your post will most like be "I think too, but that doesn't make you a genieous joltaddict."

Old 10-08-02 | 02:38 AM
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Oh come now, I atleast make some sense.. Well I hope I do.
Old 10-08-02 | 08:24 AM
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Originally posted by Jackskeleton
Hey gang, I don't know much about dvd's, but I do know that I love nightmare before christmas. Man this movie rocks so much!!!!11 I can't wait to go to disneyland to see there new attraction why don't you guys check it out at www.disney.com!!!! tell me what you think and all, I'm taking all my Cool friends!
Jack's a stealth marketer. He's got to be. His post count isn't due to pads, it's because he's been shilling for the man all this time. Burn the heretic.
Old 10-08-02 | 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by Jackskeleton
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Turn that FROWN upside DOWN!
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I just meant you were arguing with him but his post was actually agreeing with you.

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