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Old 07-21-19, 08:29 PM
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The 10th Annual Animation Challenge Discussion Thread!

The 10th Annual Animation Challenge Discussion Thread
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List thread is here.

The Details

Challenge starts July 31st at 12:01 am local time.

Challenge ends September 1st at dawn.

Rules

Movies/TV shows should be labeled Animation from either imdb.com or allmovie.com. Other labels don't matter as long as there is at least a Animation label from one of those sites. Action/Animation would be fine.

This is the challenge where any and all types of animation is welcome, computer, hand drawn, puppetry, stop motion, etc. The entire movie/show does not need to be completely animated. Something like Roger Rabbit or a Ray Harryhausen film would generally be allowed.

If anyone has a problem with something someone watches or just wants an opinion on if it's animation or not, ask here.

Animation documentaries are allowed but not DVD featurettes/interviews that are just fluff promo pieces.

As with the other challenges, the lists must be numbered or it won't count.

Watching the movie/show with the commentary can counted as unique items.

Watching multiple versions(theatrical and director's cut) of the same movie/show will also count.

Lists

Since the general consensus seems to be for the easy counting method we will go with that. However, it is not required, so if you wish to count another way, feel free, as I will not be doing stats.

How to win

Names will be randomly selected from http://www.random.org/lists/ The top people, one prize per person, get something. Unfortunately, prizes can only go to people who live in the States.

Sponsors:TBD

Checklist:

Spoiler:
Official Checklist:

*one wildcard is allowed

Watch works from 7 different studios:

--- Depatie-Freleng -
--- Disney -
--- Dreamworks Animation -
--- Famous Studios -
--- Filmation -
--- Fleischer Studios -
--- MGM Cartoon Studio -
--- Paramount -
--- Pixar -
--- Rankin/Bass -
--- Screen Gems -
--- Studio Ghibli -
--- UPA -
--- Warner Bros -

Watch works from 8 different directors:

--- Tex Avery -
--- Don Bluth -
--- Bob Clampett -
--- Gene Deitch -
--- Friz Freleng -
--- Hanna & Barbera -
--- John and Faith Hubley -
--- Chuck Jones -
--- Satoshi Kon -
--- John Kricfalusi -
--- Peter Lord -
--- Hayao Miyazaki -
--- Nick Park -
--- Brothers Quay -
--- Frank Tashlin -
--- Bruce W. Timm -

Watch 12 different actors/actresses:
--- Ed Asner -
--- Jim Backus -
--- Mel Blanc -
--- Clancy Brown -
--- Daws Butler -
--- Nancy Cartwright -
--- Dan Castellaneta -
--- Hans Conried -
--- Peter Cullen -
--- Jim Cummings -
--- Dom DeLuise -
--- Bill Fagerbakke -
--- June Foray -
--- Paul Frees -
--- Brad Garrett -
--- Mark Hamill -
--- Megumi Hayashibara -
--- Edward Everett Horton -
--- Kelly Hu -
--- Tom Kenny -
--- Maurice LaMarche -
--- Andrea Martin -
--- Don Messick -
--- Ron Perlman -
--- Tara Strong -
--- Alan Tudyk -
--- Frank Welker -
--- Billy West -

Watch 7 Winsor McKay Award Winners from the Annie Awards:

--- Tex Avery -
--- Ralph Bakshi
--- Mel Blanc -
--- Don Bluth -
--- Tim Burton -
--- Walt Disney -
--- Max & Dave Fleischer -
--- Fritz Freleng -
--- Matt Groenig -
--- Bill Hanna & William Barbera -
--- Ray Harryhausen -
--- Sterling Holloway (actor) -
--- Chuck Jones -
--- Mike Judge -
--- Ub Iwerks -
--- John Lasseter -
--- Wolfgang Reitherman -
--- Genndy Tartakovsky -
--- Bruce Timm -

From iCheckMovies:

Watch 2 short films from Annecy Festival's 100 Films for a Century of Animation
--- Film 1
--- Film 2

Watch 2 short films from ASIFA's Top 50 Animated Short Films
--- Film 1
--- Film 2

Watch 2 animated films from Golden 100 of Russian Animation
--- Film 1
--- Film 2

Watch 2 films from Filmspotting Top 100 Animated Films
--- Film 1
--- Film 2

Watch 2 Annie Awards Best Animated Feature winners
--- Film 1
--- Film 2

Watch 2 films from Japan Academy Awards' Excellent Animations list
--- Film 1
--- Film 2

Watch 2 films from The Animated Movie Guide: Top 60 Animated Features Never Theatrically Released in the United States (from Jerry Beck's book The Animated Movie Guide)
--- Film 1 -
--- Film 2 -

Watch animation from at least 9 different decades:
--- 1900 -
--- 1910 -
--- 1920 -
--- 1930 -
--- 1940 -
--- 1950 -
--- 1960 -
--- 1970 -
--- 1980 -
--- 1990 -
--- 2000 -
--- 2010 -

Watch animation from at least two languages other than English:
--- First language -
--- Second language -

Watch animation from at least 4 different ratings:
--- G -
--- PG -
--- PG-13 -
--- R -
--- NC-17 / X -
--- Unrated -

Watch animation from at least 6 of these categories:
--- Watch an anime movie or series -
--- Watch a US kid's show that originally aired on Sat mornings -
--- Puppet show -
--- Mostly or all CGI -
--- Watch 90+ minutes worth of shorts (i.e Tom and Jerry, Bugs Bunny) -
--- Cartoon based on a newspaper comic strip -
--- Motion Comic -
--- Watch an animated movie that spawned a TV spin-off OR an animated movie that was based on an animated TV show -
--- Watch a work of animated non-fiction [i.e., Waltz with Bashir, etc.] -
--- Watch an Academy Award Best Animated Feature winner -
--- Watch an Academy Award Best Short Subject (Cartoon)/Animated Short winner -
--- Watch a Saturn Award for Best Animation Film winner - Film 1
(Winners for 2015: Inside Out; 2016: Finding Dory; 2017: Coco; 2018: Not being announced until Sept.)

Watch animation from at least 6 different genres:
--- Action -
--- Adventure -
--- Comedy -
--- Crime -
--- Drama -
--- Fantasy -
--- Horror -
--- Mystery -
--- Romance -
--- Science Fiction -
--- War -
--- Western -

Need help with cartoons from a newspaper comic strip?

Spoiler:
Alley Oop
Baby Blues
Barney Google
Barney Google and Snuffy Smith
B.C.
Beatle Bailey
Blondie
Bloom County/Opus/Outland
The Boondocks
Broom Hilda
The Captain and the Kids (aka, The Katzenjammer Kids)
Cathy
Dennis the Menace
Dick Tracy
Dilbert
Doonsbury
Dream of the Rarebit Fiend
The Dropouts
Emmy Lou
The Family Circus
The Far Side
Flash Gordon
For Better or For Worse
Fred Basset
Garfield
Girls & Sports
Hagar the Horrible
Heathcliff
Hejji
Henry
Krazy Kat
Life in Hell
Li'l Abner
Little Jimmy
The Little King
Little Lulu
Little Nemo in Slumberland
Mandrake the Magician
Marmaduke
Moon Mullins
Mother Goose and Grimm
Mutt and Jeff
Nancy
Over the Hedge (CGI)
Ox Tales
Peanuts
The Phantom
Pogo
Popeye
Prince Valiant
Reg'lar Fellers
Ripley's Believe It or Not!
Rupert Bear
Scamp
Smokey Stover
Snafu
Tarzan
Toonerville Folks (aka, Toonerville Trolley)
Tumbleweeds
Wee Pals (aka, Kid Power)
Ziggy


Easy access links to the iCheckMovies part of the checklist. Thanks coyoteblue!


Criterion Crossover: Since there are so few, I decided to post those movies that qualify for double credit for both challenges. They are: Akira, Fantastic Planet, Fantastic Mr. Fox, and Watership Down, Jason And The Argonauts, King Kong, Robocop. Also, there is animation in the By Brakhage and Science is Fiction box sets. Also, Jellyfish Eyes, King of Jazz and the Eclipse set, Dusan Makavejev: Free Radical could count as well.

2018's Thread

Suggestions for 2020:
Spoiler:
Need to add new decade to the year list. Voice actor suggestion: Kath Soucie, genres: add family and musicals?

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Re: The 10th Annual Animation Challenge Discussion Thread!

Please take a look at the check list. I alphabetized the sections and changed some of the requirements. I also added Pixar to the studios list and two new names to the actors list (Messick and Garrett).

There is also my thought from last year: I thinking of moving the stand alone list item, Watch a Saturn Award for Best Animation Film winner, down to the 4 stand alones (watch an animated non-fiction movie, Academy Award Short film, watch something that had a tv spinoff (or vice versa) and watch an Academy Award animated film) and make all 5 of them watch 3 out of 5.

OR I could move all 5 of those to the other one of those (with watching an anime/puppet show/etc...) and just make it one big section. So Saturn Award winner, the 4 stand alones and the other short list of options (anime/puppet show).

Thoughts on this?
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Looking forward to this!

I don't find anything wrong with the checklist.
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Looking forward to this!

I don't find anything wrong with the checklist.
Me too! Waiting until the end to break open my set of Jonny Quest that will count for both that last day.

Thanks for looking at the checklist, do you have an opinion on merging those sections?
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Me too! Waiting until the end to break open my set of Jonny Quest that will count for both that last day.

Thanks for looking at the checklist, do you have an opinion on merging those sections?
My suggestion will be to do this:

I could move all 5 of those to the other one of those (with watching an anime/puppet show/etc...) and just make it one big section. So Saturn Award winner, the 4 stand alones and the other short list of options (anime/puppet show).
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I'm debating whether to watch Dragonball Z: Dragon Boxes as I have the complete set or to start with Thundercats or He-Man. I will continue to watch Detective Conan from last year challenge.

Decisions, Decisions...
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I might start watching cartoons early, as I have quite a few sci fi and fantasy animated series and movies.
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My suggestion will be to do this:
Thanks for the feedback, anyone else with suggestions or comments?

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I'm debating whether to watch Dragonball Z: Dragon Boxes as I have the complete set or to start with Thundercats or He-Man. I will continue to watch Detective Conan from last year challenge.

Decisions, Decisions...
Or watch 'em all. Rotate through so you don't burn out? I've had that happen, where I like a show, but after sitting down and watching 20-30 episodes in a row, I'm just ready to stop. But if I alternate between discs (so more 3-4 episodes) then it's not so bad.

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I might start watching cartoons early, as I have quite a few sci fi and fantasy animated series and movies.
Never hurts to start early!
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I think I will start this off with A Goofy Movie... been holding onto the bluray waiting for this challenge.
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I'm always glad to see some additions to the studios and actors list. I like the current checklist but I'm open to any changes that are made.
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Re: The 10th Annual Animation Challenge Discussion Thread!

This was a suggestion over on the Sci-Fi/Fantasy challenge, but does anyone have any comments/feelings about adding Peter Cullen to the voice actor list?
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This was a suggestion over on the Sci-Fi/Fantasy challenge, but does anyone have any comments/feelings about adding Peter Cullen to the voice actor list?
Based on his resume, he should have been on it years ago.
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Based on his resume, he should have been on it years ago.
Adding if no one else chimes in before tomorrow afternoon. Will be finalizing the list tomorrow night. Last chance for a voice in the checklist!
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First day of the challenge has arrived! I hope everyone is enjoying their first watches!

The checklist is finalized. Make sure you are using the updated version. The one in this thread was updated but the list thread was only updated a few minutes ago.

Prize update: I've contacted GoldenWheels about prizes a while ago, but so far haven't heard back. Will update when I get more information!

Enjoy the challenge, everyone!
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I started in the middle of the night when I woke up with the first episode of a documentary series on prehistoric animals. I like to take advantage of this Challenge to watch cgi movies and tv shows as well as other kinds of animation.
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I just came back from the cottage and didn't have time to start anything yet. I'll probably watch a episode or two of the latest Detective Conan episodes on Crunchyroll.
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After a very long time, I watched Vampire Hunter D tonight. I loved it the first time I saw it but rewatching it, I don’t think it holds up as well.
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I started in the middle of the night when I woke up with the first episode of a documentary series on prehistoric animals. I like to take advantage of this Challenge to watch cgi movies and tv shows as well as other kinds of animation.
Just make sure that it's more CGI than regular live action! Or maybe at least 40%. It is the animation challenge after all!

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After a very long time, I watched Vampire Hunter D tonight. I loved it the first time I saw it but rewatching it, I donít think it holds up as well.
I hate when that happens. Something you grew up with doesn't age well or now you're in a different mind set than you were originally. There's one or two films/TV shows I wish I hadn't rewatched as now they're a bit tainted.

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Um LJG, could you look at orlmac's list in the list thread. It kept reverting to like this in the Science Fiction list thread but only when I hit edit. Now it's all bolloxed up without hitting edit. Could you (or anyone else) tell me what to do to stop this from happening (and hopefully fix it right now). Thanks!
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Um LJG, could you look at orlmac's list in the list thread. It kept reverting to like this in the Science Fiction list thread but only when I hit edit. Now it's all bolloxed up without hitting edit. Could you (or anyone else) tell me what to do to stop this from happening (and hopefully fix it right now). Thanks!
Hmm. Looks like somehow the source button got turned on but didn't turn itself off. Weird. I'm coming up with only a couple suggestions. You used to be able to revert to an older save point. Is that still an option? Or trying to delete all the extra code you don't need (<>). Typing that, I think that's the problem. All the < should be [, right? Maybe switching them would fix the problem?

It's pretty early in the challenge, could you just start over? Delete everything that's there and re-enter your watches/checklist? A pain, but do-able.

My final suggestion is try to get a hold of a mod. See if there is a way for them to fix it on their end? I haven't seen this glitch here before so not sure what would have caused it...

Sorry! I hope something I mentioned ends up helping!
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Um LJG, could you look at orlmac's list in the list thread. It kept reverting to like this in the Science Fiction list thread but only when I hit edit. Now it's all bolloxed up without hitting edit. Could you (or anyone else) tell me what to do to stop this from happening (and hopefully fix it right now). Thanks!
Sent you a PM with corrected text. Just copy and paste the text into your editor and click Save. I checked it with Preview and it looked good, but if your editor is on the fritz it may still garble it. (I could only access what was visible).
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Sent you a PM with corrected text. Just copy and paste the text into your editor and click Save. I checked it with Preview and it looked good, but if your editor is on the fritz it may still garble it. (I could only access what was visible).
Thanks, coyoteblue! My version that I saw was pretty garbled. I had hoped that I still had a clean version but I had already refreshed it after it went wonky.
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After a very long time, I watched Vampire Hunter D tonight. I loved it the first time I saw it but rewatching it, I donít think it holds up as well.
The English dub which I saw first is quaint but I enjoy it more in Japanese with subtitles. Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust is the one I struggle rewatching... "Charlotte, Charlotte, I love you..."
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Most of the editors are pretty horrible on a browser - even the recommended, supported, one breaks things horribly (that would be the "Enhanced Interface - Full CKEditor editing" one).

Here are the choices:

Basic Editor - A simple text box
Standard Editor - Extra formatting controls
Enhanced Interface - Full WYSIWYG editing
Enhanced Interface - Full CKEditor editing

I've found only the "Standard Editor - Extra formatting controls" works well and still allows "old style" formatting of posts without adding the junk that messes things up royally. The main drawback is often you get a smallish box that can't be stretched horizontally but can go vertical as far as you want. That normally happens with quoting a post *or* editing an existing post *if* the page hasn't been reloaded recently. If you're editing your list you should reload the page first then select "Edit" and you'll get a box like the one before they messed up the site with the "New improved layout" junk and broke the editors.

The editor is changed in the "User CP" - "Options" section.
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Hmm. Looks like somehow the source button got turned on but didn't turn itself off. Weird. I'm coming up with only a couple suggestions. You used to be able to revert to an older save point. Is that still an option? Or trying to delete all the extra code you don't need (<>). Typing that, I think that's the problem. All the < should be [, right? Maybe switching them would fix the problem?

It's pretty early in the challenge, could you just start over? Delete everything that's there and re-enter your watches/checklist? A pain, but do-able.

My final suggestion is try to get a hold of a mod. See if there is a way for them to fix it on their end? I haven't seen this glitch here before so not sure what would have caused it...

Sorry! I hope something I mentioned ends up helping!
Yeah, this is a big help, it will give me some things to try when it happens again. It's been happening constantly for about 2 weeks so I expect it will again. Thanks!
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