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shadokitty 08-21-19 11:02 AM
Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 15: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)
 
That’s a great list. It has got me thinking about watching horror already

rbrown498 08-21-19 11:14 AM
Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 15: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)
 
Originally Posted by Undeadcow (Post 13596074)
Interesting list Viewaskewbian; solid choices. Thanks for sharing.
I wonder about the new Pennywise / 'It' franchise and how emblematic that will be of 2010s horror; or the new Halloween since those both seem like rehashes to me but I'm not sure what I would put in 2010s instead. Maybe Hereditary, The VVitch, Train to Busan, or Insidious stand out as unique forces in horror film.
Cool list with some food for thought.
I think that you've hit upon the main appeal of lists like this, Cow; invariably, the reader thinks, "Ah, but I would have swapped..." and then proceeds to mentally reconfigure the list.

If I were to come up with my own list, it would probably share 75-80 titles with ViewAskewbian's list . That's a pretty good percentage. I wonder if, however, a younger (say, under 30 years old) horror movie fan's list would look entirely different? I feel pretty sure that it would.

Now I really do want to come up with my own list.

Darth Maher 08-21-19 11:35 AM
Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 15: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)
 
Originally Posted by ViewAskewbian (Post 13595870)
So, for the first time in my many years of doing this, I have compiled my list on something I've wanted to do since year one. Basically, if I had to look through the history of horror films and pick only 100 that would best explain the genre, cover multiple aspects,themes, fears, monsters, etc. while making sure each decade is pretty well covered. After giving it a good think here is what I think my list is going to be: (insert list here)
Is this list also on Letterboxd, iCheckMovies, or IMDB? It would be great to "check" these off to keep track of what I HAVEN'T seen.

ViewAskewbian 08-21-19 01:50 PM
Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 15: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)
 
Originally Posted by Undeadcow (Post 13596074)
Interesting list Viewaskewbian; solid choices. Thanks for sharing.
I wonder about the new Pennywise / 'It' franchise and how emblematic that will be of 2010s horror; or the new Halloween since those both seem like rehashes to me but I'm not sure what I would put in 2010s instead. Maybe Hereditary, The VVitch, Train to Busan, or Insidious stand out as unique forces in horror film.
Cool list with some food for thought.
Yeah, took a lot of thought, really. I tossed IT in there because it was hugely popular and brought Stephen King back to the forefront and tossed Halloween in there because, to be 100% honest, I've watched a Halloween flick on the last day of this challenge since Day 1 and seemed a perfect way to cap off History of Horror on that date. :p

ViewAskewbian 08-21-19 01:52 PM
Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 15: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)
 
Yeah, I'd totally be interested in what others would put as their History of Horror in 100 films. My goal was to at least give each decade 10 flicks though certain years merited 1 or 2 more because it was hard to cut. I also didn't want to give one filmmaker or genre too much of a spotlight but still cover vampires, monsters, serial killers, slasher, etc. while also being able to bring in some flicks that tossed the genre on it's head like Shaun of the Dead, Cabin in the Woods, etc.

it was fun looking at flicks from all decades and really figuring out what might be essential while trying to also bypass my own personal favorites because, if I did that, Monster Squad totally would have been in the 80s :p

orlmac 08-21-19 03:19 PM
Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 15: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)
 
Eraserhead looks like a good suggestion for the Criterion film.

orlmac 08-21-19 03:30 PM
Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 15: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)
 
The White Dog is also a movie that would definitely fit for the Criterion film.

Chad 08-21-19 07:46 PM
Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 15: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)
 
Originally Posted by rbrown498 (Post 13596016)
I can only assume that those of you who are suggesting The Uncanny as a subset pick have never actually SEEN The Uncanny.

There's a good reason that it never got a theatrical release in the US.
As the first person to suggest it as a backup pick, I can say you're 100% correct - never seen it. I confused it with Uninvited and just kept it up. That said, can't blame someone for thinking an anthology with Peter Cushing, Donald Pleasence, and Ray Milland is worth checking out. :shrug:

DaveyJoe 08-21-19 07:49 PM
Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 15: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)
 
Oh man, I also thought people were choosing The Uninvited, a really fun, terrible, and hilarious B-flick about a killer cat.

Chad 08-21-19 08:08 PM
Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 15: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)
 
^Now I might have to go with that for my main subset pick. I'll come clean and admit Viy is the only pick from my subset suggestions I've actually seen. All the others are taken from Blus in my to-watch pile.

Originally Posted by Mondo Kane (Post 13595387)
Comedy-Hell Baby

Originally Posted by WillieMLF (Post 13595519)
The Criterion Collection Crossover – Pan’s Labyrinth, Godzilla

Originally Posted by mallratcal (Post 13595716)
The Criterion Collection Crossover - Videodrome

Originally Posted by numbercrunch (Post 13595834)
Criterion Crossover - Eraserhead
Horror Comedies - The Frighteners

Originally Posted by PCBreakdown (Post 13595914)
Criterion - The Blob (1958)
Horror Comedy - The 'Burbs (1989) - Amazon Prime, Hulu

Originally Posted by orlmac (Post 13596207)
Eraserhead looks like a good suggestion for the Criterion film.

Originally Posted by orlmac (Post 13596212)
The White Dog is also a movie that would definitely fit for the Criterion film.
Added everything to the bottom of post 9.

Chad 08-21-19 08:09 PM
Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 15: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)
 
Originally Posted by Shack (Post 13596086)
I'm always late joining this thread. Happy Challenge 15!

I'll be glad to take a Subset pick. I'll spend some time perusing the thread, but in the meantime sign me up.
Much appreciated! That brings us down to 7 subset volunteers needed.

rbrown498 08-21-19 08:12 PM
Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 15: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)
 
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 13596328)
As the first person to suggest it as a backup pick, I can say you're 100% correct - never seen it. I confused it with Uninvited and just kept it up. That said, can't blame someone for thinking an anthology with Peter Cushing, Donald Pleasence, and Ray Milland is worth checking out. :shrug:
No, that cast (and its bitchin' cool VHS cover art) suck(er)ed me in too, so I totally understand the curiosity aspect. But as a cat person (as in, "I prefer cats to dogs," not as in, "I change into a werepanther when sexually aroused"), I found the film to be completely ludicrous. However, if you've got some sort of cat phobia, it may work for you.

WillieMLF 08-22-19 07:38 AM
Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 15: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)
 
Originally Posted by rbrown498 (Post 13596349)
No, that cast (and its bitchin' cool VHS cover art) suck(er)ed me in too, so I totally understand the curiosity aspect. But as a cat person (as in, "I prefer cats to dogs," not as in, "I change into a werepanther when sexually aroused"), I found the film to be completely ludicrous. However, if you've got some sort of cat phobia, it may work for you.
I can't honestly say I've ever been livid with myself for getting suckered into a VS disk. To this day, my wife will still bring up this scene:
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...0c72db7ae8.jpg

ViewAskewbian 08-22-19 10:55 AM
Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 15: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)
 
Originally Posted by WillieMLF (Post 13596497)
I can't honestly say I've ever been livid with myself for getting suckered into a VS disk. To this day, my wife will still bring up this scene:
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...0c72db7ae8.jpg
LOL

THE MST3K of this is genius.

Undeadcow 08-22-19 01:58 PM
Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 15: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)
 
Originally Posted by ViewAskewbian (Post 13595870)
So, for the first time in my many years of doing this, I have compiled my list on something I've wanted to do since year one. Basically, if I had to look through the history of horror films and pick only 100 that would best explain the genre, cover multiple aspects,themes, fears, monsters, etc. while making sure each decade is pretty well covered. After giving it a good think here is what I think my list is going to be:
Spoiler:

1800s-1929

1. Le Manoir du Diable (1896)

2. Frankenstein (1910)

3. Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1920)

4. The Golem: Or How He Came Into the World (1920)

5. Nosferatu (1922)

6. Häxan (1922)

7. The Phantom of the Opera (1925)

8. Faust (1926)

9. The Cat and the Canary (1927)

1930s

10. M (1930)

11. Dracula (1931)

12. Frankenstein (1931)

13.Dr. Jekyll and Mr Hyde (1931)

14. Freaks (1932)

15. The Old Dark House (1932)

16. The Mummy (1932)

17. The Invisible Man (1933)

18. King Kong (1933)

19. The Black Cat (1934)

20. Bride of Frankenstein (1935)

21.The Hunchback of Notre Dame (1939)

1940s

22. The Wolf Man (1941)

23. Cat People (1942)

24. I Walked With a Zombie (1943)

25. The Body Snatcher (1945)

26. Dead of Night (1945)

27. The Picture of Dorian Gray (1945)

28. The Spiral Staircase (1946)

29. Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein (1948)

1950s

30. The Thing from Another World (1951)

31. House of Wax (1953)

32. Gojira (1954)

33. Creature from the Black Lagoon (1954)

34. Les Diaboliques (1955)

35. Night of the Hunter (1955)

36. Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956)

37. The Blob (1958)

38. Dracula (1958)

39. A Bucket of Blood (1959)

40. House on Haunted Hill (1959)

1960s

41. Black Sunday (1960)

42. Eyes Without a Face (1960)

43. Psycho (1960)

44. Peeping Tom (1960)

45. The Innocents (1961)

46. Carnival of Souls (1962_

47. The Brids (1963)

48. The Haunting (1963)

49. Blood Feast (1965)

50. Night of the Living Dead (1968)

51. Rosemary’s Baby (1968)

1970s

52. The Exorcist (1973)

53. Don’t Look Now (1973)

54.The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974)

55. Black Christmas (1974)

56. Jaws (1975)

57. The Rocky Horror Picture Show (1975)

58. The Omen (1976)

59. Susperia (1977)

60. Carrie (1976)

61. Dawn of the Dead (1978)

62. Halloween (1978)

63. Alien (1979)

1980s

64. The Shinning (1980)

65. Friday the 13th (1980)

66. The Changeling (1980)

67. An American Werewolf in London (1981)

68. The Evil Dead (1981)

69. Poltergeist (1982)

70. The Thing (1982)

71. Videodrome (1983)

72. A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984)

73. Re-Animator (1985)

74. Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (1986)

75. Hellraiser (1987)

76. Child’s Play (1988)

1990s

77. Jacob’s Ladder (1990)

78. The Silence of the Lambs (1991)

79. Braindead (1992)

80. Candyman (1992)

81. Seven (1995)

82. Scream (1996)

83. Ringu (1998)

84. Audition (1999)

85. The Sixth Sense (1999)

86. The Blair Witch Project (1999)

2000s

87. 28 Days Later (2003)

88. Saw (2004)

89. Shaun of the Dead (2004)

90. Pan’s Labyrinth (2006)

91. Trick ‘r Treat (2007)

92. Cloverfield (2008)

93. Let the Right One In (2008)

2010s

94. The Cabin in the Woods (2012)

95. The Conjuring (2013)

96. What We Do In the Shadows (2014)

97. The Babadook (2014)

98. Get Out (2017)

99. It (2017)

100. Halloween (2018)
Originally Posted by ViewAskewbian (Post 13596173)
Yeah, I'd totally be interested in what others would put as their History of Horror in 100 films. My goal was to at least give each decade 10 flicks though certain years merited 1 or 2 more because it was hard to cut. I also didn't want to give one filmmaker or genre too much of a spotlight but still cover vampires, monsters, serial killers, slasher, etc. while also being able to bring in some flicks that tossed the genre on it's head like Shaun of the Dead, Cabin in the Woods, etc.

it was fun looking at flicks from all decades and really figuring out what might be essential while trying to also bypass my own personal favorites because, if I did that, Monster Squad totally would have been in the 80s :p
The '100 films in horror history' is a cool idea, I had some time at work so gave it a try myself.* There's no escaping personal bias/preference so I didn't restrain myself as much as I could have - turns out I'm a bigger fan of 1970s horror than I thought.

Spoiler:
1920s
1.****** The Cabinet of Dr Caligari (1920)
2.****** Nosferatu (1922)
3.****** Cat and Canary (1927)

1930s
4.****** Frankenstein (1931)
5.****** Dracula (1931)
6.****** Island of Lost Souls (1932)
7.****** The Most Dangerous Game (1932)
8.****** King Kong (1933)

1940s
9.****** The Wolf Man (1941)
10.** Cat People (1942)
11.** Dead of Night (1945)
12.** Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein (1948)

1950s
13.** House of Wax (1953)
14.** Creature from the Black Lagoon (1954)
15.** Night of the Hunter (1955)
16.** The Quartermass Experiment (1955)
17.** Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956)
18.** The Curse of Frankenstein (1957)
19.** Horror of Dracula (1958)
20.** Night of the Demon (1957)
21.** The Blob (1958)
22.** House on Haunted Hill (1959)

1960s
23.** Psycho (1960)
24.** Mill of the Stone Woman (1960)
25.** Eyes Without a Face (1960)
26.** Peeping Tom (1960)
27.** House of Usher (1960)
28.** The Brain That Wouldn’t Die (1962)
29.** Carnival of Souls (1962)
30.** Burn Witch Burn (1962)
31.** The Haunting (1963)
32.** Blood Feast (1963)
33.** Onibaba (1964)
34.** Spider Baby (1967)
35.** The Mark of the Wolf Man (1968)
36.** Night of the Living Dead (1968)
37.** Rosemary’s Baby (1968)

1970s
38.** Bay of Blood (1971)
39.** Shiver of the Vampire (1971)
40.** The Wicker Man (1973)
41.** The Exorcist (1973)
42.** Legend of Hell House (1973)
43.** Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974)
44.** Deep Red (1975)
45.** Jaws (1975)
46.** Female Vampire (1975)
47.** Carrie (1976)
48.** The Omen (1976)
49.** Suspiria (1977)
50.** I Spit on Your Grave (1978)
51.** Halloween (1978)
52.** Dawn of the Dead (1978)
53.** The Driller Killer (1979)
54.** Alien (1979)
55.** The Brood (1979)
56.** Thirst (1979)
57.** Phantasm (1979)
58.** Salem’s Lot (1979)

1980s
59.** Cannibal Holocaust (1980)
60.** The Beyond (1981)
61.** The Howling (1981)
62.** The Burning (1981)
63.** Basket Case (1982)
64.** Toxic Avenger (1984)
65.** Nightmare on Elm Street (1984)
66.** Return of the Living Dead (1985)
67.** Re-Animator (1985)
68.** In a Glass Cage (1986)
69.** Hellraiser (1987)
70.** Predator (1987)
71.** Santa Sangre (1989)
72.** Tetsuo: The Iron Man (1989)

1990s
73.** The Reflecting Skin (1990)
74.** Scream (1996)
75.** Bride of Chucky (1998)
76.** Whispering Corridors (1998)
77.** Blair Witch Project (1999)
78.** From Dusk Till Dawn (1996)
79.** Event Horizon (1997)
80.** Cube (1997)
81.** Audition (1999)

2000s
82.** Shadow of the Vampire (2000)
83.** Final Destination (2000)
84.** Pulse (2001)
85.** Jun-on (2002)
86.** The Ring (2002, remake)
87.** 28 Days Later (2002)
88.** May (2002)
89.** High Tension (2003)
90.** The Host (2006)
91.** Paranormal Activity (2007)
92.** Inside (2007)
93.** Martyrs (2008)
94.** Let the Right One In (2008)
95.** *[Rec] 2 (2009)
2010s
96.** Insidious (2010)
97.** The Conjuring (2013)
98.** The VVitch (2015)
99.** Get Out (2017)
100.** Hereditary (2018)

Edit: Strange, not sure where all the *s came from...

DaveyJoe 08-22-19 04:15 PM
Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 15: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)
 
I made this after the subset challenge one year:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...da5682c3e9.jpg

Darth Maher 08-22-19 05:03 PM
Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 15: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)
 
I really, really want to see this masterpiece now.

mallratcal 08-22-19 05:28 PM
Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 15: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)
 
Hobgoblins is great and I stand by my The Uncanny pick!

I love bad movies.

DaveyJoe 08-22-19 06:56 PM
Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 15: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)
 
Nightbeast is another so-bad-its-good movie from Vinegar Syndrome.

Shack 08-22-19 09:39 PM
Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 15: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)
 
Originally Posted by Darth Maher (Post 13596747)
I really, really want to see this masterpiece now.
Me too! Particularly if it also got the MST3k treatment.

Chad 08-22-19 11:34 PM
Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 15: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)
 
I've been stockpiling pretty much all of Vinegar Syndrome's horror titles released this year for the challenge.

Also a reminder this still exists:

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/...wNzE@._V1_.jpg

Chad 08-22-19 11:51 PM
Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 15: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)
 
The fifth Arrow BOGO sale ...second time for Zavvi:

<iframe src="https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FArrowVideo%2Fposts%2F2666127460087898&width=500&show_ text=true&height=629&appId" width="500" height="629" style="border:none;overflow:hidden" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowTransparency="true" allow="encrypted-media"></iframe>

ViewAskewbian 08-23-19 09:57 AM
Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 15: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)
 
Originally Posted by Undeadcow (Post 13596677)
The '100 films in horror history' is a cool idea, I had some time at work so gave it a try myself.* There's no escaping personal bias/preference so I didn't restrain myself as much as I could have - turns out I'm a bigger fan of 1970s horror than I thought.

Spoiler:
1920s
1.****** The Cabinet of Dr Caligari (1920)
2.****** Nosferatu (1922)
3.****** Cat and Canary (1927)

1930s
4.****** Frankenstein (1931)
5.****** Dracula (1931)
6.****** Island of Lost Souls (1932)
7.****** The Most Dangerous Game (1932)
8.****** King Kong (1933)

1940s
9.****** The Wolf Man (1941)
10.** Cat People (1942)
11.** Dead of Night (1945)
12.** Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein (1948)

1950s
13.** House of Wax (1953)
14.** Creature from the Black Lagoon (1954)
15.** Night of the Hunter (1955)
16.** The Quartermass Experiment (1955)
17.** Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956)
18.** The Curse of Frankenstein (1957)
19.** Horror of Dracula (1958)
20.** Night of the Demon (1957)
21.** The Blob (1958)
22.** House on Haunted Hill (1959)

1960s
23.** Psycho (1960)
24.** Mill of the Stone Woman (1960)
25.** Eyes Without a Face (1960)
26.** Peeping Tom (1960)
27.** House of Usher (1960)
28.** The Brain That Wouldn’t Die (1962)
29.** Carnival of Souls (1962)
30.** Burn Witch Burn (1962)
31.** The Haunting (1963)
32.** Blood Feast (1963)
33.** Onibaba (1964)
34.** Spider Baby (1967)
35.** The Mark of the Wolf Man (1968)
36.** Night of the Living Dead (1968)
37.** Rosemary’s Baby (1968)

1970s
38.** Bay of Blood (1971)
39.** Shiver of the Vampire (1971)
40.** The Wicker Man (1973)
41.** The Exorcist (1973)
42.** Legend of Hell House (1973)
43.** Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974)
44.** Deep Red (1975)
45.** Jaws (1975)
46.** Female Vampire (1975)
47.** Carrie (1976)
48.** The Omen (1976)
49.** Suspiria (1977)
50.** I Spit on Your Grave (1978)
51.** Halloween (1978)
52.** Dawn of the Dead (1978)
53.** The Driller Killer (1979)
54.** Alien (1979)
55.** The Brood (1979)
56.** Thirst (1979)
57.** Phantasm (1979)
58.** Salem’s Lot (1979)

1980s
59.** Cannibal Holocaust (1980)
60.** The Beyond (1981)
61.** The Howling (1981)
62.** The Burning (1981)
63.** Basket Case (1982)
64.** Toxic Avenger (1984)
65.** Nightmare on Elm Street (1984)
66.** Return of the Living Dead (1985)
67.** Re-Animator (1985)
68.** In a Glass Cage (1986)
69.** Hellraiser (1987)
70.** Predator (1987)
71.** Santa Sangre (1989)
72.** Tetsuo: The Iron Man (1989)

1990s
73.** The Reflecting Skin (1990)
74.** Scream (1996)
75.** Bride of Chucky (1998)
76.** Whispering Corridors (1998)
77.** Blair Witch Project (1999)
78.** From Dusk Till Dawn (1996)
79.** Event Horizon (1997)
80.** Cube (1997)
81.** Audition (1999)

2000s
82.** Shadow of the Vampire (2000)
83.** Final Destination (2000)
84.** Pulse (2001)
85.** Jun-on (2002)
86.** The Ring (2002, remake)
87.** 28 Days Later (2002)
88.** May (2002)
89.** High Tension (2003)
90.** The Host (2006)
91.** Paranormal Activity (2007)
92.** Inside (2007)
93.** Martyrs (2008)
94.** Let the Right One In (2008)
95.** *[Rec] 2 (2009)
2010s
96.** Insidious (2010)
97.** The Conjuring (2013)
98.** The VVitch (2015)
99.** Get Out (2017)
100.** Hereditary (2018)

Edit: Strange, not sure where all the *s came from...
Great list! We share a lot and a lot I didn't add were on my possibility list.

clckworang 08-23-19 11:04 AM
Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 15: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)
 
I'll probably post my daily subset selections this weekend.

MysterioMan007 08-23-19 11:14 AM
Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 15: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)
 
What does a subset volunteer do? I mean, I guess it doesn't matter. I'll do whatever you need if you need something done.


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