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Old 06-18-19, 12:31 AM
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12th Annual Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge Discussion Thread
Guess what time of the year it is! That's right, it's the 12th Annual Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge!

List Thread for 2018 is here.

Dates: Dusk June 30-Dawn August 1st

Rules

Movies/TV shows should be labeled sci-fi or fantasy from either imdb.com or allmovie.com. Other labels don't matter as long as there is at least a sci-fi or fantasy label from one of those sites. Action/Sci-fi would be fine.

If anyone has a problem with something someone watches or just wants an opinion on if it's sci-fi or fantasy or not, ask here.

Sci-Fi/Fantasy documentaries are allowed but not DVD featurettes/interviews. Documentaries include UFO and alien abduction type shows.

As with the other challenges, the lists must be numbered or it won't count.

Use any counting method you prefer, as prize determination does not depend on number of items watched.

3 wild cards for all. Use for those shows you want to watch but know they really don't count but they're pretty close or borderline to counting.

Watching the movie with the commentary will count as an entry.

Watching multiple versions (theatrical and director's cut) of the same movie will also count.

Audio:

Sci-fi/Fantasy Radio

I'm treating audio harshly since this is primarily a movie/tv challenge. That being said, one episode, 4 hours with commercials, of Coast to Coast counts as one entry. It's the same format for TV, only doubled. The topic of the show has to be sci-fi/fantasy related, so it shouldn't be that much of a problem with Coast to Coast.

If you're listening to something without commercials, or can skip them, you're looking at 3 hours of audio for one entry.

1/4 entry = 45 minutes without commercials and 60 with commercials.

1/2 entry = 90 minutes without commercials and 120 with commercials.

3/4 entry = 135 minutes without commercials and 180 with commercials.

1 entry = 180 minutes without commercials and 240 with commercials.

*Exceptions:* 1: The Tarzan films are eligible to watch and count for the watch list, but not for the check list.
2. Superhero films. If they do not have a sci-fi/fantasy tag, they count for the watch list, but not for the check list.

Finalized Checklist:
Spoiler:
*Watching enough shorts or TV to count as one entry, you can use that one entry as a check on the checklist, as long as each of them count for whatever you're checking. You can mix and match what you've seen to make a check, they all don't have to be grouped together as a single entry on your watch list.

3 Wildcards allowed

--- Watch a film in 9 of the following decades:
--- 1890 -
--- 1900 -
--- 1910 -
--- 1920 -
--- 1930 -
--- 1940 -
--- 1950 -
--- 1960 -
--- 1970 -
--- 1980 -
--- 1990 -
--- 2000 -
--- 2010 -

--- Watch films in at least two languages other than English.
--- First language -
--- Second language -

--- Watch a film in 9 of the following:
--- Watch a MST3K/Rifftrax/Cinematic Titanic/Hosted version of a sci-fi/fantasy film -
--- Watch a film featuring a laser shot going into the sky or down from space -
--- Watch a film made on a low budget (ex. Corman or Castle movie) -
--- Watch a film based on a novel -
--- Watch a film which was nominated for a Hugo or Saturn Award-
--- Watch a Documentary Feature -
--- Watch a Film from the Criterion Collection (Doesn't have to be the Criterion Version) -
--- Watch a film with commentary -
--- Watch a film and at least two sequels -
--- Watch an animated film -
--- Watch a film with special effects by Ray Harryhausen -
--- Watch a film that takes place in the "future" but the year has already come and gone -
--- Watch a film and its remake/reboot

--- He's dead, Jim. Watch 4 out of the following:
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Gene Roddenberry -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late C.S. Lewis OR J.R.R. Tolkien -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Jules Verne -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late H.G. Wells -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Richard Matheson OR H.P. Lovecraft -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late George Romero -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Alan Rickman -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Larry Cohen -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late John Carl Buechler -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late James Karen -

--- Watch 10 films directed/produced/written by:
--- J. J. Abrams -
--- Luc Besson -
--- Tim Burton -
--- James Cameron -
--- John Carpenter -
--- Richard Fleischer -
--- Terry Gilliam -
--- Duncan Jones -
--- Fritz Lang -
--- George Lucas -
--- George Melies -
--- Hayao Miyazaki -
--- Ridley Scott -
--- Steven Spielberg -
--- The Wachowskis -
--- James Whale -
--- Robert Wise -

--- Watch a film in 7 of these ratings:
--- Unrated (pre-MPAA) -
--- Approved -
--- G -
--- GP -
--- PG -
--- PG-13 -
--- M -
--- R -
--- NC-17 -
--- X (not porn!) -
--- Unrated (post-MPAA) -

--- Watch a film in 11 of the following subgenres:
--- Alien invasion -
--- Based on fairy tale -
--- Christmas in July -
--- Comedy -
--- Comic Book -
--- Dark Fantasy -
--- Disaster -
--- Dystopian Society -
--- High Fantasy -
--- Horror -
--- Immortality -
--- Kaiju -
--- Mad Scientist -
--- Mutants (Critter or otherwise) -
--- Paranormal -
--- Post-Apocalyptic -
--- Prehistoric -
--- Psychological Sci-Fi -
--- Robot/Android -
--- Space Themed -
--- Sword and Sorcery -
--- Time travel -
--- Urban Fantasy -

Not sure what qualifies? Check here for a description or even better: here.

--- Watch a film starring 15 of the following actors:
--- Amy Adams -
--- John Astin -
--- Cate Blanchett -
--- Benedict Cumberbatch -
--- Keith David -
--- Faith Domergue -
--- Harrison Ford -
--- Morgan Freeman -
--- Chris Hemsworth -
--- Samuel L. Jackson -
--- Peter Jason -
--- Scarlett Johansson -
--- Milla Jovovich -
--- Christopher Lloyd -
--- Boris Karloff -
--- James McAvoy -
--- Roddy McDowall -
--- Sir Ian McKellen -
--- Gary Oldman -
--- Chris Pine -
--- Chris Pratt -
--- Vincent Price -
--- Keanu Reeves -
--- Kurt Russell -
--- Zoe Saldana -
--- Arnold Schwarzenegger -
--- Andy Serkis -
--- Will Smith -
--- Patrick Stewart -
--- Akira Takarada -
--- Charlize Theron -
--- Liv Tyler -
--- Sigourney Weaver -


2017's Discussion thread here.

Suggestions for next year, 2020:
Spoiler:
Dwayne Johnson (16 titles)
Josh Hutcherson (10 titles)
Tim Thomerson
Emma Thompson
Helena Bonham Carter
Peter Cullen

Add "watch a superhero movie" to subgenres.
Film based on a book

Remove Duncan Jones from Directors list.

For the "he's dead, Jim" list: Rutger Hauer and David Hedison, Stan Lee (Missed him in 2019's challenge)
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Just a couple things...1) Please let me know of any changes you'd like to see in the checklist. It was overhauled last year, but can always be changed before the start of the challenge. Anyone I should add to the "He's Dead, Jim" section, for instance?

2) This year I'm not going to hand out prizes. I know it's been a long standing tradition and GoldenWheels has been VERY generous to us, but I honestly don't have time to set it up this year. I will definitely be around for the challenge, but the end of June is going to be a busy one for me and I'll be off-line a lot in the next 7-10 days or so. (Mini-vacation and then my mom is having surgery and I am her support person for it, if you're wondering...)

Think that's it. I'll be setting up the list thread very shortly as well so people can start their planning! I'm not sure about anyone else, but I'm really looking forward to some fun watches this year!
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^ I am too. Already watched some. And I have a question. Planes: Fire And Rescue is playing at AirVenture Oshkosh this year. Would that count as a fantasy?
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I'm going to go ahead and say yes without looking it up. I watched it once a long time ago and considering it's talking planes/automobiles, I think that's in the fantasy realm...
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This is the challenge that started me on this monthly cycle of themed movie watching madness. As usual, I have more to watch than time in which to watch it! I'd have it no other way!
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This is the challenge that started me on this monthly cycle of themed movie watching madness. As usual, I have more to watch than time in which to watch it! I'd have it no other way!

I’ve got some new DVDs I plan to watch. Including both volumes of Time Tunnel. I also got the last DVD set to complete my entire collection of Series 1 and 2, of GI Joe plus the 86 movie, the two live action movies and the two CGI movies. It deals with sci fi plots in almost every episode. Dish Network also has Lion and Vehicle Voltron and all three series of Robotech on demand.
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I’ve got some new DVDs I plan to watch. Including both volumes of Time Tunnel. I also got the last DVD set to complete my entire collection of Series 1 and 2, of GI Joe plus the 86 movie, the two live action movies and the two CGI movies. It deals with sci fi plots in almost every episode. Dish Network also has Lion and Vehicle Voltron and all three series of Robotech on demand.
The Time Tunnel is one of my favorite 60s SF series. So much so that I purchased a copy of the BR release when it came out. It looks excellent.

I just got the new BR of Jonny Quest - came in today. I'm not waiting till next month to watch it as it's a top 10 favorite and my favorite animated show of all time. I plan on starting it later tonight.

I also just got in a copy of the new BR of Ikarie XB 1. I'm really excited about this one and will likely make it my first viewing for the challenge. I also just got a BR upgrade copy of Minority Report, the only SF movie from Spielberg I'll willingly watch. That, too, may get an early viewing.
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Can we add Michael Bay to the Directors list? That would give us a lot of additional movies to choose from.
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I think we can get rid of Margot Kidder and David Ogden Stiers in the RIP category. They really didn't have much to begin with.

I agree about Michael Bay.
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Can we add Michael Bay to the Directors list? That would give us a lot of additional movies to choose from.
Probably...I will be home on Sat. Night and will check his filmagraphy then and make a final decision.

Any complaints about taking Stiers and the other person off the RIP list? Any additions?

Didn't see they made a blue of Jonny Quest...I will have to check that out when I get a chance.
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More for RIP:

James Karen (10/23/18)
Larry Cohen (3/23/19) has 6
John Carl Buechler (3/18/19) has a bunch for makeup effects
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More for RIP:

James Karen (10/23/18)
Larry Cohen (3/23/19) has 6
John Carl Buechler (3/18/19) has a bunch for makeup effects
These all look good to me.
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While you are considering adding Michael Bay to the Directors list could you also consider adding Cate Blanchett to the Actors choices. She has 17 fantasy films and we can always use more female representation in the list.
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Can we add Michael Bay to the Directors list? That would give us a lot of additional movies to choose from.
I'm a bit torn on adding Bay, to be honest. He truthfully has only 2 Sci-fi/fantasy credits to his name. 1) Armageddon. 2) The Transformers series. Yes, there's like 10 Transformers movies, but that's it. It's not that diverse of a selection. If I get a lot of people chiming in that they want to add him before the challenge starts, I will, otherwise, I'm going to leave him off for now. The movies still qualify for the lists and watching, don't forget!

Originally Posted by shellebelle
More for RIP:

James Karen (10/23/18)
Larry Cohen (3/23/19) has 6
John Carl Buechler (3/18/19) has a bunch for makeup effects
Am I missing things for Karen? I see the two Return of the Living Dead movies and 3 or four individual guest spots on TV shows that would likely qualify but that's it. Is that enough to include him?

Larry Cohen will be added as will John Carl Buechler.

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While you are considering adding Michael Bay to the Directors list could you also consider adding Cate Blanchett to the Actors choices. She has 17 fantasy films and we can always use more female representation in the list.
Done.
Any other changes or suggestions? Did I miss any?

Updated list (note I have not changed the lists at the beginning of this thread or the list thread):

Spoiler:
*Watching enough shorts or TV to count as one entry, you can use that one entry as a check on the checklist, as long as each of them count for whatever you're checking. You can mix and match what you've seen to make a check, they all don't have to be grouped together as a single entry on your watch list.

3 Wildcards allowed

--- Watch a film in 9 of the following decades:
--- 1890 -
--- 1900 -
--- 1910 -
--- 1920 -
--- 1930 -
--- 1940 -
--- 1950 -
--- 1960 -
--- 1970 -
--- 1980 -
--- 1990 -
--- 2000 -
--- 2010 -

--- Watch films in at least two languages other than English.
--- First language -
--- Second language -

--- Watch a film in 9 of the following:
--- Watch a MST3K/Rifftrax/Cinematic Titanic/Hosted version of a sci-fi/fantasy film -
--- Watch a film featuring a laser shot going into the sky or down from space -
--- Watch a film made on a low budget (ex. Corman or Castle movie) -
--- Watch a film based on a novel -
--- Watch a film which was nominated for a Hugo or Saturn Award-
--- Watch a Documentary Feature -
--- Watch a Film from the Criterion Collection (Doesn't have to be the Criterion Version) -
--- Watch a film with commentary -
--- Watch a film and at least two sequels -
--- Watch an animated film -
--- Watch a film with special effects by Ray Harryhausen -
--- Watch a film that takes place in the "future" but the year has already come and gone -
--- Watch a film and its remake/reboot

--- He's dead, Jim. Watch 4 out of the following:
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Gene Roddenberry -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late C.S. Lewis OR J.R.R. Tolkien -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Jules Verne -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late H.G. Wells -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Richard Matheson OR H.P. Lovecraft -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late George Romero -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Alan Rickman -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Larry Cohen -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late John Carl Buechler -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late James Karen -

--- Watch 10 films directed/produced/written by:
--- J. J. Abrams -
--- Luc Besson -
--- Tim Burton -
--- James Cameron -
--- John Carpenter -
--- Richard Fleischer -
--- Terry Gilliam -
--- Duncan Jones -
--- Fritz Lang -
--- George Lucas -
--- George Melies -
--- Hayao Miyazaki -
--- Ridley Scott -
--- Steven Spielberg -
--- The Wachowskis -
--- James Whale -
--- Robert Wise -

--- Watch a film in 7 of these ratings:
--- Unrated (pre-MPAA) -
--- Approved -
--- G -
--- GP -
--- PG -
--- PG-13 -
--- M -
--- R -
--- NC-17 -
--- X (not porn!) -
--- Unrated (post-MPAA) -

--- Watch a film in 11 of the following subgenres:
--- Alien invasion -
--- Based on fairy tale -
--- Christmas in July -
--- Comedy -
--- Comic Book -
--- Dark Fantasy -
--- Disaster -
--- Dystopian Society -
--- High Fantasy -
--- Horror -
--- Immortality -
--- Kaiju -
--- Mad Scientist -
--- Mutants (Critter or otherwise) -
--- Paranormal -
--- Post-Apocalyptic -
--- Prehistoric -
--- Psychological Sci-Fi -
--- Robot/Android -
--- Space Themed -
--- Sword and Sorcery -
--- Time travel -
--- Urban Fantasy -

Not sure what qualifies? Check here for a description or even better: here.

--- Watch a film starring 15 of the following actors:
--- Amy Adams -
--- John Astin -
--- Benedict Cumberbatch -
--- Keith David -
--- Faith Domergue -
--- Harrison Ford -
--- Morgan Freeman -
--- Chris Hemsworth -
--- Samuel L. Jackson -
--- Peter Jason -
--- Scarlett Johansson -
--- Milla Jovovich -
--- Christopher Lloyd -
--- Boris Karloff -
--- James McAvoy -
--- Roddy McDowall -
--- Sir Ian McKellen -
--- Gary Oldman -
--- Chris Pine -
--- Chris Pratt -
--- Vincent Price -
--- Keanu Reeves -
--- Kurt Russell -
--- Zoe Saldana -
--- Arnold Schwarzenegger -
--- Andy Serkis -
--- Will Smith -
--- Patrick Stewart -
--- Akira Takarada -
--- Charlize Theron -
--- Liv Tyler -
--- Sigourney Weaver -
--- Cate Blanchett -
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Am I missing things for Karen? I see the two Return of the Living Dead movies and 3 or four individual guest spots on TV shows that would likely qualify but that's it. Is that enough to include him?
Possibly. Here are 10 movies (IMDB Advance Search) with Science Fiction tags:
https://www.imdb.com/search/title/?t...role=nm0439170

And 4 more with Fantasy tags:
https://www.imdb.com/search/title/?t...role=nm0439170

That doesn't include any TV material.
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Possibly. Here are 10 movies (IMDB Advance Search) with Science Fiction tags:
https://www.imdb.com/search/title/?t...role=nm0439170

And 4 more with Fantasy tags:
https://www.imdb.com/search/title/?t...role=nm0439170

That doesn't include any TV material.
Thanks, I admit to being tired, but not quite sure how I missed those! I promise I did look! Seems like enough so will add him as well to the RIP section.
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Part 2 of 3Below: Tales of Arcadia is being released on Netflix on June 12th.

Also season 2 of Final Space just premiered on Adult Swim (episodes will repeat on TBS). Cord cutters can pick up the season on Amazon, Vudu, etc...
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Getting closer to the beginning of the challenge. Anyone have any last minute additions/changes to suggest for the check list?

Not sure what my plans are going to be for the month. Don't have a ton of new movies that qualify but it might be a good month to pull out some older TV shows. I get EW and this week's has a reunion with the Angelcast and it's totally hitting my nostalgic button. Could be a fun show to re-watch. Can't tell you when I last watched it, actually...
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I’ve been counting the days for the challenge, as I love sci fi and fantasy. Sometimes I even watch some in order to wet my appetite.
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I whet my SF/Fantasy appetite every month. I got the new BR of Jonny Quest last week and have been watching a few episodes of that every night.
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I’ve been counting the days for the challenge, as I love sci fi and fantasy. Sometimes I even watch some in order to wet my appetite.
Every month is Sci-Fi/Fantasy viewing month for me Though I have been holding off on a few streaming movies for July.

I'm almost caught up with the Arrowverse shows on Netflix (at least the "core" shows of Arrow, Flash, Supergirl and Legends), so I should be ready to shift to weekly DVR viewing in the Fall.
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Only major goal I have is to finish the (OG) Outer Limits. I nearly finished season one last year. Outside of that, it's open season.
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Haven’t had many goals in these Challenges lately, as completing my ~40 item personal checklist pretty much taps me out, but I think I’ll try to finish a couple TV seasons I’ve been slowly rolling through, like the recent V and Dirk Gently.
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I have just a couple hours to go until dusk before I can start the challenge...some of you may have already been able to start, so I wish you and everyone else good luck! I plan on watching something tonight, but not entirely sure what yet. I have quite a bit to chose from, though!
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Dusk starts late enough 'round these parts (a little bit after nine) that I'll watch one short (60 minutes +/-) movie or watch an episode of Slayers, start the next Ace of Wands serial and call it a night.
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