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11th Annual Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge Discussion Thread

It's that time again! Time for the
11th Annual Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge 2017!

List Thread for 2018 (forthcoming)

Dates: Dusk June 30-Dawn August 1st

Rules

Movies/TV shows should be labeled sci-fi or fantasy from either imdb.com or allmovie.com. Other labels don't matter as long as there is at least a sci-fi or fantasy label from one of those sites. Action/Sci-fi would be fine.

If anyone has a problem with something someone watches or just wants an opinion on if it's sci-fi or fantasy or not, ask here.

Sci-Fi/Fantasy documentaries are allowed but not DVD featurettes/interviews. Documentaries include UFO and alien abduction type shows.

As with the other challenges, the lists must be numbered or it won't count.

Use any counting method you prefer, as prize determination does not depend on number of items watched.

3 wild cards for all. Use for those shows you want to watch but know they really don't count but they're pretty close or borderline to counting.


Watching the movie with the commentary will count as an entry.

Watching multiple versions (theatrical and director's cut) of the same movie will also count.


How to win a prize

There's 1 way to get an entry:
Participate by watching at least 1 item (please number your lists!)

Audio:

Sci-fi/Fantasy Radio

I'm treating audio harshly since this is primarily a movie/tv challenge. That being said, one episode, 4 hours with commercials, of Coast to Coast counts as one entry. It's the same format for TV, only doubled. The topic of the show has to be sci-fi/fantasy related, so it shouldn't be that much of a problem with Coast to Coast.

If you're listening to something without commercials, or can skip them, you're looking at 3 hours of audio for one entry.

1/4 entry = 45 minutes without commercials and 60 with commercials.

1/2 entry = 90 minutes without commercials and 120 with commercials.

3/4 entry = 135 minutes without commercials and 180 with commercials.

1 entry = 180 minutes without commercials and 240 with commercials.

*Exceptions:* 1: The Tarzan films are eligible to watch and count for the watch list, but not for the check list.
2. Superhero films. If they do not have a sci-fi/fantasy tag, they count for the watch list, but not for the check list.

Checklist:

Spoiler:

*Watching enough shorts or TV to count as one entry, you can use that one entry as a check on the checklist, as long as each of them count for whatever you're checking. You can mix and match what you've seen to make a check, they all don't have to be grouped together as a single entry on your watch list.

3 Wildcards allowed

Watch one film from every decade, starting with the 1900s.
--- 1900(No time limit but must be at least complete short film) - (optional)
--- 1910(No time limit but must be at least complete short film) - (optional)
--- 1920 -
--- 1930 -
--- 1940 -
--- 1950 -
--- 1960 -
--- 1970 -
--- 1980 -
--- 1990 -
--- 2000 -
--- 2010 -

Watch films in at least two languages other than English.
--- First language -
--- Second language -

Watch a film in 12 of the following:
--- Watch a MST3K/Rifftrax/Cinematic Titanic/Hosted version of a sci-fi/fantasy film -
--- Watch a film featuring laser blasters -
--- Watch a film made on a low budget (ex. Corman or Castle movie) -
--- Watch a film based on a novel -
--- Watch a film which was nominated for a Hugo or Saturn Award-
--- Watch a Documentary Feature -
--- Watch a Film From the Criterion Collection (Doesn't have to be Criterion Version) -
--- Watch a film with commentary -
--- Watch a film and at least two sequels -
--- Watch a film that takes place underneath the Earth -
--- Watch a film that takes place in space -
--- Watch a film that takes place on or under the sea -
--- Watch an animated film -
--- Watch a film with special effects by Ray Harryhausen -
--- Watch a film that takes place in the "future" but the year has already come and gone -
--- Watch a film and its remake/reboot

He's dead, Jim. Watch 6 out of the following:
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Gene Roddenberry -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Ray Bradbury -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Phillip K. Dick -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Edgar Rice Burroughs -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Jules Verne -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late HP Lovecraft -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Richard Matheson -
--- Watch a film starring Christopher Lee -
--- Watch a film starring Alan Rickman -
--- Watch a film starring Anton Yelchin -
--- Watch a film starring Kenny Baker -
--- Watch a film starring Bill Paxton -
--- Watch a film starring John Hurt -

Watch 12 films directed/produced/written by:
--- James Cameron -
--- Steven Spielberg -
--- Terry Gilliam -
--- Tim Burton -
--- Hayao Miyazaki -
--- David Cronenberg -
--- James Whale -
--- Ridley Scott -
--- Paul Verhoeven -
--- Robert Wise -
--- Robert Zemeckis -
--- The Wachowskis -
--- Jerry Warren -
--- J. J. Abrams -
--- Samuel Z. Arkoff -
--- David Twohy -
--- Richard Fleischer -
--- William Cameron Menzies -
--- Kevin Connor -
--- Alex Proyas -
--- Fritz Lang -
--- George Melies -
--- George Miller -
--- George Lucas -
--- John Carpenter -
--- Luc Besson -

Watch a film for each rating
--- G -
--- PG -
--- PG-13 -
--- R -
--- X/NC-17(Optional) -
--- Unrated -

Watch a film in 28 of the following subgenres:
--- Alien invasion -
--- Horror
--- Dystopian Society -
--- Post-Apocalyptic -
--- Alternate History -
--- Robot/Android -
--- Immortality -
--- Space Opera/Serial -
--- Mutants (non-critter) -
--- Comic Book -
--- Mad Scientist -
--- Comedy -
--- Time travel -
--- Giant Critters -
--- Prehistoric -
--- Paranormal -
--- Kaiju -
--- Tech Noir -
--- First Contact -
--- Space Soldiers -
--- Magical Beings -
--- Future Crimes -
--- Animalcadabra -
--- Myths & Legends -
--- Worst Movie Ever -
--- Arthurian Fantasy -
--- Based on fairy tale -
--- Urban Fantasy -
--- High Fantasy -
--- Sword and Sorcery -
--- Dark Fantasy -
--- Martial Arts Fantasy -
--- Disaster -
Not sure what qualifies? Check here for a description or even better: here.

Watch a film starring 23 of the following actors:

--- Amy Adams -
--- Evelyn Ankers -
--- Lionel Atwill -
--- Susan Cabot -
--- Benedict Cumberbatch -
--- Keith David -
--- Peter Dinklage -
--- Faith Domergue -
--- Michelle Forbes -
--- Harrison Ford -
--- Arthur Franz -
--- Morgan Freeman -
--- Ian Holm -
--- Samuel L. Jackson -
--- Peter Jason -
--- Scarlett Johansson -
--- Milla Jovovich -
--- Christopher Lloyd -
--- Boris Karloff -
--- Hugh Marlowe -
--- James McAvoy -
--- Doug McClure -
--- Roddy McDowall -
--- Sir Ian McKellen -
--- Julianne Moore -
--- Gary Oldman -
--- Edward James Olmos -
--- Chris Pine -
--- Chris Pratt -
--- Vincent Price -
--- Keanu Reeves -
--- Michelle Rodriguez -
--- Kurt Russell -
--- Zoe Saldana -
--- Arnold Schwarzenegger -
--- Andy Serkis -
--- Will Smith -
--- Patrick Stewart -
--- Akira Takarada -
--- Charlize Theron -
--- Brian Thompson -
--- Liv Tyler -
--- David Warner -
--- Sigourney Weaver -
--- Raquel Welch -
--- Peter Weller -


2017's Discussion list.


2018's updated checklist:
Spoiler:
*Watching enough shorts or TV to count as one entry, you can use that one entry as a check on the checklist, as long as each of them count for whatever you're checking. You can mix and match what you've seen to make a check, they all don't have to be grouped together as a single entry on your watch list.

3 Wildcards allowed

--- Watch a film in 9 of the following decades:
--- 1890 -
--- 1900 -
--- 1910 -
--- 1920 -
--- 1930 -
--- 1940 -
--- 1950 -
--- 1960 -
--- 1970 -
--- 1980 -
--- 1990 -
--- 2000 -
--- 2010 -

--- Watch films in at least two languages other than English.
--- First language -
--- Second language -

--- Watch a film in 9 of the following:
--- Watch a MST3K/Rifftrax/Cinematic Titanic/Hosted version of a sci-fi/fantasy film -
--- Watch a film featuring a laser shot going into the sky or down from space -
--- Watch a film made on a low budget (ex. Corman or Castle movie) -
--- Watch a film based on a novel -
--- Watch a film which was nominated for a Hugo or Saturn Award-
--- Watch a Documentary Feature -
--- Watch a Film from the Criterion Collection (Doesn't have to be the Criterion Version) -
--- Watch a film with commentary -
--- Watch a film and at least two sequels -
--- Watch an animated film -
--- Watch a film with special effects by Ray Harryhausen -
--- Watch a film that takes place in the "future" but the year has already come and gone -
--- Watch a film and its remake/reboot

--- He's dead, Jim. Watch 4 out of the following:
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Gene Roddenberry -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late C.S. Lewis OR J.R.R. Tolkien -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Jules Verne -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late H.G. Wells -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Richard Matheson -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late George Romero -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Margot Kidder -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Alan Rickman -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late David Odgen Stiers

--- Watch 10 films directed/produced/written by:
--- J. J. Abrams -
--- Luc Besson -
--- Tim Burton -
--- James Cameron -
--- John Carpenter -
--- Richard Fleischer -
--- Terry Gilliam -
--- Duncan Jones -
--- Fritz Lang -
--- George Lucas -
--- George Melies -
--- Hayao Miyazaki -
--- Ridley Scott -
--- Steven Spielberg -
--- The Wachowskis -
--- James Whale -
--- Robert Wise -

--- Watch a film in 7 of these ratings:
--- Unrated (pre-MPAA) -
--- Approved -
--- G -
--- GP -
--- PG -
--- PG-13 -
--- M -
--- R -
--- NC-17 -
--- X (not porn!) -
--- Unrated (post-MPAA) -

--- Watch a film in 11 of the following subgenres:
--- Alien invasion -
--- Based on fairy tale -
--- Christmas in July -
--- Comedy -
--- Comic Book -
--- Dark Fantasy -
--- Disaster -
--- Dystopian Society -
--- High Fantasy -
--- Horror -
--- Immortality -
--- Kaiju -
--- Mad Scientist -
--- Mutants (Critter or otherwise) -
--- Paranormal -
--- Post-Apocalyptic -
--- Prehistoric -
--- Psychological Sci-Fi -
--- Robot/Android -
--- Space Themed -
--- Sword and Sorcery -
--- Time travel -
--- Urban Fantasy -

Not sure what qualifies? Check here for a description or even better: here.

--- Watch a film starring 15 of the following actors:
--- Amy Adams -
--- John Astin -
--- Benedict Cumberbatch -
--- Keith David -
--- Faith Domergue -
--- Harrison Ford -
--- Morgan Freeman -
--- Chris Hemsworth -
--- Samuel L. Jackson -
--- Peter Jason -
--- Scarlett Johansson -
--- Milla Jovovich -
--- Christopher Lloyd -
--- Boris Karloff -
--- James McAvoy -
--- Roddy McDowall -
--- Sir Ian McKellen -
--- Gary Oldman -
--- Chris Pine -
--- Chris Pratt -
--- Vincent Price -
--- Keanu Reeves -
--- Kurt Russell -
--- Zoe Saldana -
--- Arnold Schwarzenegger -
--- Andy Serkis -
--- Will Smith -
--- Patrick Stewart -
--- Akira Takarada -
--- Charlize Theron -
--- Liv Tyler -
--- Sigourney Weaver -
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Re: 11th Annual Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge Discussion Thread

I have two checklists in the opening post. Please take a look at the 2018 one and post any suggestions to add to it! Anyone I should add to the "He's dead, Jim" list?

There's just over 2 weeks before the challenge begins so plenty of time to give suggestions!
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Re: 11th Annual Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge Discussion Thread

I look forward to this Challenge every year, as Sci-Fi and Fantasy are some of my favorite genres. I also like the fact that I can listen to Coast To Coast AM and have it count. I'm a Coast Insider, and listen to at least one episode a day.
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I am looking forward to watching some sci-fi/fantasy other than The X-Files which I'm watching now.
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Re: 11th Annual Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge Discussion Thread

Wow! This year is flying by so fast! This year's exploitation challenge was a bunch of fun but gave me movie-fatigue. I made it half way through the MYO challenge before abandoning it and skipped the historical challenge, so I'm ready to jump back into things. I've got a large number of SF/F films lurking in my unwatched pile and on my streaming queues!

I've got a couple of suggestions for the checklist. The first is to make it mandatory and ruthlessly police this new rule. (I'm kidding!)

Suggestion 1: In the "He's dead, Jim." section, we could switch out Rickman and Lee for Margot Kidder and David Ogden Stiers who both recently died. Kidder was part of a big superhero franchise, and Stiers was one of Disney's lucky charms since the Renaissance. Both were in a ton of SF/F television.

Suggestion 2: Also in the "He's dead, Jim." section, we could refresh the dead authors by switching two out for H.G. Wells and J.R.R. Tolkien or C.S. Lewis. (I researched including Octavia Butler and Ursula Le Guin, but none of Butler's extensive works have ever been adapted and le Guin's only have a handful adaptations - most of Earthsea. But that's a conversation for another time.)

Suggestion 3: Include Duncan Jones in the director list. He only has four SF/F feature films in his filmography, but they are all pretty accessible and fun.

Suggestion 4: In the Misc. section, upgrade "laser blasters" to "laser into/from the sky".

Also, fascism is making a major political comeback so transitioning the SF/F challenge into a police state obsessed with participants completing the checklist isn't necessarily outside the realm of possibility - just saying!
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Second Duncan Jones. Need to re-visit Moon, perhaps an all-time favorite.
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I have had no time for watching anything this year, but i'll to get into this one. I love sci-fi/horror.
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Wow! This year is flying by so fast! This year's exploitation challenge was a bunch of fun but gave me movie-fatigue. I made it half way through the MYO challenge before abandoning it and skipped the historical challenge, so I'm ready to jump back into things. I've got a large number of SF/F films lurking in my unwatched pile and on my streaming queues!

I've got a couple of suggestions for the checklist. The first is to make it mandatory and ruthlessly police this new rule. (I'm kidding!)

Suggestion 1: In the "He's dead, Jim." section, we could switch out Rickman and Lee for Margot Kidder and David Ogden Stiers who both recently died. Kidder was part of a big superhero franchise, and Stiers was one of Disney's lucky charms since the Renaissance. Both were in a ton of SF/F television.

Suggestion 2: Also in the "He's dead, Jim." section, we could refresh the dead authors by switching two out for H.G. Wells and J.R.R. Tolkien or C.S. Lewis. (I researched including Octavia Butler and Ursula Le Guin, but none of Butler's extensive works have ever been adapted and le Guin's only have a handful adaptations - most of Earthsea. But that's a conversation for another time.)

Suggestion 3: Include Duncan Jones in the director list. He only has four SF/F feature films in his filmography, but they are all pretty accessible and fun.

Suggestion 4: In the Misc. section, upgrade "laser blasters" to "laser into/from the sky".

Also, fascism is making a major political comeback so transitioning the SF/F challenge into a police state obsessed with participants completing the checklist isn't necessarily outside the realm of possibility - just saying!
This year has flown by so quickly! I usually skip the drive-in and historical challenges because I know I'm hosting in July and August and usually participate in the Criterion. Get October off challenge wise to dive right into Comedy/Holiday/TV on DVD...and more! I have found my free time is just not what it used to be so my numbers are very down from what they used to be. But, I find I'm concentrating on new watches and getting a lot off my "to watch" list.

Thanks for the suggestions! I'll update the checklist when I get more than a few minutes to putter at it later tonight. Though, I really like Alan Rickman so he'll be staying! Hey, hosting has to have some benefit! lol! I have to admit I totally forgot about Stiers...I have loved watching/listening to him since M*A*S*H.

I think I may skip the dystopian/fascist/Orwellian type of governance over the challenge and checklist and just recommend we stick to that type of film rather than try to conduct a real life experiment!

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I am looking forward to watching some sci-fi/fantasy other than The X-Files which I'm watching now.
You have been hitting the X-Files pretty hard! Feel free to post your reviews in here if you'd like to switch threads or even double post if you want to keep posting in the MYOC thread as well...
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One possibility for an additional actor is Chris Hemsworth. Besides some Marvel movies that qualify he has some Star Trek and others.
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I'm not sure how much viewing content I will get in next month. A lot of my time will be taken up by preparing for my annual vacation to Airventure Oshkosh in the last week of July. I've already started to prepare for it, and when I'm not working, a lot of the last few days has been spent listening to interviews from past years on the EAA Radio app.
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Also, fascism is making a major political comeback
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One possibility for an additional actor is Chris Hemsworth. Besides some Marvel movies that qualify he has some Star Trek and others.
I almost added him last year, to be honest, but felt that he really didn't have a big sci-fi/fantasy filmography other than as Thor (and the cameo in the first reboot Star Trek). He was in the Huntsman and in the newer Ghostbusters film though, and is slated to add the Men in Black franchise as well. Anyone want to speak up with a yea or nay to adding him?

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I'm not sure how much viewing content I will get in next month. A lot of my time will be taken up by preparing for my annual vacation to Airventure Oshkosh in the last week of July. I've already started to prepare for it, and when I'm not working, a lot of the last few days has been spent listening to interviews from past years on the EAA Radio app.
I give you credit for going so many years in a row! That is a big gathering. I try to avoid that side of the state when it's going on. Hope you enjoy the trip!
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I just updated 2018's checklist with the suggestions. I did add Chris Hemsworth into the actor list but may take him out before it goes official. It does seem odd that the other two Chris's (Evans and Pine) are there but not him!

I did make one of the "He's Dead, Jim" into a one or the other just to point that out!
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I think Hemsworth should stay.
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Second Duncan Jones. Need to re-visit Moon, perhaps an all-time favorite.
Me too. I also want to re-visit Source Code which I really enjoyed. I may borrow Warcraft from a friend who liked it well enough.
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Something that may be of interest to Twilight Zone fans. MeTV now airs the 1 hour episodes on Sunday nights at midnight, EDT.
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