D'oh, missed that. Will add it in next time I work on the checklist. Probably tomorrow.

Will change those next time I work on the checklist.

I like those and would say throw out the current directors/producers list(s) and do all new. Charles Band has been in the list for several years as has been Corman and Gilliam.

Here are a few more writers/directors/producers who've not been on the list the past few years:

David Cronenberg
James Whale
Ridley Scott
Paul Verhoeven
Robert Wise
Robert Zemeckis
The Wachowski Brothers
Jerry Warren
J. J. "Lens Flare" Abrams
Samuel Z. Arkoff
David Twohy
Richard Fleischer
William Cameron Menzies

Some have only a few credits (which is why we combined these and actors a couple of years back) but if you keep a list at 80-90% needed of the total it should be doable.

Cool.

Works for me! Maybe some new actors too? I know that this batch has been the same for at least a couple years now.

Alan Rickman
Patrick Stewart
Ian McKellan
Sigourney Weaver
Ron Perlman
Harrison Ford (might be stretching it, but he has starred in 2 very popular series that qualify!)
Tom Cruise (not a favorite of mine, but he's racked up some sci fi/fantasy titles)

Any more women actors anyone can think of or older actors that we haven't already covered?

Here are more actors/actresses for a revised list:

James McAvoy
David Warner
Edward James Olmos
Tilda Swinton
Sir Ian McKellen
Liv Tyler
Peter Dinklage
Charlize Theron
Winona Ryder
Lena Headey
Zoe Saldana
Ian Holm
Hugh Marlowe
Boris Karloff
Sir Cedric Hardwicke
Lionel Atwill
Evelyn Ankers
Abbott & Costello
Peter Graves
Hugh Marlowe
Richard Denning
Susan Cabot
Samuel L. Jackson
Tommy Kirk
Raquel Welch
Ray Milland
Roddy McDowall
Nancy Allen
Rick Moranis
Michelle Pfeiffer

Several of those actors/actresses have only 2-3 qualifying films and many have only 4-5 so it may be prudent to fully check before including. There are also several who will be in a film with others on the list *or* match to a producer/director.

Finding "new" actors/actresses for the list is somewhat difficult as there doesn't seem to be many we've not already used who are known for SF/Fantasy. There were several names I recognized for certain films only to look up their filmography to find they only did 1 or 2 qualifying films.

Yes, A&C are a legit entry performing in at least 4 qualifying films.

Here are more producers and directors for consideration:
Ishirō Honda
George Pal
Irwin Allen
Terence Fisher
Jack Arnold
Sidney W. Pink

Isn't Paul Verhoeven horror? I can't remember anything science fiction by him. But I could be mistaken.

Also, you could add Edgar Rice Burroughs to the Written By category. He's written the Tarzan books (there are tons of those movies out) and the Barsoom series (at least 3 movies (A Princess of Mars, John Carter, and can't think of the other one) of the first book have been made so I know there are a lot of things out there for him.

Nope. He directed: Hollow Man, RoboCop, Total Recall, and Starship Troopers (hmmm.... I'd have sworn there were more by him...). I think most of the rest of his work is drama/thriller type stuff. I don't think he's directed a horror film.

Absolutely! I meant to put his name down but just forgot!

H.G. Wells and Jules Verne would be a couple more for the "Written/inspired by" category. I've not looked back to see if we've used either before.

Also, The Land That Time Forgot, The People That Time Forgot, At The Earth's Core

Too many to quote, but everyone has posted good ideas. I'll work on the checklist this weekend, and possibly the banner too. With my mom's health problems, just haven't been motivated the past few days.

I'd never heard of Princess of Mars so I had to look it up. Ahhh.... an *Asylum* film... another piece of dreck produced to capitalize on a "Major Motion Picture" release (in this case, John Carter). Hmmm... sometimes these things can be bad/good campy fun... This one stars Antonio Sabato, Jr. and Traci Lords, has a few "good" reviews (of the "it's campy fun" type). I might have to seek out a copy... wait... did I just say that!?!?!

Yeah, I own it, and love the campiness of it. Granted, it's not the best of films, but it was a fun watch!

Checklist is updated. Sorry it took so long, but haven't felt that good lately.

Hey Shadokitty, good job on the list. I noticed that you have Hugh Marlowe in the actors twice. Also, we've had Edgar G. Ulmer and Charles Band on the list for years it seems like. Can we change one or both of them to someone else like maybe Edgar Rice Burrroughs and Jules Verne?

Done.

Looking good! Thanks for the hard work! I haven't been feeling the greatest the last couple weeks either-and it shows in the current challenge where I've barely watched anything.

Think that the higher numbers to complete the checklist look good. I do have one question/comment though-for the actors, do we want that high of a number? Maybe go down just a bit more for that one, like 23/33? Just seems like a high number of movies to hunt down...but honestly, if no one else objects, it can stay. Just a suggestion. (think my library is going to be seeing a lot of me for this challenge!)

Many of the actors overlap with other actors and/or directors/producers in the lists. I think there are a few I suggested where 2-4 can be knocked off with a single film. 26/33 is a bit over 20% leaving just under a 80% completion target. I think that sounds doable, especially if you can double-credit a few. Of course there *are* those participants who strive for *no* duplication so they'll have a more difficult time of it.

The other side of that coin is that to complete the checklist with the *minimum* needed without duplication means you pretty much need to concentrate on it exclusively as you need 93 films. I can see where looking for maximum checkage per film would be a good thing.

For reasons of aesthetics, could this section be formatted like the other "people" sections? Also, the people who are primarily directors could be simply be moved to that list unless we want to highlight these three directors.

BTW, awesome job with the checklist! Makes me excited to get started!

Yes, Shadokitty, you've done a fantastic job on the list. I can't wait to get started on watching movies! I've been holding off on watching anything scifi/fantasy until next month. I'm already working on my list of movies to watch!!

The reason I left it that way, is I don't really have a long list of writers or producers, but will look some up to expand to make it so I can make it formatted like the rest of the checklist.

For the most part, I have also held off on watching on any scifi or fantasy, but I have watched some Star Trek on occasion this month.

That sounds like a lot of work, and it's fine by me to leave it as is. Whatever works best!

Ok, we'll leave it as is. Next step, work on the banner. I have also contacted Goldenwheels about a possible sponsorship, but don't know of any other sponsors.

Hamiltonbooks is in as a sponsor.

List Thread is up.


Also, currently in the process of picking out prizes for the Challenge, and will hopefully get a chance to work on a banner this week some time.

Quick question-how is counting done for the checklist/watch list?