TV on DVD* Challenge - Season Four Discussion Thread
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That program is one of my guilty pleasures *because* of the insane leaps of logic the "experts" make! It's so laughable as to be a parody type program. I love how they automatically jump to the "aliens" solution for anything that has no "logical" explanation. You know: "Hey! This toy *looks* like it could fly so it must be modeled after a alien craft rather than anything that's found on Earth!" I constantly shake my head in wonderment that there are people who actually *believe* such theories, much less present them as "fact".
#377
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And yesterday brought another genre shift. This time to Alfred Hitchock Presents, another program I've not seen since the original airings. The difference here is I was too young to be allowed to watch this one and it wasn't until its later years that I saw any episodes at all. I only recall watching a few and at least one I recall was somewhat horror themed. That's not so with S2 (the only season of this one I own). It's more mystery based with *lots* of murder involved. Almost all episodes have a "twist" ending, although they're not the surprise I'm sure they were to late 50s audiences. That's only because much of what appears in those episodes has been redone to death since those initial airings (and many seemingly borrow from Poe on more than one occasion although not so much in the horror vein so if you've read Poe and/or Lovecraft you'll see some hints here and there). That's a series I've been meaning to watch so I can decide if I need/want more seasons in my collection. So far the *best* parts are those opens and closes with Hitchock which really makes it a tough decision. That's not to say the episodes are "bad" as they are not it's just that most are thematically familiar enough to be somewhat cliche', which is absolutely *not* fair to the series as in many cases they pretty much did it first! I'm 12 episodes into the season and feel I really need to view more before I'm able to make a good decision.
But... I'm going to take a short break and watch a few episodes of Merlin (BBC 2008). I picked up S1 a few years back for ~$10 and have opportunity to pick up a couple more seasons for about the same price so I really need to see if it's as good as reviews would have you believe.
But... I'm going to take a short break and watch a few episodes of Merlin (BBC 2008). I picked up S1 a few years back for ~$10 and have opportunity to pick up a couple more seasons for about the same price so I really need to see if it's as good as reviews would have you believe.
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[Ancient Aliens] is one of my guilty pleasures *because* of the insane leaps of logic the "experts" make! It's so laughable as to be a parody type program. I love how they automatically jump to the "aliens" solution for anything that has no "logical" explanation. You know: "Hey! This toy *looks* like it could fly so it must be modeled after a alien craft rather than anything that's found on Earth!" I constantly shake my head in wonderment that there are people who actually *believe* such theories, much less present them as "fact".
Huh? It's clearly a bird, so it's likely modeled on a BIRD!
Why are the wings aerodynamic? Maybe it's a toy. Maybe it's coincidence. Maybe it's because birds are aerodynamic...
Easily the best one was the gold semi-insects, though. Yes, they look interesting. Yes, if they're unlike other insect representations then that's interesting. But you can't prove they're flying saucers by building a bigger one, putting an engine inside the hollow shell and then saying that "a scale model flies, so it must be a model of a flying craft!" A model of almost anything with an engine inside will fly a little way. Honestly!
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Almost all episodes [of Alfred Hitchcock Presents] have a "twist" ending, although they're not the surprise I'm sure they were to late 50s audiences. That's only because much of what appears in those episodes has been redone to death since those initial airings (and many seemingly borrow from Poe on more than one occasion although not so much in the horror vein so if you've read Poe and/or Lovecraft you'll see some hints here and there). That's a series I've been meaning to watch so I can decide if I need/want more seasons in my collection. So far the *best* parts are those opens and closes with Hitchock which really makes it a tough decision. That's not to say the episodes are "bad" as they are not it's just that most are thematically familiar enough to be somewhat cliche', which is absolutely *not* fair to the series as in many cases they pretty much did it first!
That in turn makes me sad to think that some/many good early shows/films may fall by the wayside as they get redone as good/better and fade in people's memory. Things will always survive so long as there are people who remember them, but as 'first/original watchers' get fewer over time, their place may slip...
But... I'm going to take a short break and watch a few episodes of Merlin (BBC 2008). I picked up S1 a few years back for ~$10 and have opportunity to pick up a couple more seasons for about the same price so I really need to see if it's as good as reviews would have you believe.
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Amazon's Alpha House is hilarious. I had no idea it was created - and written - by Garry Trudeau. It's a good dig at American politics and a small handful of Senators in their (mostly-)off hours. I had high hopes for the Iannucci-fronted Veep, supposed to be the American equivalent of The Thick of It (in turn an update of Yes, Minister), and was thoroughly disappointed at the first episode last year.
So to find a better equivalent in Alpha House was a very pleasant surprise. I saw the pilot when it was brand new, and hoped it would make it, but it's take until now to watch the rest. And it's definitely worth it. There's heart amidst the satire, digs at both sides of the aisle (even if most are at the right) and some strong, believable performances.
Even to the point that, when there's a minor twist in the ninth episode, and a character gets praised for "not being crazy," the congratulatory news coverage immediately launches into one "news anchor" touting his book! So believable. So depressing...........
So to find a better equivalent in Alpha House was a very pleasant surprise. I saw the pilot when it was brand new, and hoped it would make it, but it's take until now to watch the rest. And it's definitely worth it. There's heart amidst the satire, digs at both sides of the aisle (even if most are at the right) and some strong, believable performances.
Even to the point that, when there's a minor twist in the ninth episode, and a character gets praised for "not being crazy," the congratulatory news coverage immediately launches into one "news anchor" touting his book! So believable. So depressing...........
#381
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Checklist: finished! Completing the "Tropes" section meant watching some of my favorite episodes of Frasier and one of my favorite holiday episodes of Modern Family. I also finished one of the advanced couch potato checkmarks: not counting any viewed material twice. Pretty proud of myself.
I'm also halfway through the second season of Twin Peaks and am curious to see which way things go. With all its genre-blending and enigmatic quirkiness, I'm finding it difficult to understand just how the hell this got onto television in 1990. It's great to see Don S. Davis as another military man. Makes me want to break out Stargate SG-1.
I'm also halfway through the second season of Twin Peaks and am curious to see which way things go. With all its genre-blending and enigmatic quirkiness, I'm finding it difficult to understand just how the hell this got onto television in 1990. It's great to see Don S. Davis as another military man. Makes me want to break out Stargate SG-1.
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I loved the two episodes. Alex's line to Ellen why he's in the train station is a classic.BTW, another episode that I love in that season is the one where Alex become jealous of Ellen's dance partner and comes for a dance tryout. His interpretation of the 1929 Stock Market Crash stills leaves me in stitches.
The whole month long, I have been mostly engrossed on Murder, She Wrote and based on that theme and a co-worker recommendation, I watched the first episode of Agatha Christie's Poirot. I found his character enjoyable with his little quirks but I'm still not sure if I'm going to continue with the show.
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I loved the two episodes. Alex's line to Ellen why he's in the train station is a classic.BTW, another episode that I love in that season is the one where Alex become jealous of Ellen's dance partner and comes for a dance tryout. His interpretation of the 1929 Stock Market Crash stills leaves me in stitches.

I decided to jump to the season finale you had talked about, but saw the disc started with a two-parter so tried that first.
Spoiler:
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So many great lines. "Ellen, you have a way of seeing right through me. I'm an economics major. I voted for Reagan. I'm in the Young Executives Club. I wear a jacket and tie everywhere I go. Except for train stations at 3 in the morning, in which case I wear a tuxedo." 
I decided to jump to the season finale you had talked about, but saw the disc started with a two-parter so tried that first.

I decided to jump to the season finale you had talked about, but saw the disc started with a two-parter so tried that first.
Spoiler:
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Amazon's Alpha House is hilarious. I had no idea it was created - and written - by Garry Trudeau. It's a good dig at American politics and a small handful of Senators in their (mostly-)off hours. I had high hopes for the Iannucci-fronted Veep, supposed to be the American equivalent of The Thick of It (in turn an update of Yes, Minister), and was thoroughly disappointed at the first episode last year.
So to find a better equivalent in Alpha House was a very pleasant surprise. I saw the pilot when it was brand new, and hoped it would make it, but it's take until now to watch the rest. And it's definitely worth it. There's heart amidst the satire, digs at both sides of the aisle (even if most are at the right) and some strong, believable performances.
Even to the point that, when there's a minor twist in the ninth episode, and a character gets praised for "not being crazy," the congratulatory news coverage immediately launches into one "news anchor" touting his book! So believable. So depressing...........
So to find a better equivalent in Alpha House was a very pleasant surprise. I saw the pilot when it was brand new, and hoped it would make it, but it's take until now to watch the rest. And it's definitely worth it. There's heart amidst the satire, digs at both sides of the aisle (even if most are at the right) and some strong, believable performances.
Even to the point that, when there's a minor twist in the ninth episode, and a character gets praised for "not being crazy," the congratulatory news coverage immediately launches into one "news anchor" touting his book! So believable. So depressing...........
#386
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I entirely forgot to comment on this a few nights ago when I actually watched it, but I revisited Star Trek 25th Anniversary Special, on VHS. Spoiler'd for length:
Spoiler:
#387
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In honor of Masahiro Tanaka coming to play for the New York Yankees, I watched an episode of the Japanese anime baseball series, "Star of the Giants" (1968).

Of course, I'm more interested in Mr. Tanaka's wife coming to the Bronx. In my household, SHE's the famous one in that family. She's a J-pop singer whom I've been following since 2005:
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...icle-1.1588412

Of course, I'm more interested in Mr. Tanaka's wife coming to the Bronx. In my household, SHE's the famous one in that family. She's a J-pop singer whom I've been following since 2005:
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...icle-1.1588412
#388
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I'd think it should look as good as or slightly better than a CRT on your HD set. Do you have it connected as composite or component? Component will give the better display if cabled properly. If you have another set of cables try switching them out and/or try a different input on your HDTV if one's available.
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Hey, Travis, I never watch the news, but did today because we're cold right now and of course, the pipeline burst in Canada for natural gas so our energy company has issued a emergency warning (we have to keep our temp at 60 and not use our gas appliances as much as possible-which, if we lived a lot further south, might not be an issue. However, I'm in WI and by 7 am, it's going to be -17 and that's without windchill which is trying to reach -50). So anyway, I was looking at the genres, and does this count for news magazine? I don't see any other place where it'd fit in...
Thanks!
Thanks!
#390
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And yesterday brought another genre shift. This time to Alfred Hitchock Presents, another program I've not seen since the original airings. The difference here is I was too young to be allowed to watch this one and it wasn't until its later years that I saw any episodes at all. I only recall watching a few and at least one I recall was somewhat horror themed. That's not so with S2 (the only season of this one I own). It's more mystery based with *lots* of murder involved. Almost all episodes have a "twist" ending, although they're not the surprise I'm sure they were to late 50s audiences. That's only because much of what appears in those episodes has been redone to death since those initial airings (and many seemingly borrow from Poe on more than one occasion although not so much in the horror vein so if you've read Poe and/or Lovecraft you'll see some hints here and there). That's a series I've been meaning to watch so I can decide if I need/want more seasons in my collection. So far the *best* parts are those opens and closes with Hitchock which really makes it a tough decision. That's not to say the episodes are "bad" as they are not it's just that most are thematically familiar enough to be somewhat cliche', which is absolutely *not* fair to the series as in many cases they pretty much did it first! I'm 12 episodes into the season and feel I really need to view more before I'm able to make a good decision.
It is said that television is a writer's/producer's medium, while movies are often considered to be a director's medium. Hitchcock directed a small number of Alfred Hitchcock Presents episodes, but I doubt that very many people could pick out which ones he did. The twenty odd minutes of a half hour show are not much time to establish a director's style, and a general aim of a TV series is consistency.
The problem with twist endings is that when they are expected, it's easier to see them coming, particularly in a program where there is 25 minutes to produce one.
I recall watching the 1980s Alfred Hitchcock Presents series, which involved remakes of episodes of the original series, using Hitchcock's introductions (colorized, I believe). It quickly seemed pointless to me. IMDB says it lasted four seasons (I would have guessed one, probably I didn't stick with it for the entire first season).
At this point it's late for me to start into Alfred Hitchcock Presents, as I already have several seasons of other series to finish, but maybe it will be a good choice for the Action/Adventure/Crime/Mystery Challenge.
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Yes, I often find and think that. Trying to put myself into a different mindset and imagine watching things in the "right" order, to better appreciate the plots/twists/pioneering skills that are often on show, but so utterly surpassed/redone as to be... lesser by comparison.
That in turn makes me sad to think that some/many good early shows/films may fall by the wayside as they get redone as good/better and fade in people's memory. Things will always survive so long as there are people who remember them, but as 'first/original watchers' get fewer over time, their place may slip...
That in turn makes me sad to think that some/many good early shows/films may fall by the wayside as they get redone as good/better and fade in people's memory. Things will always survive so long as there are people who remember them, but as 'first/original watchers' get fewer over time, their place may slip...
I try to judge each movie or show on its own merits. I find it silly that some people automatically dismiss remakes as inferior to the originals (particularly in the case of American remakes of foreign films) before the remake has been released, although my own reaction to hearing that a remake of a Hollywood classic is planned is usually, "Why?"
"Pioneering" is a key word. It's important to keep in mind the period a work is made in assessing its value and importance. In the case of movies, there isn't any need to worry about their reputation slipping. While this often happens with the general public, there are many scholars and fans who don't forget. In the case of television, I guess that things are forgotten much more than they should be. A lot of TV shows have found fans in new generations in syndication, but many more never get the chance.
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I'd think it should look as good as or slightly better than a CRT on your HD set. Do you have it connected as composite or component? Component will give the better display if cabled properly. If you have another set of cables try switching them out and/or try a different input on your HDTV if one's available.
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Hey, Travis, I never watch the news, but did today because we're cold right now and of course, the pipeline burst in Canada for natural gas so our energy company has issued a emergency warning (we have to keep our temp at 60 and not use our gas appliances as much as possible-which, if we lived a lot further south, might not be an issue. However, I'm in WI and by 7 am, it's going to be -17 and that's without windchill which is trying to reach -50). So anyway, I was looking at the genres, and does this count for news magazine? I don't see any other place where it'd fit in...
Thanks!
Thanks!
#393
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I've seen 135 TV episodes so far, with more than twice as many American episodes as Japanese episodes, largely due to my discovering so many old, previously unseen American shows on YouTube. Just last night I discovered color episodes of Science Fiction Theatre from 1955 on YouTube.
I've seen shows from every decade from the 1940s to the 2010s. I've seen shows from every letter of the alphabet. Over the weekend, I realized I still hadn't seen anything starting with I, O, Q or X, so I dug out the anime shows, Initial D, One Piece, Queen Millennia and X: The TV Series (based on the manga "X/1999") and watched those. Q and X would have been hard without those. I had no other option for Q and the only other option I had for X was the old X-Men animated series, from which I'd taped some episodes off the air a couple of decades ago and would have had to dig to find them. The X(TV) DVDs were much more accessible.
I've also seen anime shows from every decade from the 1960s (when they first started producing animated shows for TV) to the 2010s.
I've seen shows from every decade from the 1940s to the 2010s. I've seen shows from every letter of the alphabet. Over the weekend, I realized I still hadn't seen anything starting with I, O, Q or X, so I dug out the anime shows, Initial D, One Piece, Queen Millennia and X: The TV Series (based on the manga "X/1999") and watched those. Q and X would have been hard without those. I had no other option for Q and the only other option I had for X was the old X-Men animated series, from which I'd taped some episodes off the air a couple of decades ago and would have had to dig to find them. The X(TV) DVDs were much more accessible.
I've also seen anime shows from every decade from the 1960s (when they first started producing animated shows for TV) to the 2010s.
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Just finished the last episode on Disc 1 of Knight Rider, Season 1. You might say I finished Disc 2, as the discs are flipper discs. It seems to be a common theme at least in season 1 that Michael is getting in trouble with the law, though the last episode mixed it up and did an entire episode about Devon getting in trouble with the law.
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I've seen shows from every decade from the 1940s to the 2010s. I've seen shows from every letter of the alphabet. Over the weekend, I realized I still hadn't seen anything starting with I, O, Q or X, so I dug out the anime shows, Initial D, One Piece, Queen Millennia and X: The TV Series (based on the manga "X/1999") and watched those. Q and X would have been hard without those. I had no other option for Q and the only other option I had for X was the old X-Men animated series, from which I'd taped some episodes off the air a couple of decades ago and would have had to dig to find them. The X(TV) DVDs were much more accessible.
I've also seen anime shows from every decade from the 1960s (when they first started producing animated shows for TV) to the 2010s.
I've also seen anime shows from every decade from the 1960s (when they first started producing animated shows for TV) to the 2010s.
I received some Disney DVD sets over the weekend and watched some Goof Troop and Kim Possible. I was a mere lad of eight when Goof Troop was first on television and absolutely loved it. You could say I was obsessed to a point where I wrote fanfic and drew fan comics (fortunately lost to time). It's interesting to see the difference a decade makes in the level of animation. Kim Possible's animation is much more simplistic both in character design and color palette. And even though it is an action/adventure show, the setting are not as developed or varied as the two episodes of Goof Troop.
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Merlin - I've watched 7 episodes so far and it's not too bad. They've taken *great* liberties with the legend of Camelot/Arthur/Merlin/et al but nothing I can't overlook. After all it's *legend* and *not* actual history. The biggest hurdle to cross is that Arthur and Merlin are roughly the same age. Other than that it's pretty standard fantasy material updated for modern times. Yes, it's pretty cheesy at times, but that's to be expected in such programs. I've actually been awaiting the Renaissance Pictures end logo most of the time as it really feels, and looks, like it could have been produced by that group (who *did* produce Legend of the Seeker, another series for which I have a unopened season 1 awaiting viewing). I ordered season 2 and 3 as so far season 1 has been good, cheesy, fun and reviews I've read on DVDTalk and DVDVerdict speak well of the upcoming seasons. I'll probably finish season 1 before the week is out and try to get Alfred Hitchock Presents season 2 completed as well.
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I failed to mention that Merlin being young and inexperienced is one of the draws for the program. He's depicted as a *natural* sorcerer who want's to learn the proper way to do things as well as learn spells he's never heard of. He wants to *grow* as a sorcerer but Uther has outlawed the use of magic because of what the Druids had done to the country with their use of Black Magic. To use magic is to court death as that's the penalty Uther hands down if you are caught. Arthur is Uther's right-hand-man in the search for use of magic and Merlin has been "assigned" to Arthur as his "manservant" as a "reward" for saving his life. It was also a surprise to see Richard Wilson (One Foot in the Grave) in the role of Gaius, the royal physician and Arthur's confidant/mentor/protector. He plays the role very well.
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Yeah, I've had this issue with the few VHS tapes I've watched on it. Having to buy a head cleaner in 2014...the future ain't what it used to be!
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At long last, LJG765 and I finally got to Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country late last night! From my Letterboxd diary:
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Just cleared 90 with a few days to go. I'm going to have to step it up a bit here to hit triple digits.
Meh. Granted there were about 24 episodes in this season which is slightly more than they'd do today, but it might have been standard back in the day. I watched a couple more episodes, including one with Tracy Pollan pretending to be a burnout. Ooh, so trashy! 
From the date, I thought it might be related to the San Francisco Giants' Masanori Murakami, but I see the Yomiuri logos.
I'm not familiar with Goof Troop, but one of my kids used to love Kim Possible, and I admit I watched it too--even a few times on my own.
It's clever and so much less annoying than most of the kid fare of its time, and I liked the spy angle.

I received some Disney DVD sets over the weekend and watched some Goof Troop and Kim Possible. I was a mere lad of eight when Goof Troop was first on television and absolutely loved it. You could say I was obsessed to a point where I wrote fanfic and drew fan comics (fortunately lost to time). It's interesting to see the difference a decade makes in the level of animation. Kim Possible's animation is much more simplistic both in character design and color palette. And even though it is an action/adventure show, the setting are not as developed or varied as the two episodes of Goof Troop.
It's clever and so much less annoying than most of the kid fare of its time, and I liked the spy angle.



