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Old 02-14-11 | 05:17 PM
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I find it kind of funny that everyone is ragging on this guy for the whole opinion/fact thing he's been talking about, yet when his opinion is that he doesn't like the Godfather, everyone gets pissed and tries to show him he's wrong.

The Godfather bored me when I watched it the first time, and I've never watched it since. So it just isn't everyone's cup of tea, or whatever that saying is.
I really couldnt care less what he thinks about the Godfather. The issue I have with this guy, is that he somehow thinks that his opinion is fact, while others opinions are worthless.
I'm not going to try and convince him he is wrong about the Godfather, as well as many other movies that he listed. It is enough for me to know that he is wrong.
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Old 02-14-11 | 06:06 PM
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I haven't seen Held Up
It has Jamie Foxx and is a pretty corny movie, but I've always enjoyed it.

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and I haven't seen all of Life but from the portions that I have seen I'm not sure I understand why it would be a guilty pleasure; it seemed pretty good to me.
I'm glad to see others around here also enjoyed that movie. I thought the general consensus was that it was a bad movie, so that's sort of why I listed it. I've never thought that though, it's always been one of those movies I'll catch on TV whenever I see it coming on. I need to buy it on DVD, but I always put it off.

I guess my definition of guilty pleasure might be a little off, because I never really feel guilty about enjoying any movie.
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Old 02-14-11 | 06:52 PM
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Re: Guilty Pleasures ?

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I really couldnt care less what he thinks about the Godfather. The issue I have with this guy, is that he somehow thinks that his opinion is fact, while others opinions are worthless.
I'm not going to try and convince him he is wrong about the Godfather, as well as many other movies that he listed. It is enough for me to know that he is wrong.
I have NEVER said that my opinions are facts or that other opinions are worthless. I don't appreciate this horrible, baseless attack for no reason.
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Old 02-14-11 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jjcool
I really couldnt care less what he thinks about the Godfather. The issue I have with this guy, is that he somehow thinks that his opinion is fact, while others opinions are worthless.
I'm not going to try and convince him he is wrong about the Godfather, as well as many other movies that he listed. It is enough for me to know that he is wrong.
I am not wrong, jjcool. Neither about Godfather or any of the other movies I've spoken of. It's an opinion. Opinions, by their very nature, cannot be wrong. I know full well that people have different thoughts about Godfather and all the movies I mentioned. I never said they were stupid opinions nor did I ever call the people that have them stupid. I merely expressed that I don't like these certain movies. That's all I've done. How dare you call me wrong ? I could very well do the same for whatever movies you like...but I would never do that. I could give you my thoughts on those movies, but I would never say that you don't pay attention to the movies or that you're wrong for having a certain opinion. Are you really the kind of person that thinks they know better than other "small minded" people ?
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Old 02-14-11 | 07:49 PM
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I have NEVER said that my opinions are facts or that other opinions are worthless. I don't appreciate this horrible, baseless attack for no reason.
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How is stating the fact that Godfather is boring being childish ? Since when is expressing an honest fact childish ?
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Don't get "fact" mixed up with "opinion."
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I'm not. Godfather IS boring.
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Nothing I've said about Natalie Portman is merely taste and opinion. It's fact. She's a bad actress.
I'd say it's time to just throw in the towel or the thread will just keep
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Old 02-14-11 | 07:54 PM
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How DARE you! Just leave me alone! Facts are facts!
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Old 02-14-11 | 08:59 PM
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The Godfather IS boring. That's a fact. But that doesn't mean it's a bad movie. There are lots of boring things that I like just fine. PBS documentaries, for example. But that doesn't mean they're bad. Just boring. There is absolutely nothing wrong with saying that. Natalie Portman is a bad actress. Every character she plays is just the same. With most actor/actresses that are even a bit good, you can suspend belief and see the character in the movie. But with Natalie Portman, she acts the same in every movie. You watch her and think "that's Natalie Portman" not "I love that character." If you can't buy the reality of a character, you can't get into the movie or show. Nothing I've said is wrong. You may all now kiss my ass....except for TehOH1.
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Old 02-14-11 | 09:07 PM
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I think you're mistaking Halle Berry for Natalie Portman.

If you think Princess Amadala in The Phantom Menace and her character from Leon are even close to being the same, it is a fact that you are wrong. Case closed.
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Old 02-14-11 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Spottedfeather
I have NEVER said that my opinions are facts or that other opinions are worthless. I don't appreciate this horrible, baseless attack for no reason.
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The Godfather IS boring. That's a fact. But that doesn't mean it's a bad movie. There are lots of boring things that I like just fine. PBS documentaries, for example. But that doesn't mean they're bad. Just boring. There is absolutely nothing wrong with saying that. Natalie Portman is a bad actress. Every character she plays is just the same. With most actor/actresses that are even a bit good, you can suspend belief and see the character in the movie. But with Natalie Portman, she acts the same in every movie. You watch her and think "that's Natalie Portman" not "I love that character." If you can't buy the reality of a character, you can't get into the movie or show. Nothing I've said is wrong. You may all now kiss my ass....except for TehOH1.


Seriously? Boring is subjective. Some people find certain things boring while others do not. It is your opinion that a movie is boring; it is not a fact that a movie is boring. How are you failing to understand the distinction?

Evaluating someone's acting also comes down to opinion. I think Natalie Portman has proven herself quite the capable actress and has really thrown herself into roles. Perhaps you just haven't seen her in enough things? In everything I've seen her in, she has portrayed significantly different characters and I never once thought, "Oh, it's Natalie Portman," but instead actually believed the character she had portrayed. In Black Swan, Closer, Leon, My Blueberry Nights, V For Vendetta, and Hotel Chevalier she portrays drastically different characters. And then there's her hilarious rap video, which is another "character" that is unlike the rest she has portrayed. I don't quite understand how you can say she acts the same in all of her movies, but you're welcome to think that if you'd like. Just stop claiming it is a fact, when it is your opinion.
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Old 02-14-11 | 10:18 PM
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I just luv this thread. I find the defendant, Spottedfeather, guilty if it pleasures the court
By the by, I also loved the Godfather when it was first released and just watched it again after many years last week. I rank it amongst the top 3 movies of all time. Perfect acting,cinematography, and for a 3 hour film perfectly paced, nary a wasted scene.
I can't fathom someone dismissing this film along with Scarface and Pulp Fiction and speaking up for Water World and Transformers. But to each their own.
However I'm totally befuddled about Spot's rule on WWII movies as being too recent to be of interest
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Old 02-14-11 | 11:01 PM
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BTW, why is this mess of a thread in DVDtalk when it has nothing to do with DVDs?
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Old 02-14-11 | 11:04 PM
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The Godfather IS boring. That's a fact. But that doesn't mean it's a bad movie. There are lots of boring things that I like just fine. PBS documentaries, for example. But that doesn't mean they're bad. Just boring. There is absolutely nothing wrong with saying that. Natalie Portman is a bad actress. Every character she plays is just the same. With most actor/actresses that are even a bit good, you can suspend belief and see the character in the movie. But with Natalie Portman, she acts the same in every movie. You watch her and think "that's Natalie Portman" not "I love that character." If you can't buy the reality of a character, you can't get into the movie or show. Nothing I've said is wrong. You may all now kiss my ass....except for TehOH1.
Ha ha, I thought you started that other thread.

BUSTED!!!!

And that's a fact! Doing that other account to do the same thing pretty much shows everyone you're just trolling. You just had to go and ruin it, didn't you?
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Old 02-14-11 | 11:06 PM
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BTW, why is this mess of a thread in DVDtalk when it has nothing to do with DVDs?
For the same reason the "Last TV show you watched" thread is in DVDtalk?
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Old 02-14-11 | 11:22 PM
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The last TV show you watched may have been on DVD
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Old 02-14-11 | 11:34 PM
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BTW, why is this mess of a thread in DVDtalk when it has nothing to do with DVDs?
You know, I wondered that when I first came to this thread but figured that TV shows could be guilty pleasures, too, so maybe it didn't need to be a movie-specific thread (ergo, not in the Movies forum). Before I had time to really even contemplate that, the whole thing took on a life of its own and I'd have been hard pressed to tell you what the hell this thread was supposed to about. I seriously wish that someone would excise the entire debate with Spottedfeather and create a new thread of just that ongoing conversation. I don't even know why, but it's my favorite thing online lately. I like it more than conversing with celebrities on Twitter and looking at shamelessly dorky cosplay photos on Deviant Art.

Which reminds me...
You may all now kiss my ass....except for TehOH1.
I gotta say, this stung. Even though I've debated the other side of the table from you, I thought I'd been respectful, cordial and even generous.
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I don't even know why, but it's my favorite thing online lately.

I admire your candor.
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Let's just say, for the sake of argument, that Natalie Portman does "act the same" in every movie. In no way does that in itself denote that she's a "bad" actress. Poor range maybe, but not "bad". As long as she nails a particular role, who cares how different she appears to act from film to film?
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Old 02-15-11 | 12:30 AM
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Let's just say, for the sake of argument, that Natalie Portman does "act the same" in every movie. In no way does that in itself denote that she's a "bad" actress. Poor range maybe, but not "bad". As long as she nails a particular role, who cares how different she appears to act from film to film?
Thank you ! That's exactly what I was trying to say. My mind being the way it is, sometimes it's really hard for me to find the correct words to say something. Looking back through this thread, I realize that I didn't explain my points as well as I could have. I'm sorry for getting up in everyone's face. I didn't think I did, but obviously most people thought so. Again, I'm sorry. Compared to most people, I'm a bit slower and it's pretty hard to express myself the way I'm thinking it in my head.
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