Laurel and Hardy ?
 

I tried to do a search, but am surprised that I can't seem to find

1) most L&H sound shorts. Only a couple were released with the sub-par Koch discs. They had DOZENS of these made - many are hilarious.

2) their silents. Image had a 10 disc, bare bones set years ago, and these are now OOP. Think there is almost 40 of these silents made.

It seems that only available are the later full length movies, which are the worst examples of their incredible career.

Chaplin, Keaton, even Arbuckle and Chase are out on DVD..

Where is L&H?

Or are these available and I just can't seem to find them?

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Most of their sound films are owned by Hallmark and they don't understand or respect the value of their classic film holdings. The silents are privately held and their status is a mystery to me.

The only solution is to buy a multi-region player that does PAL conversion, then read this thread:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/internation...tion-info.html

then go to Amazon UK and buy the box set which is currently selling for less than $60 US shipped.

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thanks. ordered the UK set for $47 shipped..

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I believe the UK set is missing the following

Fra Diablo
Bonnie Scotland
Jitterbugs
Dancing Master
A haunting we will go
Bullfights (aka Atoll K)
Big Noise
Babes in Toyland
Flying Dueces

All but the last 2 are available in R1 from WB.

so ..

1)what about Babe in Toyland? Didn't see that in R1. ?? The only version I know of is a R2 Swedish version! Is this really true?

2) And Deuces has crappy PD and even the Kino version hasn't gotten good reviews. Any advice for that one?

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The last two films re betterthan not having them at all, but yes, I heard rave reviews on the 21-disc L&H British set, but you'll need a multi-regio DVD player, which you can get for about 50-100 bucks, depending on the name brand and featuresnyou want on the thing.

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MGM put out a great looking Babes in Toyland just a couple of years ago. Try looking under it's alternate title of "March of the Wooden Soldiers". Legend Films also has a colorized version available, if you're into that sort of thing.

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I can second the MGM release of Babes in Toyland / March of the Wooden Soldiers

AFAIK, the Kino version of Flying Deuces is the best available in R1. I have it and I think is ok, but could be better. I haven't revisited this title in a long time so I don't know if a better version exists.

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Thanks. Looks like I have a complete wish list now!

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Steve,

You'll really like that British set...you can't get any more complete of L&H than that set and the way it's being distributed around here and for that price, how can you go wrong? But again, multi-region players are also on the cheap now as Amazon.com has a Toshiba one for about 45 bucks last I saw.

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I just ordered the 21-disc set myself right now from Amazon.uk. I hear the set doesn't come with the booklets anymore and the packaging is different (cheaper looking). Oh well.....

Btw, I saw a Laurel & Hardy (short or feature) years ago where they r both sitting on a bench in a hedge maze (like in THE SHINING) and this guy dressed up as a ghost is taunting them from behind. Which film is that (or short)?

Pbishop69

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Btw, what's the best Region 1 version of MARCH OF THE WOODEN SOLDIERS?


Pbishop69

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IMHO it's the MGM, hands down.

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Having never seen either so I can't comment on the MGM vs. Legend but the Legend version does include the B&W version as well. (you may not be implying it is only the color version, just thought I would throw it in there).

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I didn't really consider the implication that Legend is only a color version. However, if the B/W is of interest, then there's really no point to getting the Legend release as it's inferior to the MGM. So, in that sense, color seemed to be the only draw to me.

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Price could be a draw too. Unsure of these specific release prices, but they could be drastically different. Also, the Legend release may have Mike Nelson commentary.

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my box set just shipped from UK! Can't believe I am getting this SHIPPED for $47. Insane deal.. heck with the booklets, just me and my daughter watch these films!!

Yipee!

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Understood. Was really just throwing it out there.

I think they are both pretty cheap through secondary sources. I don't have it right in front of me but it isn't a riff trax.

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PBishop69,

The short you're referring to is The Live Ghost. Steve, you won't regret it as you and your daughter will just love this set and at that price, I'm tempted to buy it as well.

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You're probably confirming there that it isn't what I'm about to mention, but just to be safe, and to bring the matter to light:

I know there are a few Legend releases that aren't official Rifftaxes, but have a Mike Nelson solo commentary. I know a Three Stooges disc they did has one, and at least a couple others.

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Next time I'll just be more thorough with my explanation. The MSRP for both the Legend version and the MGM are identical, so price is not a factor. The MGM is bare bones and the Legend includes a trailer and some public domain stuff. Neither have a commentary. At the end of the day, I concluded that the extras in the Legend release didn't overcome the superior MGM presentation. It is certainly possible that someone else could come up with a different conclusion, but when asked which version is better, it seemed like an easy answer.

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A Chump at Oxford

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Thanx RKillgore!! Rmw650 says it's THE LIVE GHOST. So it's definitely A CHUMP AT OXFORD then?


Pbishop69

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I think the previous poster is right PBishop, as you didn't metnion the maze part of it...my fault and error. It was Chump at Oxford, which is a film.

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Just got my UK box set.. Didn't realize they were in slim cases. Box not any where near as big as I expected (which is a good thing to me).

Watched Tit For Tat. Great transfer!

My only beef with this set is that they are not done chronologically - and I didn't anything that gave an overall index to what is on what disc.. so it's a pain to find a particular short.

But there is even a stills gallery from hats off - which i didn't think ANYTHING survived on that film!!

Truly a great box set!!

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I get mine tomorrow, Steve. I really wish they would still include the booklet with a possible index of what is on each disc. It would just make things easier. Oh well...



Pbishop69

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Yeah, I ended up printing out a list of what films were on each DVD and sticking it in the box. It was irritating having to pull out and check every individual case to find a specific short.

Otherwise, great set.

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Guiys and gals,

Be careful with amazon.uk and its pricing as they just raised the price of the set to L39.93, which at the current rate of exchange is now about $62.08 in USA money. I hate when they do this!

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Hey Steve!!

I got mine today. Was the box to your set split open along the sides? Mine was. Looks like I'm returning it. Oh well....


Pbishop69

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I'm glad I'm finding all this important info out before placing an order for the set myself. Thanks for the heads-up guys.

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Is there another retailer who sells Region 2 dvds where I can buy this set instead of Amazon.uk?


Pbishop69

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Amazon.uk has traditionally been excellent about replacing damaged merchandise. It's not unusual for them to tell you to just keep the damaged item while they send you a new one due to the high cost of sending it back. Just FYI.

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Thanx Mdnitoil!! I'm going to give that a shot.

Pbishop69

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I just found out, Amazon.uk is sending me a replacement. Again, I can't tell if this damage to the L & H outer box was caused by UPS shipping or not. It's really hard to tell. The box that it was shipped in was definitely beaten up quite a bit. But that's UPS for ya. Honestly, I trust the post office more than I do UPS anymore regarding my item coming in one piece these days.


Pbishop69

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wow! my box was packed with paper in a typical sturdy Amazon box.. not a dent.

somewhat related.. if you have a big lots near you, they are currently selling TCM L&H archives (bonnie scotland, fra diablo) and fox L&H set (air raid wardens?) for $6 each..

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I wish I can find that set at Big Lots though here in Chicago...still no luck...BUT I also bit on the 21-disc set. Couldn't pass that deal up either and getting a new multi-region player as well.

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I spent a lot of time and created an chronological index of the 21 box set. made some comments in a spreadsheet if anyone wants that version, just send me a pm

Enjoy!

Silent Films

Year Disc Name
1926 9 Along Came Auntie
1926 21 Thundering Fleas
1926 12 Forty Five Minutes From Hollywood
1927 21 Fluttering Hearts
1927 21 Prudence
1927 12 Duck Soup
1927 10 Slipping Wives
1927 8 Love 'Em And Weep
1927 16 Why Girls Love Sailors
1927 7 With Love And Hisses
1927 16 Sailors, Beware!
1927 20 Do Detectives Think?
1927 17 Flying Elephants
1927 8 Sugar Daddies
1927 12 Call Of The Cuckoo
1927 12 The Second Hundred Years
1927 14 Hats Off
1927 15 Putting Pants On Philip
1927 19 The Battle Of The Century
1928 2 Leave 'Em Laughing
1928 14 The Finishing Touch
1928 1 From Soup To Nuts
1928 11 You're Darn Tootin'
1928 13 Their Purple Moment
1928 7 Should Married Men Go Home?
1928 8 Early To Bed
1928 16 Two Tars
1928 20 Habeas Corpus
1928 13 We Faw Down
1929 20 Liberty
1929 20 Wrong Again
1929 9 That's My Wife
1929 12 Big Business
1929 14 Double Whoopee
1929 6 Berth Marks
1929 16 Men O'War
1929 2 Perfect Day
1929 2 They Go Boom
1929 20 Bacon Grabbers
1929 20 Angora Love

Sound Films

Year Disc Name
1929 7 Unaccustomed As We Are
1929 19 The Hoose-Gow
1930 12 Night Owls
1930 12 Ladrones
1930 18 Blotto
1930 18 La Vida Nocturna
1930 18 Be Big!
1930 18 Los Calaveras
1930 21 Brats
1930 5 Brats
1930 11 Below Zero
1930 11 Tiembla Y Titubea
1930 6 The Laurel - Hardy Murder Case
1930 6 Noche De Duendes
1930 14 Hog Wild
1930 1 Another Fine Mess
1931 8 Chickens Come Home
1931 8 Politiquerias
1931 10 Laughing Gravy
1931 10 Laughing Gravy
1931 10 Les Carottiers
1931 4 Our Wife
1931 8 Come Clean
1931 19 Pardon Us
1931 21 Hinter Schloss Und Riegel
1931 3 One Good Turn
1931 4 Beau Hunks
1931 9 On The Loose
1932 4 Helpmates
1932 16 Any Old Port!
1932 14 The Music Box
1932 17 The Chimp
1932 2 County Hospital
1932 12 Scram!
1932 15 Pack Up Your Troubles
1932 15 Their First Mistake
1932 16 Towed In A Hole
1933 5 Twice Two
1933 4 Me And My Pal
1933 20 The Midnight Patrol
1933 14 Busy Bodies
1933 14 Dirty Work
1933 13 Sons Of The Desert
1934 6 Oliver The Eight -
1934 20 Going Bye-Bye!
1934 2 Them Thar Hills
1934 16 The Live Ghost
1935 2 Tit For Tat
1935 10 The Fixer-Uppers
1935 3 Thicker Than Water
1936 9 The Bohemian Girl
1936 5 Our Relations
1936 13 On The Wrong Trek
1937 3 Way Out West
1938 17 Swiss Miss
1938 7 Block-Heads
1940 1 A Chump At Oxford
1940 11 Saps At Sea
1992 21 A Tribute To The Boys

p.s. Here is the list of the order in the box set. http://www.laurelandhardy.org/newDVDREV.html

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On a side note, I found some missing shorts/fims that are not in the box sets and not anywhere else, as far as I can tell.

1929 Hollywood Review of 1929 - Cameo
1930 Rogue Song - Full length movie - in color! Listed as the only L&H feature no longer in existence.
1934 Hollywood Party. L&H full length movie. Supposedly one of their weakest efforts, but still would like to see it.
1937 Pick a Star. Full length movie. While not starring L&H, there were in 2 long sequences.

If anybody knows anything about these, I would appreciate it.

Thank you.

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Thanx Steve. This list will help. I'll check on those other short/features too. My replacement copy is supposed to come today. We'll see how that goes. I have absolutely no faith in UPS anymore.


Pbishop69

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Hey Steve! Just got my replacement set from UPS about a half hour ago. First of all, the box Amazon shipped the set in was in so much better condition than the last one. Night and day. Oh yeah, and to my surprise, Amazon.uk shipped it overnight. That was nice of them. Anyway, as I held my breath when I took the set out of the box, I was relieved that the L & H outer box WAS NOT split open on the sides like my last one. But I still wasn't happy yet. I had to open all 21 cases and inspect them to make sure the discs weren't floating around in their cases with the possiblity of being scratched. If u only knew how many times that's happened to me. To my surprise EVERYTHING was ok. Thank God that saga is over with. Hopefully I'll start watching some of these very soon. Looks like a great set.

Pbishop69

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I just got my set in today and I am impressed with this. That's the main reaosn why I got a new multi-region player...just for this set. I don't care about the outer end of the box being split as I can tapew that up, but my main concern was the discs themselves and they all looked pristine. Going to start watching it this week. Steve, thank you for the listings as well and for you guys giving me the heads-up on this. Without you guys, I wiouldn't have known this set existed.