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Old 07-23-10 | 03:08 PM
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I have to admit that I like more specific checklists, though this year's SF challenge is the first time I've participated so I'll probably change my mind after a few more. I like looking at what people selected for different entries, especially when I'm stumped for what to watch. It's also nudges me to try something I wouldn't have otherwise. There's also more of a challenge to finishing it off. Finding a movie that starts with GHI is pretty trivial, but unearthing a movie from the 'parallel universe' sub-genre can take a bit of digging.

I totally agree that the checklist items shouldn't be too specific, and Trevor makes a good point about not going into too many nooks. Some of items are pretty limited in the SF Challenge (I'm having a hard time finding a non-Firefly/Serenity Space Western) but then there weren't a lot of people talking about it before hand and Peppers did give us a chance to comment. I'd like a mix of more and less specific entries so it would still be hard to complete, but not as hard as the 100 movie main goal.

Trevor made a nice suggestion:

Watch an anime movie or show
Watch a theatrical short (i.e Tom and Jerry, Bugs Bunny)
That brings up an interesting point: should an entry that doesn't count as a 'movie' entry be allowed to count on the checklist? Of course people can do what they want, but I'd tend to say 'no'. I think the checklist rules should be the same as the regular list rules: (about) 90 minutes = one movie.

How about this:

Watch an anime movie (or 4 episodes of a sereis)
Watch theatrical shorts or (a movie).

As for Miyazaki, I can't believe I missed that one. I'm even saving Ponyo for next month. D'oh!

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Old 07-23-10 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by John Sinnott
(I'm having a had time finding a non-Firefly/Serenity Space Western)
I was thinking the same thing, but Outland would probably qualify. (West World or Back to the Future III also came to mind as sci-fi Westerns, but they're not "space.")
Old 07-23-10 | 07:35 PM
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I haven't participated in a challenge since the Academy Award one in the beginning of the year, but this one intrigues me. However I just recently got a new job and have very little time to do anything, so we'll see what I can do.
Old 07-25-10 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by John Sinnott
Some of items are pretty limited in the SF Challenge (I'm having a hard time finding a non-Firefly/Serenity Space Western)
In case you missed it, there's 3 wildcards for the checklist. Don't know if that helps any.

Originally Posted by John Sinnott
Still looking for checklist suggestions? Here's a few you might want to consider:

Watch and anime movie or series
Watch a US kid's show that originally aired on Sat mornings
Puppet show
Mostly or all CGI
Watch 90+ minutes worth of theatrical shorts (i.e Tom and Jerry, Bugs Bunny)
Cartoon based on a newspaper comic strip

These genres:
Superhero cartoon
Comedy
Adventure
Fantasy
SF


Watch a movie/show made by:

Walt Disney
Chuck Jones
Ub Iwerks (??)
Ralph Bakshi
Fleischer Brothers
Paul Dini

And of course one from each decade.

Just some ideas to get the conversation started.
Thanks for the ides. I didn't abandon this thread, honest

I just got back from vacation
Old 07-25-10 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by davidh777
I was thinking the same thing, but Outland would probably qualify. (West World or Back to the Future III also came to mind as sci-fi Westerns, but they're not "space.")
Wild Wild West
Old 07-26-10 | 08:59 PM
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Old 07-26-10 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by John Sinnott
That brings up an interesting point: should an entry that doesn't count as a 'movie' entry be allowed to count on the checklist? Of course people can do what they want, but I'd tend to say 'no'. I think the checklist rules should be the same as the regular list rules: (about) 90 minutes = one movie.

How about this:

Watch an anime movie (or 4 episodes of a sereis)
Watch theatrical shorts or (a movie).

As for Miyazaki, I can't believe I missed that one. I'm even saving Ponyo for next month. D'oh!
I'm thinking of doing a generic section that requires full length things and then, if I can think of enough, another section of more detailed items where any length counts.
Old 07-26-10 | 10:15 PM
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So I went with a generic checklist because I'm incredibly lazy and I'm busy doing the sci-fi challenge, of course! Items marked - length doesn't matter mean that items of any length count. If it doesn't have that, you either need something full length or enough short items to count as an entry.

We'll see how this works out and change it for next year if needed. Any suggestions to the checklist before the challenge starts are always welcome.
Old 07-27-10 | 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by davidh777
I was thinking the same thing, but Outland would probably qualify. (West World or Back to the Future III also came to mind as sci-fi Westerns, but they're not "space.")
Cowboy Bebop would be another one.
Old 07-27-10 | 10:23 PM
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Old 07-27-10 | 10:29 PM
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I'm not sure what everyone else has planned but I'm starting off with some short toons followed by feature films, mostly Disney stuff I haven't seen. After that it's all special effects type stuff. Pretty much just going with whatever I'm in the mood for.
Old 07-27-10 | 10:51 PM
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I'm still horribly disappointed I wasn't able to even participate in, much less host, the Historical challenge as I'd planned, and I've missed most of the Sci-Fi (though I intend to cram some stuff in for my own enjoyment in these last few days). Animation in August sounds good, and the chance to score some ThunderCats? Too cool for school!
Old 07-28-10 | 02:15 AM
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Old 07-28-10 | 11:00 AM
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and the extended cut of AVATAR comes out at the end of August to select IMAX theaters - woohoo (and it sounds like it counts )
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Originally Posted by John Sinnott
Still looking for checklist suggestions? Here's a few you might want to consider:

Watch and anime movie or series
Watch a US kid's show that originally aired on Sat mornings
Puppet show
Mostly or all CGI
Watch 90+ minutes worth of theatrical shorts (i.e Tom and Jerry, Bugs Bunny)
Cartoon based on a newspaper comic strip

These genres:
Superhero cartoon
Comedy
Adventure
Fantasy
SF


Watch a movie/show made by:

Walt Disney
Chuck Jones
Ub Iwerks (??)
Ralph Bakshi
Fleischer Brothers
Paul Dini

And of course one from each decade.

Just some ideas to get the conversation started.

I'd add 'watch a live action movie based on an animated series/film'
Old 07-28-10 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Giles
I'd add 'watch a live action movie based on an animated series/film'
Is there a large amount of easily accessible ones of those?
Old 07-28-10 | 12:01 PM
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probably not, but it gives folk a chance to personally research the topic.
Old 07-28-10 | 04:02 PM
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Off-topic stuff from list thread below.
Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum
Which thread is the best one for asking questions, this one or the discussion thread?
Originally Posted by Trevor
Read that again slowly and you'll have your answer.

Non-smartass answer: The discussion tread. Historically, Challenge lists threads are for the lists only. Anything else, including comments on the list thread and it's posts, goes into the discussion thread.
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I'm surprised that Ash asked that
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Another question:

In the lists thread, do we put lists of the stuff we've watched or potential checklists for others to follow? Or both?
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both
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Question about counting entries:

I have lots of anime tapes that have multiple eps. of a series on them. Some have three eps., some have four, some have 5. One even has six (150 min.!) What I would like to do is count each tape with multiple eps. as a separate item, rather than count the eps. and try to separate them out and add them up. It'll all average out in the long run to 100 items. But it saves me a lot of effort if I count each tape as a separate item.

Is that okay?
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Reading comprehension and rule following are not his strong suits today. Or yours. Or mine.

Seriously though, we three should delete all these posts and/or move them to the discussion thread.
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touche how true
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now that's all out of the way, let's all delete these posts they are beginning to clutter up the 'List' thread

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why'd you put our little discussion in spoiler form?
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why'd you put our little discussion in spoiler form?
Not really sure. I changed it.
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Originally Posted by Giles
I'd add 'watch a live action movie based on an animated series/film'
I can actually think of a decent number (and I'm sure there are many more), but the majority of them are pretty crappy...
  • Alvin And The Chipmunks
  • Boris And Natasha: The Movie
  • Dudley Do-Right
  • Fat Albert
  • The Flintstones
  • The Flintstones In Viva Rock Vegas
  • Garfield
  • Garfield: A Tale Of Two Kitties
  • George Of The Jungle
  • Inspector Gadget
  • Lupin The 3rd: Strange Psychokinetic Strategy
  • Mr. Magoo
  • Scooby Doo
  • Scooby Doo 2: Monsters Unleashed

Granted, some of them have animation in them, but they're still mostly live-action. But even without the CGI Characters, there's still some solely live-action titles in there. I didn't include Space Jam or Looney Tunes: Back In Action since the characters are pretty much carbon copies (appearance-wise) of their Shorts counterparts. Again, most are crappy, but it is what it is.

I actually think the Speed Racer movie should count as animation. Sure, the characters weren't animated, but everything else was just about as animated as it gets.
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(All right, I deleted my post in the List thread and am trying again here.)

Question about counting entries:

I have lots of anime tapes that have multiple eps. of a series on them. Some have three eps., some have four, some have 5. One even has six (150 min.!) What I would like to do is count each tape with multiple eps. as a separate item, rather than count the eps. and try to separate them out and add them up. It'll all average out in the long run to 100 items. But it saves me a lot of effort if I count each tape as a separate item.

Is that okay?

With DVD sets, it's different because you sometimes get 7 eps. per disc, so I'd rather do the four eps.=1 item math there.
Old 07-28-10 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum
(All right, I deleted my post in the List thread and am trying again here.)

Question about counting entries:

I have lots of anime tapes that have multiple eps. of a series on them. Some have three eps., some have four, some have 5. One even has six (150 min.!) What I would like to do is count each tape with multiple eps. as a separate item, rather than count the eps. and try to separate them out and add them up. It'll all average out in the long run to 100 items. But it saves me a lot of effort if I count each tape as a separate item.

Is that okay?

With DVD sets, it's different because you sometimes get 7 eps. per disc, so I'd rather do the four eps.=1 item math there.
My personal opinion, if they are separate episodes, list them. Let's say there is one episode of the 5 episodes on one of the tapes that was amazing and you want to comment on it. If you just say "Anime Tape #4" it doesn't really mean a whole lot, but if you actually reference the episode(s) it seems more meaningful, and you could comment on that particular episode.
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A few days ago I started making a list of some of the animated shows I thought would be fun to watch for this challenge. I slowly realized that I have a shitload of animated shows and I hardly ever watch anything animated! I think 80% of the animated shows I own are ones I watched when I was a kid and subconsciously I can't resist buying them when they are released. I.e. "Captain N is on DVD, oh my god, I used to LOVE that show on Saturday mornings!" Yet, I have hardly ever put any of those shows in the DVD player to actually watch.

I'm definitely looking forward to this challenge to catch-up / revisit many of these titles. The problem is that I have SO many, I won't even make a dent in them.... but it will be fun trying.

Here are some of the titles I'm looking forward to the most:
Spawn
The Real Ghostbusters
Bananaman (this will most likely be a HUGE letdown)
Captain N
Dungeons & Dragons
Space Ghost: Coast to Coast
Dr. Katz, Professional Therapist
Special note: DuckTales is probably my favorite of all time, but I'm still waiting for the final volume to be released

Other titles, if anyone is interested for ideas:
Futurama, ATHF, Family Guy, American Dad, Robot Chicken, The Brak Show, South Park, He-Man/She-Ra, The Simpsons, Clerks Animated, The Critic, Captain N, Legend of Zelda, The Mario Bros. shows, Sam & Max (never actually saw this show, but LOVED the computer game)

Still waiting for additional releases to complete the collection: DuckTales, Darkwing Duck, Popeye. I can't start series anymore unless I have the whole collection, just a rule I have for myself.

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Old 07-28-10 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Numes
My personal opinion, if they are separate episodes, list them. Let's say there is one episode of the 5 episodes on one of the tapes that was amazing and you want to comment on it. If you just say "Anime Tape #4" it doesn't really mean a whole lot, but if you actually reference the episode(s) it seems more meaningful, and you could comment on that particular episode.
This is how I'd go and a great reason for it.

Originally Posted by Numes
Bananaman (this will most likely be a HUGE letdown)
I hated Danger Mouse with a passion but sat through it just to watch Bananaman, which was the second half of the show.


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