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Old 06-13-10 | 02:54 AM
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Agreed. Of all the French heist movies I've seen, Bob le flambeur is the greatest.
Rififi would like to have a word with you.
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but I understand that your comment has less to do with any actual lack of understanding than it does a need to post smug self-satisfied snark like this to feel better about your superiority.
Please, I beat up handicapped children & kick puppies to feel better about my superiority. Its not like I make lengthy posts analyzing someone's brief comment (that others agree with) and then try sounding like a message board psychiatrist to feel better about one's superiority. That would be really pathetic.
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Rififi would like to have a word with you.
Rififi is great. I've just always preferred Bob a little more. It has a coolness to it that makes me want to crawl inside the movie and live there.
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Please, I beat up handicapped children & kick puppies to feel better about my superiority. Its not like I make lengthy posts analyzing someone's brief comment (that others agree with) and then try sounding like a message board psychiatrist to feel better about one's superiority. That would be really pathetic.
Only one person agreed with your comment and they made a faulty assumption that people didn't want to see the movie before the announcement. Criterion releases a lot of product and items are moved up and down the priority list. I had most of these titles but there were still a few that I was waiting for the B & N sale. You need to remember that this Studio Canal situation is only a recent development and there hasn't been any Criterion sales since the majority of titles have gone oop.

But you say you have no clue why people go nuts when one of these announcements are made? I think it's a pretty simple concept that people don't want to pay high prices down the road for items they want.
Old 06-13-10 | 11:23 AM
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But you say you have no clue why people go nuts when one of these announcements are made? I think it's a pretty simple concept that people don't want to pay high prices down the road for items they want.
You just made my exact point. If it is just an issue of money you have had 2 sales where the titles on this OOP could have been had for $10 -15. If you are waiting because you do not want to spend more money in the end, why would you not buy the titles you supposively "really want" when they are at a lower price then they have ever been or ever will be? Plus they are "criterion" titles which have always had a reputation for going out of print anyway. I'm sorry if it isn't nice to say, but there are a lot of people that have a collector mentality just because of the "OOP" factor. Same reason there are people that literally buy every single Criterion.
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Re: New Round of Criterion OOP Announcements

Originally Posted by Sessa17
You just made my exact point. If it is just an issue of money you have had 2 sales where the titles on this OOP could have been had for $10 -15. If you are waiting because you do not want to spend more money in the end, why would you not buy the titles you supposively "really want" when they are at a lower price then they have ever been or ever will be? Plus they are "criterion" titles which have always had a reputation for going out of print anyway. I'm sorry if it isn't nice to say, but there are a lot of people that have a collector mentality just because of the "OOP" factor. Same reason there are people that literally buy every single Criterion.
Speaking for myself, and a lot of others I imagine, there are hundreds of Criterions that I want. Yes, there have been a few good sales the last year or so, but I couldn't afford to buy everything I wanted.

Threads/posts alerting me to titles going out of print are great, as they give me a chance to try to find them before they disappear or get too expensive.

For me, it's nothing about resale, it's figuring out when to buy things.

Many favorite titles, not just Criterions, I wait on, prefering to buy things that may go OOP later, or may not go on sale often.

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Speaking for myself, and a lot of others I imagine, there are hundreds of Criterions that I want. Yes, their have been a few good sales the last year or so, but I couldn't afford to buy everything I wanted.

Threads/posts alerting me to titles going out of print are great, as they give me a chance to try to find them before they disappear or get too expensive.
Well, your a good man Trevor & I respect that mindset. I guess I'm just the weird one then, that when I see titles on my wish-list on sale at great prices like Criterions have been, I buy them all to take advantage of the low price at that moment. When those B&N sales happened, I literally bought every single movie on my wish-lists at the time. I don't see the point in waiting in hopes that they could have possible been cheaper than $10-$15.
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Well, your a good man Trevor & I respect that mindset. I guess I'm just the weird one then, that when I see titles on my wish-list on sale at great prices like Criterions have been, I buy them all to take advantage of the low price at that moment. When those B&N sales happened, I literally bought every single movie on my wish-lists at the time. I don't see the point in waiting in hopes that they could have possible been cheaper than $10-$15.
Not weird at all, your logic makes sense, but a lot of it depends on how many titles you want. So to get boring, repititive, and specific with the Criterions, here's my thinking:

I want pretty much all of them, but over the years have purchased very few, as sales were rare. The B&N sales last year were like crack, and I purchased 200 or so between the two sales. Yes, I maybe could have bought the other 200 I want, but I'm not rich, and pretty much over did it as it was. Plus to maximize my cheapness, I only bought a few a day due to coupon limitations. As it was, I pretty much maxed out my possible separate trips to the stores and coupon usage, I physically could not have bought many more at the coupon prices. I tried to pick up any that were OOP or rumored to be OOP soon. So this announcement gives me a chance to pay a little more than July's prices but get them before they disappear and get too pricey.
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I agree. If you didn't want to watch it before, why worry about it now? Personally, I have absolutely no desire to see any of the movies on the list.
This.

Though I do know how much it sucks to have to fight to get a copy of something that is going/already out of print.
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Originally Posted by Sessa17
Well, your a good man Trevor & I respect that mindset. I guess I'm just the weird one then, that when I see titles on my wish-list on sale at great prices like Criterions have been, I buy them all to take advantage of the low price at that moment. When those B&N sales happened, I literally bought every single movie on my wish-lists at the time. I don't see the point in waiting in hopes that they could have possible been cheaper than $10-$15.
Okay, next month I'll go out to my money tree so I can finish off my Criterion list....it should only be a couple grand.....everyone has that laying around to spend on dvds, right?

Sets
1. Berlin Alexanderplatz - $124.95
2. Roberto Rossellini’s War Trilogy - $79.95
3. Three Silent Classics by Josef von Sternberg - $79.95
4. Letters From Fontainhas – Three Films by Pedro Costa - $79.95
5. Andrzej Wajda – Three War Films - $79.95
6. Fassbinder’s BRD Trilogy - $79.95
7. Nikkatsu Noir (Eclipse) - $69.95
8. Postwar Kurosawa (Eclipse) - $69.95
9. Kenji Mizoguchi’s Fallen Women (Eclipse) - $59.95
10. Travels With Hiroshi Shimizu (Eclipse) - $59.95
11. Presenting Sacha Guitry (Eclipse #22) - $59.95
12. Golden Age of Television - $49.95
13. Battle of Algiers - $49.95
14. Delirious Fictions of William Klein (Eclipse #9) - $44.95
15. Dusan Makavejev- Free Radical (Eclipse #18) - $44.95
16. George Bernard Shaw on Film (Eclipse #20) - $44.95

Blu Ray
1. Videodrome (fall)
2. Seven Samurai (fall)
3. Charade (fall)
4. Thin Red Line (fall)
5. Hausu (September)
6. The Red Shoes (7/20)
7. Black Narcissus (7/20)
8. Everlasting Moments (6/29)
9. The Leopard (6/29)
10. Red Desert (6/22)
11. Mystery Train
12. By Brakhage: An Anthology
13. Vivre sa vie
14. Sanjuro
15. Playtime
16. 8 ½
17. Howard’s End
18. Days of Heaven
19. Kagemusha
20. Bottle Rocket
21. In the Realm of the Senses
22. 400 Blows
23. Gimme Shelter
24. For All Mankind
25. Last Year at Marienbad

$39.95
1. La Haine (Studio Canal)
2. Mouchette (Studio Canal)
3. Fugitive Kind
4. Night on Earth
5. Homicide
6. My Dinner With Andre
7. Mishima
8. Slacker
9. Science is Fiction – 23 Films by Jean Painleve
10. An Angel at My Table
11. If…
12. The Devil & Daniel Webster
13. Great Expectations
14. Oliver Twist
15. Sullivan’s Travels
16. Trouble in Paradise
17. Ace in the Hole
18. The Killers
19. F For Fake
20. The Blob
21. Elevator to the Gallows
22. Fiend without a Face
23. Virgin Spring
24. Knife in the Water
25. Sawdust and Tinsel
26. Pickpocket
27. Rules of the Game
28. Children of Paradise
29. Passion of Joan of Arc
30. Beauty and the Beast
31. L’Eclisse
32. Les Dames du Bois de Boulogne
33. Jules & Jim
34. Breathless
35. Exterminating Angel
36. Viridiana
37. Hands Over the City
38. La Strada
39. Mamma Roma
40. Testament of Dr. Mabuse
41. Sweet Movie
42. Ali: Fear Eats the Soul
43. Double Life of Veronique
44. The Lower Depths
45. Throne of Blood
46. High and Low
47. Ikiru
48. Late Spring
49. Tokyo Story
50. Early Summer
51. An Autumn Afternoon
52. Story of a Prostitute

$29.95
1. Night Train to Munich
2. Touchez Pas au Grisbi (Studio Canal)
3. Bob le Flambeur (Studio Canal)
4. The Milky Way (Studio Canal)
5. Mafioso (Studio Canal)
6. Classe Tous Risques (Studio Canal)
7. Big Deal on Madonna Street (Studio Canal)
8. The Last Wave
9. Dillinger is Dead
10. Empire of Passion
11. Unfaithfully Yours
12. Pickup on South Street
13. Kicking and Screaming
14. La Bete Humaine
15. The Children are Watching Us
16. Au Hasard Balthazar
17. The Lovers
18. The Fire Within
19. Band of Outsiders
20. Le Coup De Grace
21. Le Samourai
22. Rififi
23. Mon Uncle
24. M. Hulot’s Holiday
25. Smiles of A Summer Night
26. Insomnia
27. The Vanishing
28. Onibaba
29. The Pornographers
30. Il Posto
31. La Commare Secca
32. Fists in Pocket
33. Ivan’s Childhood
34. Maitresse
35. Night Porter
36. Paddle to the Sea
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Okay, next month I'll go out to my money tree so I can finish off my Criterion list....it should only be a couple grand.....everyone has that laying around to spend on dvds, right?
Don't forget the 8% cashback from Bing!
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Okay, next month I'll go out to my money tree so I can finish off my Criterion list....it should only be a couple grand.....everyone has that laying around to spend on dvds, right?
I calculated all that to be roughly $5,597.50 so it really shouldn't be too difficult to grab all those up in a month or so.
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Okay, next month I'll go out to my money tree so I can finish off my Criterion list....it should only be a couple grand.....everyone has that laying around to spend on dvds, right?
Well, you really need to learn how to bargain hunt. During the last B&N sale, with the 50% off combined with the coupons in the Bargain forum, I picked up sets for about $20-$22 each, and the $39.95 discs were available for about $18-$13 each and the $29.95 discs for around $12 to $8, depending if the clerks took my coupon, which was very much hit or miss.

For the combined July/November B&N Criterion sales, I picked up 18 DVDs and 6 sets. Here's what I bought and what I paid:

1. Blast of Silence $12.13
2. The Thief of Bagdad $13.49
3. The Complete Monterey Festival Box-Blu $28.86
4. Nikkatsu Noir (Eclipse) $28.10
5. Postwar Kurosawa (Eclipse) $23.10
6. Kenji Mizoguchi’s Fallen Women (Eclipse) - $20.66
7. Battle of Algiers $22.50
8. Last Year at Marienbad $13.49
9. My Dinner With Andre $13.49
10. High and Low $13.49
11. Short Cuts $8.93
12. Wings of Desire $13.49
13. Vampyr $18.80
14. The Carlos Saura Flamenco Trilogy (Eclipse) $22.46
15. The Friends of Eddie Coyle $8.93
16. The Hit $12.10
17. Fiend Without A Face $13.49
18. Salo $13.49
19. Army of Shadows $13.49
20. Floating Weeds $13.49
21. Mishima $13.49
22. Danton $13.49
22. The Seventh Seal $12.10
23. The Last Emperor 4-Disc Box $22.50
24. Dodes'ka-Den $8.93

Altogether, this cost me $383.67. With the B1G1 sales Deep Discount had, plus price glitches at Amazon which let me buy some Criterions for around $10 apiece, I've managed to add over 100 Criterions and Eclipse sets to my collection.

It's doable if you pay attention here and at other bargain sites.

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I don't think you're getting it... He as well as all of us are already aware of the B&N sale. Thats what we're waiting for to take advantage of to the fullest extent. Brizz's problem is that he doesnt have the time nor the funds to pick up the 100+ titles in his wishlist. That is why he must PRIORITIZE his picks. The priorities in the wishlist get shifted around when theres an OOP announcement.

Some posters in this thread are clueless on the concept on wishlists. When theres a sale like the B&N sale, people like me can't splurge on 20+ titles because we live on a tight budget and/or don't have the time to go to different stores with all the coupons. That is why we PRIORITIZE.

Word of the day: PRIORITIZE.
All of us have wishlists--some of us work on them, whittling the list down a few discs at a time, so we don't get blindsided by sudden OOP announcements because we've been buying all along. As I pointed out, there have been Criterion deals from various sources for a long time, all of which I discovered by checking the Bargain forum here.

My point remains: you and Brizz need to learn to bargain hunt. And, yes, sometimes that involves going to different stores with coupons, although I found most deals online.
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He as well as all of us are already aware of the B&N sale.
If so, then he should realize that he will be paying 50% of the prices he quoted, less if there are applicable coupons this time around.

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Wow, this is a whole lot of angst over what was originally just a snarky little comment.

Personally, I'm off the hook this time around because I'm not particularly interested in anything on the pending OOP list. I was concerned some more Powell/Pressburger titles might be on it that I haven't gotten to, but I appear to be in luck.
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I don't think you're getting it... He as well as all of us are already aware of the B&N sale. Thats what we're waiting for to take advantage of to the fullest extent. Brizz's problem is that he doesnt have the time nor the funds to pick up the 100+ titles in his wishlist. That is why he must PRIORITIZE his picks. The priorities in the wishlist get shifted around when theres an OOP announcement.

Some posters in this thread are clueless on the concept on wishlists. When theres a sale like the B&N sale, people like me can't splurge on 20+ titles because we live on a tight budget and/or don't have the time to go to different stores with all the coupons. That is why we PRIORITIZE.

Word of the day: PRIORITIZE.
You have it right here.

Originally Posted by Gobear
All of us have wishlists--some of us work on them, whittling the list down a few discs at a time, so we don't get blindsided by sudden OOP announcements because we've been buying all along. As I pointed out, there have been Criterion deals from various sources for a long time, all of which I discovered by checking the Bargain forum here.

My point remains: you and Brizz need to learn to bargain hunt. And, yes, sometimes that involves going to different stores with coupons, although I found most deals online.

If so, then he should realize that he will be paying 50% of the prices he quoted, less if there are applicable coupons this time around.
You didn't get what Joe Camel was saying. Even if you cut it down to 50% of the prices that Joe listed that's still nearly three grand. There is still a price to be paid when bargain hunting. Maybe that's not a lot to you but to some folks it is.

This was just Brizz's DVD wish list, I'm sure there are other things he wants as well. Just because you have a wish list doesn't mean you can knock off twenty or thirty titles every paycheck. It's a gradual thing that you have to keep chipping away at when you can. I don't see what's so hard about understanding the concept of prioritizing.

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I calculated all that to be roughly $5,597.50 so it really shouldn't be too difficult to grab all those up in a month or so.
Just cut back on the lattes and you'll be fine, Brizz. I've decided to not pay rent in July or August, so that should help me complete my Criterion wishlist.
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Originally Posted by Gobear
All of us have wishlists--some of us work on them, whittling the list down a few discs at a time, so we don't get blindsided by sudden OOP announcements because we've been buying all along. As I pointed out, there have been Criterion deals from various sources for a long time, all of which I discovered by checking the Bargain forum here.

My point remains: you and Brizz need to learn to bargain hunt. And, yes, sometimes that involves going to different stores with coupons, although I found most deals online.

If so, then he should realize that he will be paying 50% of the prices he quoted, less if there are applicable coupons this time around.
I do bargain hunt....which is why I own 150 Criterions as it is....but that doesn't mean I can afford to buy ALL of those that I desire....I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand.

Even half off criterions cost money. so I can get twice as many as normal is good...it doesn't mean I can afford 120 of them...it means I can afford 10 or 15 if i'm lucky. hence the need to PRIORITIZE.
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For those of you hoping Criterion will offer these titles at a larger discount on their website like with the last wave:
Originally Posted by Criterion on Facebook
They're already discounted 20% off SRP, but beyond that, no plans...
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For those of you hoping Criterion will offer these titles at a larger discount on their website like with the last wave:
Thanks, I was wondering.
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incredibly, some people have not been able to buy every criterion release that they want to each month they are released for the last ten years. other people have only recently, or in the last few years even, been introduced to such films and have had to purchase older releases as they can, rarely in quantities or with a frequency that they would prefer. There are also other companies that release dvds and blu rays that sometimes may take precedence over a catalog release from criterion, so that further lengthens the wishlist and makes picking and choosing difficult.

Thus, when - completely unexpectedly - five titles you have long coveted but put off buying for various reasons and financial realities are announced to be going out of print in 2 weeks and you know the history of values increasing dramatically once they are gone from stores, it creates a sensation of anxiety and haste for consumers to rush to buy the films they want to own - for if they don't now, they may not get to later. It's really not that difficult a concept all around, but I understand that your comment has less to do with any actual lack of understanding than it does a need to post smug self-satisfied snark like this to feel better about your superiority.
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Since the DeepDiscount sale is over, what's the best prices for these soon-to-be OOPs?
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IF you can hold your breath!

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Re: New Round of Criterion OOP Announcements

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You have it right here.


You didn't get what Joe Camel was saying. Even if you cut it down to 50% of the prices that Joe listed that's still nearly three grand. There is still a price to be paid when bargain hunting. Maybe that's not a lot to you but to some folks it is.

This was just Brizz's DVD wish list, I'm sure there are other things he wants as well. Just because you have a wish list doesn't mean you can knock off twenty or thirty titles every paycheck. It's a gradual thing that you have to keep chipping away at when you can. I don't see what's so hard about understanding the concept of prioritizing.
thanks for seeing the logic there...and just to make the point further - that's merely my CRITERION wish list - and does not include any of the dozens of blu rays and hundreds of other titles overall that I also have on my big overall wishlist - further draining funds I can dedicate to buying any and every CC release I want on any kind of whim.

This really is the silliest argument ever...
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Hello Friends!!

I really wish that Criterion would put out the film noir DETOUR (1945). I want to see this film real bad, but all the dvd versions out there I hear r pretty bad. We'll see...


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