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dvd active has just announced the dvd release:
http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releas...alvation2.html

ok, now warner has pushed it to a point where i am furious!!
they are releasing a 1disc dvd with theatrical cut only and
a 3disc bluray set which includes directors cut as well!!
are they really that desperate to sell bluray!!??
the only justice for that shady move is that the movie failed at
the box office :)
since about 90% of customers still purchase dvd and don`t feel
like being "forced" into bluray, i hope i am not that only one
extremely upset about this release. well, i guess another email
to the customer department, which will as always remain unanswered
anyhow!

i hate to use harsh language in this forum, but

F U C K Y O U W A R N E R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: terminator salvation 12/1
 

Wonder what import options there will be for this release.

But yeah, the studios really need to think of another way to push BR instead of alienating the same people that propped their business up for ten years. At least put out a limited multiple disc DVD release. It's the wrong kind of incentive to encourage switching over formats.

Re: terminator salvation 12/1
 

The only part of your post I would dispute is this: which seems like an arbitrary number, and when you add in the second half of the sentence, unprovable.

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Ya know. I am not even mad at this point cause honestly the Blu-ray looks like shit also and Warner Brothers has the worst New Release releases of any major or, hell ,even most independent companies. The people putting together need to be fired or worse.
This is just an inexcusable release for DVD AND Blu-ray owners.

Re: terminator salvation 12/1
 

They will always give more advantage to the newer and more advanced format so I don't understand why be too upset with this. It has always happened and when a more advanced format than Blu-ray comes out they will do it again.

I'm loving all the extras on the Blu and this will be a first day purchase for me. Too bad that the release comes in December though. It's almost 7 months after the movie was released at the theaters.

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Not to threadcrap, but why would WB pull shenanigans like this with such an awful film? I could see them doing that with a hit film like The Hangover that will be in high demand on release day, but T:S is the kind of movie you'll find on the 2 for 10 rack in a couple of months after release. Moreover, T:S's grey-on-grey color scheme lacks the visual oomph that Blu-Ray is intended to showcase.

Re: terminator salvation 12/1
 

Here's my thoughts on all this exclusive BD stuff: :crap:

Warner's really starting to piss me RTFO with this.

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According to the DVD actve link in the posts the UK edition on dvd will also only be getting the theatrical cut as well with the DC a blu-ray exclusive also.
Hmmmm...I know that this will make me think twice about supporting ANY Warner Bros theatrical production in the future and when I do go out to see a Warner Bros movie I think I will pay for another movie and then go see the WB movie without them getting a cent of my money. Lets see how they like getting F'ed in the A .
I dont know how else those naughty doggies will learn.

Re: terminator salvation 12/1
 

Sweet! WB really knows how to put together great blu-rays. Can't wait!

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And this is why I don't buy movies on DVD anymore.

I was fully prepared to buy Salvation on DVD, but giving the SD a 1-disc, and the blu-ray a 3-disc is just a disgrace. Unless someone gets a steelbook of this movie, it ain't happening.

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Yeah a couple of featurettes on the Blu-ray is definitely what I call loaded! -wink-
Who needs those days of multiple audio commentaries and full-length documentaries. We got 2 featurettes!!!!!
I remember a day not too long ago when a title like this could have came out on DVD with all the same features and it still would have been a very very weak DVD.
I dont see why any Blu-ray owner could be happy with this release either.

Re: terminator salvation 12/1
 

Sony is the distributor for overseas

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I know.

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I'm happy because it includes the optional Director's cut. Hopefully it actually adds some substance.

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Worldwide box office: $371,319,429

Not quite a fail.

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If you look at the current sales numbers blu-ray is up by nearly 80% from last year and DVD is down almost 25% from this time last year.

As much as it sucks it seems like the studios want blu-ray to be the future for DVD collectors. Leaving off the director's cut on the SD is a bitch move, but Warner also probable realizes that 80% of the people who purchase the SD won't even know that a director's cut is blu-ray only, or won't care.

Re: terminator salvation 12/1
 

I'm fine with what they're doing because I realize technology moves forward. I had a massive VHS collection, kept the stuff that's not on DVD and upgraded the rest.

If it's not people complaining about DVDs being replaced they're complaining that there's newer versions of Windows that isn't XP.

Re: terminator salvation 12/1
 

I didn't see this in theaters and was going to buy the DVD, but since they're screwing us DVD owners I won't be doing that. Which is fine. Terminator has been mediocre at best without Arnold Schwarzenegger anyway.

Re: terminator salvation 12/1
 

Hey, if you want to hate on the BD specs just to try and make yourself feel better, knock yourself out....

However, you might want to consider a few things first:
1. The running times of the featurettes have not yet been announced, and the one not on the DVD (Re-Forging the Future) could be lengthier and better then the one the DVD did get...
2. The contents of the "Resist or Be Terminated” Video Archive on disc 2 were not detailed...this also could be extensive so it seems rather silly to just dismiss it beforehand...
3. The "Maximum Movie Mode" with Focus Points on disc 1 could also be quite a worthwhile feature, as this same extra was quite well received and highly lauded on the WATCHMEN BD release....

This isn't even considering that apparently the director's extended cut will only be on BD....right now as a BD owner, on paper I am happy with what I see for this release...people really should wait to complain once ALL the details emerge, but of course, that is not the true way of teh interwebz....

Re: terminator salvation 12/1
 

So you would have bought the DVD with the theatrical cut, but only if the BD also contained just the theatrical cut?

Re: terminator salvation 12/1
 

funny, everyone who doesn`t mind this shady release policy owns a bluray player :)
at least there are some more considerate bluray owners who still
don`t support warners release policy even though they don`t purchase dvd anymore,but
still feel it is a shit move!
i am the last one who minds better new technology, but is it sooo difficult
to release a dvd product that also makes the many customers, who still
purchase that format happy?
watchmen was also released as a 2 disc special edition with a nice lenticular
slipsleeve on dvd, so i guess warner is very much capable of bringing
out a satisfactory dvd set if they want to!!
do you think it will be more people now switching to bluray because
the want the terminator salvation directors cut, or more dvd buyers
pissed off at warner!?
for gods sake, at least release the directors cut on single disc like they did with
the friday the 13th killer cut!!
this is really fuckin over dvd owners big time and i hope it hurts them financially!!
why are other studios bringing out summer blockbusters like transformers 2, star trek, etc in 2disc sets as well!? probably because they realize that
there is still a strong market they don`t want to lose out on.
don`t forget you are in a dvd forum for film fanatics, who will usually be the
first ones to switch to new technology, but i am sure the average buyer
mass market still wants the dvd.

Re: terminator salvation 12/1
 

This will definitly be a nice addition to my steadily growing blu ray collection

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I wouldn't buy a DVD, Blu-Ray, or film print of the theatrical cut after hearing the director of Charlie's Angels shoot his wad over the director's cut.

Re: terminator salvation 12/1
 

I just finally bought Terminator 3 for $2.40 at Half-Price books. Guess how I'll be buying this one?

Re: terminator salvation 12/1
 

How?

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I'll rent it and wait until I can buy it for cheap. I understand why DVD is getting screwed over and I understand why Blu-Ray versions have more extras (especially of the type that can't be produced on DVD) but making the director's cut BR exclusive is pretty crappy.

At least it's with a movie where the only thing substantial removed was Moon Bloodgood's goodies.

Re: terminator salvation 12/1
 

Those same people have moved onto Blu-ray.

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weak move... and these companies wonder why people use the $1 redbox or download the films.

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BD will go up asDVD owners adopt BD. It's not a shocking new development and if you even look at the figure you will see how little Blu-ray actually makes. They hide behind those %s.

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Really, what percentage of people who use Redbox, do so because sometimes Blu rays get extra features?

Not sure what the big deal is. BDs cost more than DVDs, so the fact they sometimes contain extra features makes sense. If you are interested in the extra stuff, then spend more to get it. To say you want the cheap version, but also demand all the features as the most expensive version, is a little naive.

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They do because there is no incentive to buy a movie at full price. The release prices are already overpriced, but if there is some incentive to buy it then I don't mind it as much cause I like collecting movies but when they pull a move like this I wont buy into it. I'll see this movie again and also own a blu-ray player down the road if it sticks around, but when the studios do stuff like this then I'll pass on the full price new release cause there are other options to enjoy the movie and those are the ones the studios are constantly complaining are hurting them. IMO they hurt themselves.

Re: terminator salvation 12/1
 

If you are buying the Blu-Ray, visit this thread....

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/hd-talk/561...n-dec-1st.html

and join in on the other elitists who are laughing at everyone in this thread. Mwahahaha! I personally dont see what the fuck is so funny.

otherwise, I don't see why DVD owners are not entitled to bitch about this stupid practice. I had no intentions of picking this up anyways, but it has happened to films I do like, so it DOES fucking piss me off, especially since we are talking a completely different cut of the film that DVD owners are going to completely miss out on.

Fuck you WB.

Re: terminator salvation 12/1
 

^Exactly. Now for example I will not be purchasing it at all.
Also I will show my frustration by telling others not to support certain WB titles and at best only Netflixing them if they must.
Also when I go see Invictus and/or Sherlock Holmes in theaters I will be paying to see The ROad or Nine in stead.

Re: terminator salvation 12/1
 

Instead of wasting our time in this thread does anyone know Of a way to send nasty e-mails to WB. I would just like to know why they must do this from them and feel we who spend $ on their products are treated unfairly.
Is there an e-mail account for them to address this issue?

Re: terminator salvation 12/1
 

Mostly you come off like someone bitching about movies not coming out on VHS anymore. It is just the way things are. Some movies only come out on DVD, but you don't see mass panic from those who prefer blu ray.

If you choose not to go with blu ray, then you can't bitch when stuff comes out only on blu ray. Or you can get a BD player and then not worry about this stuff anymore. Life is too short to worry about little stuff like this.

Re: terminator salvation 12/1
 

Really? All of them?

Beacause out of every 50 people I know who own DVD players, i'd say one has gone Blu.

Blu-Ray is a great format, and I will make the change once they get some better catalogue titles out, and the prices drop a weee bit, but honestly, and this may sound a bit immature, practices like this really make me hesitant about adopting a new format. Studios should start taking their customers a little more seriously. I dont want to go out a spend $1000 bucks to a studio, who for the past two years, has been giving me the shaft.

Re: terminator salvation 12/1
 

Huh?


I really don't like the VHS comparison. I happily switched formats then. This is not the same thing at all.


And yeah, that's the way things are, but it's not the way it should be. It's not like i'm demanding for the film to be split over 7 DVDs so they can stick 1080p video and a lossless audio track on there. These are extra features, and shit related to the actual content of a film. It makes me just as pissed off when they dont port over extras from the DVD to the Blu.

Re: terminator salvation 12/1
 

Once you understand how business works maybe you will understand why WB and all the other studios are doing this. It will only get worst, I can guarantee you that. I have specs and dates for several other titles that will be announced shortly that will make your blood vessels boil.

Re: terminator salvation 12/1
 

Not counting your circle of friends many people who adopted DVD because of superior picture, audio and the introduction (to many) of special features have moved on to Blu-ray. It's just the natural course for someone who wants to own movies with the best of everything.

And Blu-ray players are very cheap now, so that excuse is pretty BS. You can grab a rockin' Panasonic or Sony for $200 or less and if you don't care about BD-Live there are some fantastic 1.1 players at $150 or less.

Re: terminator salvation 12/1
 

What exactly is going to cost you $1000? Not the BD player or the discs, certainly, and buying a new 1080p TV really has nothing to do with Warner. It seems almost inevitable that sometime within the next ten years, you would buy a new TV.I could have sworn you claimed you sent emails about all the other Warner exclusives you were angry about, or you stated your intention to. Did you end up getting lazy?This is true. WB's goal is likely not to shaft the consumer, just to focus DVD at Joe Six Pack/Wal-Mart Customer, who rarely buys DVDs for the special features. I admit, there's no reason the DVD shouldn't have both cuts, but aside from that, the lack of special features is unfortunate but unsurprising.Arnold is in the movie, sorta.This is true. Despite chris's complaint, Maximum Movie Mode is both a) a video commentary and b) one that may not be possible to replicate on DVD (I presume the BD version will be PiP, any DVD version would have to be a "Follow the White Rabbit"-style click-feature).I would be shocked if even one other person adopts this strategy, and it is even less likely that it will work. Even if you had a big enough crowd doing this to make a statement, it doesn't make logical sense; WB wouldn't have any idea how to react to such a stunt.