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pacaway 09-09-20 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Travis McClain (Post 13801547)
I floated an idea in the Criterion discussion thread, and wanted to cross-post it here. I've been wondering of late whether maybe it would be worth considering revamping that challenge as a wider Boutique Distributor Challenge. Because we accept content that has been selected to stream on the Criterion Channel, that's more or less what it has become by default now anyway. A lot of the Channel content has been licensed from distributors such as Arrow Video; Cohen Film Collection; Kino Lorber; Milestone/Oscilloscope; Scream/Shout Factory; and the defunct Twilight Time, as well as the Sony Selects and Warner Archive Collection MOD programs. (If we voted now, I'd be against including Sony and Warner carte blanche because those are large enough to exceed the intended smaller scope of the challenge.)

I bring this up because as much as I love the Criterion Challenge, participation is easily the lowest of all the challenges. Always has been, and is damn near barely alive by now. Some of that has to do with the community itself disintegrating, but the Horror Challenge is alive and well so our fellow forum members do still remember their login credentials. I feel like there are a lot of forum participants who collect and watch all kinds of content that's eligible for the challenge as it already stands, but abstain because their perception is that if it isn't Bergman, Fellini, or Kurosawa that they're shut out. I hate that, because you could also be watching and talking about Anna Biller, Jackie Chan, MGM Musicals, or movies with scores by Quincy Jones. None of those themes come across from the words "Criterion Challenge".

Could we vote on and add only 1 a year? Make it special, like the R&R Hall of Fame. Not flood the challenge with new distributors all at once but add a new worthy one each year. Just a suggestion.

Travis McClain 09-09-20 01:12 PM

Re: "Official" DVDTalk Challenges Compendium
 

Originally Posted by pacaway (Post 13802505)
Could we vote on and add only 1 a year? Make it special, like the R&R Hall of Fame. Not flood the challenge with new distributors all at once but add a new worthy one each year. Just a suggestion.

The problem is that Criterion has effectively already done this via the Channel. Suppose we voted to induct Arrow Video in 2021. Well, a ton of Oscilloscope content is still going to be eligible anyway as it's already been on the Channel. What would we accomplish by withholding formal recognition of Oscilloscope? Also, if these distributors have been deemed worthy of inclusion on the Channel, oughtn't that be good enough to determine worthiness for our challenge?

We could stop allowing content that has previously streamed on the Channel and only accept content actively there. That would be tidier, but I would argue it would also be antithetical to the spirit of the challenge.

davidh777 09-09-20 02:50 PM

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If the goal is to increase participation, I don’t think adding one boutique label is going to move the needle much.

pacaway 09-09-20 04:36 PM

Re: "Official" DVDTalk Challenges Compendium
 

Originally Posted by Travis McClain (Post 13802623)
The problem is that Criterion has effectively already done this via the Channel. Suppose we voted to induct Arrow Video in 2021. Well, a ton of Oscilloscope content is still going to be eligible anyway as it's already been on the Channel. What would we accomplish by withholding formal recognition of Oscilloscope? Also, if these distributors have been deemed worthy of inclusion on the Channel, oughtn't that be good enough to determine worthiness for our challenge?

We could stop allowing content that has previously streamed on the Channel and only accept content actively there. That would be tidier, but I would argue it would also be antithetical to the spirit of the challenge.


Originally Posted by davidh777 (Post 13802680)
If the goal is to increase participation, I don’t think adding one boutique label is going to move the needle much.

Ya, good points. You're right

Travis McClain 09-10-20 08:47 PM

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Here are the distributors whose content I know has appeared on the Criterion Channel and is already eligible for the challenge:

Arrow
Cohen Film Collection
Kino Lorber
Olive Films
Oscilloscope/Milestone
Shout! Factory/Scream Factory
Twilight Time

They've also hosted stuff from Lionsgate, Sony Selects, and the Warner Archive Collection. My feeling is that those might be large enough to go outside the scope of what the challenge is about, but I can be persuaded otherwise.

davidh777 10-16-20 03:07 AM

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November Comedy Challenge list thread has been posted.

orlmac 12-10-20 12:14 PM

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We are coming up on the new year and I am interested in what challenges will be run for January thru April. Can someone let me know what they are?

lisadoris 12-10-20 12:27 PM

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Barring any more changes, the Oscar Challenge will run March 15 - April 25

Travis McClain 12-10-20 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by orlmac (Post 13855621)
We are coming up on the new year and I am interested in what challenges will be run for January thru April. Can someone let me know what they are?

Unless something has changed, the calendar is:

January: TV on DVD* [begins New Year's Eve]
February: Romance, Music & Musicals
March: Action/Adventure/Crime/Mystery
April: Drive-In/B-Movie/Exploitation
May: Make Your Own
June: Historical Appreciation
July: Science-Fiction & Fantasy
August: Animation
September: Criterion [proposed expansion to Boutique Label for 2021]
October: Horror [with an unofficial warmup phase starting in September]
November: Comedy
December: Holiday [begins week of Thanksgiving]

And as Lisa noted, the Oscar challenge is on its own schedule.

davidh777 12-10-20 06:40 PM

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Romance Music Musicals was an experiment for last year, but when the Oscars were moved, it seemed to make sense to run it again in 2021. I’m fine with that plan unless others disagree (but anyone can always skip a challenge that they don’t care for).

orlmac 12-10-20 10:19 PM

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OK, thanks, that is just what I was wondering about.

Travis McClain 12-11-20 02:26 AM

Re: "Official" DVDTalk Challenges Compendium
 

Originally Posted by davidh777 (Post 13855943)
Romance Music Musicals was an experiment for last year, but when the Oscars were moved, it seemed to make sense to run it again in 2021. I’m fine with that plan unless others disagree (but anyone can always skip a challenge that they don’t care for).

I'm entirely in favor of bringing it back! That theme was a great idea that I feel completes the lineup. I can come up with several movies that aren't eligible for any other challenge. Documentaries, war movies, and westerns are all covered by Historical Appreciation. Film noirs and courtroom dramas are implicitly covered by Crime/Mystery.

Sports movies are really all that seem left. I wrote those into Historical Appreciation and so far as I know, they haven't been removed from that. (I reasoned that sports movies tapped into the same machismo as war and westerns, and it was also inspired by the fact that almost every history teacher I had in middle & high schools were employed in that capacity to justify having them there to coach one team or another.) But even if sports are tossed out of HA, the individual films should still have a home somewhere. Just to take Kevin Costner's baseball movies, Bull Durham is a comedy that's also had a Criterion release and Field of Dreams is fantasy. That leaves For Love of the Game which is also...a romance, now covered!

shadokitty 12-13-20 04:37 AM

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I just wanted to let people know that I’m planning to post the discussion and list threads for the TV on DVD challenge this week sometime. Last week I got a new laptop, but it was shipped with a faulty power cord, so I had to order a new one.

Travis McClain 12-13-20 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by shadokitty (Post 13857152)
I just wanted to let people know that I’m planning to post the discussion and list threads for the TV on DVD challenge this week sometime. Last week I got a new laptop, but it was shipped with a faulty power cord, so I had to order a new one.

I was gonna see about returning as host this year, but I think you enjoy doing it more than me. If you want to take the year off, though, lemme know. In any event, I've got two Batman box sets that I'm eager to get into next month ('66 and TAS). I'll try not to make y'all completely sick of Batman. At least there'll be the Discovery season finale on the 7th, for those who don't mind talking through spoiler boxes.

shadokitty 12-13-20 08:04 PM

Re: "Official" DVDTalk Challenges Compendium
 

Originally Posted by Travis McClain (Post 13857323)
I was gonna see about returning as host this year, but I think you enjoy doing it more than me. If you want to take the year off, though, lemme know. In any event, I've got two Batman box sets that I'm eager to get into next month ('66 and TAS). I'll try not to make y'all completely sick of Batman. At least there'll be the Discovery season finale on the 7th, for those who don't mind talking through spoiler boxes.

I have no issues at all with you doing it this year Travis. I’m feeling stressed out this year anyway, what with COVID going on. While I’m glad to participate, I don’t mind stepping down from running it.

Travis McClain 12-14-20 02:43 PM

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List and Discussion threads are up for TV on DVD*.

TheBigDave 01-02-21 01:10 PM

Re: "Official" DVDTalk Challenges Compendium
 

Originally Posted by Travis McClain (Post 13801547)
I've been wondering of late whether maybe it would be worth considering revamping that challenge as a wider Boutique Distributor Challenge.....

I bring this up because as much as I love the Criterion Challenge, participation is easily the lowest of all the challenges. Always has been, and is damn near barely alive by now. Some of that has to do with the community itself disintegrating, but the Horror Challenge is alive and well....

I'd love to see the Criterion Challenge expand into a Criterion/Arthouse/Foreign Challenge. This would open up the theme to so many different options. And for Horror Challenge fans, they could get an early start in September by watching arthouse/foreign horror flicks.

Travis McClain 01-02-21 04:33 PM

Re: "Official" DVDTalk Challenges Compendium
 

Originally Posted by TheBigDave (Post 13866963)
I'd love to see the Criterion Challenge expand into a Criterion/Arthouse/Foreign Challenge. This would open up the theme to so many different options. And for Horror Challenge fans, they could get an early start in September by watching arthouse/foreign horror flicks.

We'll talk more in August but at this point, this is the plan. Criterion purists can still restrict themselves to Criterion and retain the challenge as they've always enjoyed it, so no one is losing anything by expanding.

Travis McClain 01-18-21 02:31 AM

Re: "Official" DVDTalk Challenges Compendium
 

Originally Posted by davidh777 (Post 13855943)
Romance Music Musicals was an experiment for last year, but when the Oscars were moved, it seemed to make sense to run it again in 2021. I’m fine with that plan unless others disagree (but anyone can always skip a challenge that they don’t care for).

Have you decided about hosting RMM again this year, David?

davidh777 01-18-21 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis McClain (Post 13876449)
Have you decided about hosting RMM again this year, David?

Thanks for the nudge! I had set a calendar reminder to create the discussion thread on January 9, then when it went off, decided that it was too early but neglected to change my reminder. Discussion thread is now live!

Darkgod 02-09-21 02:02 PM

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Don't know if someone is running the oscars challenge here this year, but tcm dropped their schedule.. https://assets.tcm.com/projects/31da...1-Schedule.pdf

lisadoris 02-09-21 03:32 PM

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Cool, thanks.

Oscar nominations will be announced on March 15 so I'll start the threads around March 5 unless someone else is itching to host the Oscar Challenge.

caligulathegod 03-15-21 08:59 PM

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Just announcing the return of the Drive-in/Exploitation challenge. It will be overlapping the Oscar Challenge. Feel free to participate in one, the other, or both.


Surfinhank 04-24-21 05:31 PM

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Is the May challenge going to happen this year? Just noticed next weekend is the 1st of the month.

Dimension X 04-24-21 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Surfinhank (Post 13925471)
Is the May challenge going to happen this year? Just noticed next weekend is the 1st of the month.

I was hoping whoever took it over last year would do so again, but if no one else wants to do it, I will. I'll give it a couple of more days. I don't even have a challenge idea yet.

EDIT: It was BobO'Link. Maybe he wants to do it again.


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