Most Shameful Double Dip Ever?
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So I Married An Axe Murderer: Special Edition
Is the winner of this particular award.
"Austin Powers" has more extras on it and that disc was first released *IN 1997*.
Is the winner of this particular award.
"Austin Powers" has more extras on it and that disc was first released *IN 1997*.
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So I Married an Axe Murderer is the correct answer since it has NO bonus features, despite being billed as a Special Edition.
Beetlejuice is runner-up for only having episodes of the lame cartoon included, as is Poltergeist for a doc that has nothing to do with the film itself.
Beetlejuice is runner-up for only having episodes of the lame cartoon included, as is Poltergeist for a doc that has nothing to do with the film itself.
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You can't say THE JERK is the most shameful, as at least it was upgraded to anamorphic widescreen, replacing the earlier full screen mess....
Also, while both BEETLEJUICE and POLTERGEIST may not have received any quality special features, both had new remastered transfers that greatly improved upon their long out of date 1997 releases....
I would vote for something like ANNIE, where they released a special edition but dropped the widescreen OAR version of film and only presented it in pan and scan! There are a bunch of Sony (Columbia/Tristar) DVDs like LAST ACTION HERO and THE CABLE GUY where they used to be dual sided discs with both widescreen and pan and scan transfers, and then Sony quietly began re-releasing them as single sided discs, dropping the superior OAR side...worst part was they didn't even bother to change the UPC codes on the package, so if you ordered them online you might get screwed!
One last extremely shameful double dip goes to THE CUTTING EDGE, where they actually downgraded the video to a non-anamorphic, converted from a sped up PAL transfer!!
Also, while both BEETLEJUICE and POLTERGEIST may not have received any quality special features, both had new remastered transfers that greatly improved upon their long out of date 1997 releases....
I would vote for something like ANNIE, where they released a special edition but dropped the widescreen OAR version of film and only presented it in pan and scan! There are a bunch of Sony (Columbia/Tristar) DVDs like LAST ACTION HERO and THE CABLE GUY where they used to be dual sided discs with both widescreen and pan and scan transfers, and then Sony quietly began re-releasing them as single sided discs, dropping the superior OAR side...worst part was they didn't even bother to change the UPC codes on the package, so if you ordered them online you might get screwed!
One last extremely shameful double dip goes to THE CUTTING EDGE, where they actually downgraded the video to a non-anamorphic, converted from a sped up PAL transfer!!
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I'm cool with Beetlejuice because it has an improved transfer and it came with some of the old cartoons I liked to watch.
Now, an example of double-dipping I hate is a release that cuts out substantial features and replaces them with dreck. The 10th Anniversary of Titanic definitely comes to mind. Paramount could have taken the time to fix the picture error on disc 1 and added some new bonus material (such as the infamous 4th disc the other regions did), and instead, they removed the 3rd disc.
Now, an example of double-dipping I hate is a release that cuts out substantial features and replaces them with dreck. The 10th Anniversary of Titanic definitely comes to mind. Paramount could have taken the time to fix the picture error on disc 1 and added some new bonus material (such as the infamous 4th disc the other regions did), and instead, they removed the 3rd disc.
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What immediately comes to mind is The Bourne Identity: Explosive Extended Edition.
I did not originally purchase the 1st version that had Doug Liman's commentary (rented it initially), so I was kind of excited to see a re-release and a free ticket to see The Bourne Supremacy. But, the commentary was dropped along with the making of featurette. They added a bunch of short EPK featurettes instead.
Anyways, I dumped it and bought the original version used.
I did not originally purchase the 1st version that had Doug Liman's commentary (rented it initially), so I was kind of excited to see a re-release and a free ticket to see The Bourne Supremacy. But, the commentary was dropped along with the making of featurette. They added a bunch of short EPK featurettes instead.
Anyways, I dumped it and bought the original version used.
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One that hasn't been mentioned: The Jerk. First, Universal releases a full-screen disc. Then, they make amends for that snafu with a "26th Anniversary Edition" that includes a fucking ukulele lesson and a 4-minute deleted scene. "Don't call them Universal, call them Shitheads." And yeah, those "I Love the 80's" repackagings are beyond ridiculous.
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The Cutting Edge: Gold Edition
The Gold Edition actually DOWNGRADED from the anamorphic transfer of the original to a non-anamorphic transfer. And to make it even worse this new transfer is the sped-up PAL version which causes the same movie to to run five minutes shorter with chipmunk voices (check the different runtimes on the back of the cases). The only new about the original movie is a short featurette, while the rest of the special "features" are promos for the craptastic sequel.
The Gold Edition actually DOWNGRADED from the anamorphic transfer of the original to a non-anamorphic transfer. And to make it even worse this new transfer is the sped-up PAL version which causes the same movie to to run five minutes shorter with chipmunk voices (check the different runtimes on the back of the cases). The only new about the original movie is a short featurette, while the rest of the special "features" are promos for the craptastic sequel.
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I believe the main reason for double dips like Back to the Future is basically to get more promotion for the movies in Sunday ads and online, along with replacing the older, lower priced release with a newer, higher priced release. The double dips aren't really for people who already own the first DVD release, but for people who don't own them.
So, take a catalogue title, slap new graphics and packaging on it, maybe put in a new sad-ass featurette, give it a new UPC and it becomes a instantly improved profit maker (that is if the retailer goes along with stocking it). They normally will because the higher MSRP will give them an improved profit margin on the item from week 3 out until the inevitable price reduction on the new item.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I am 95% sure that the "Lost Filmstrips" extra is NOT a deleted scene but something terrible crafted by Universal's home video department (the hints being that it's stupid, and Steve Martin isn't in it). I don't think there are any legitimate extras on that DVD other than the trailer/production notes.
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Well, as mentioned, it does contain the remastered film in anamorphic widescreen and 5.1 with a trailer. As far as Steve Martin special editions go, since we're unlikely to get participation from the man himself, it is a pretty good DVD of the movie, compared to the FS one, if still a terrible special edition.
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Maybe we need to decide what we're talking about when we say "most shameful double dip." To me, this would be putting out one version of a DVD and later putting out another version of a DVD with "can't miss" features that weren't on the first release, making those who purchased the first version really, really want the new one, too. I'm not sure all of the releases that have been discussed in this thread meet this criteria.
I remember my two-disc edition of Pulp Fiction came with a rebate if you already owned the bare bones edition. I can't remember if people knew the extended edition of Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring was coming out just a month or so after the regular edition. I know I definitely had the sense that the original, non-special editions of Star Wars were never coming out (although they never did actually say they weren't going to do it). The Evil Dead releases are insane. And I believe the worst offender in my collection is Criterion's second offering of Seven Samurai. Buying that first edition for $30 or so was a big deal for me, as that seems like a lot of money on one movie. Then the other shoe drops and I have $60 spent on one film. A great film, yeah, but the hefty price tags to begin with didn't help me pick up the second edition right away.
I remember my two-disc edition of Pulp Fiction came with a rebate if you already owned the bare bones edition. I can't remember if people knew the extended edition of Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring was coming out just a month or so after the regular edition. I know I definitely had the sense that the original, non-special editions of Star Wars were never coming out (although they never did actually say they weren't going to do it). The Evil Dead releases are insane. And I believe the worst offender in my collection is Criterion's second offering of Seven Samurai. Buying that first edition for $30 or so was a big deal for me, as that seems like a lot of money on one movie. Then the other shoe drops and I have $60 spent on one film. A great film, yeah, but the hefty price tags to begin with didn't help me pick up the second edition right away.
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The Cutting Edge: Gold Edition
The Gold Edition actually DOWNGRADED from the anamorphic transfer of the original to a non-anamorphic transfer. And to make it even worse this new transfer is the sped-up PAL version which causes the same movie to to run five minutes shorter with chipmunk voices (check the different runtimes on the back of the cases). The only new about the original movie is a short featurette, while the rest of the special "features" are promos for the craptastic sequel.
The Gold Edition actually DOWNGRADED from the anamorphic transfer of the original to a non-anamorphic transfer. And to make it even worse this new transfer is the sped-up PAL version which causes the same movie to to run five minutes shorter with chipmunk voices (check the different runtimes on the back of the cases). The only new about the original movie is a short featurette, while the rest of the special "features" are promos for the craptastic sequel.
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Double dipping dvds usually never bothered me, but for some reason, I am greatly annoyed at the arrogance to release Back to the Future again on dvd. The dvds are the exact same releases and extras as the Back to the Future collection set released a few years ago.
Do the studios really think consumers are this igorant? We can enjoy all three films in the original edition release for the same price as just one re-release! There was absolutely no reason to produce these videos again on dvd.
Do the studios really think consumers are this igorant? We can enjoy all three films in the original edition release for the same price as just one re-release! There was absolutely no reason to produce these videos again on dvd.
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I don't understand owning only part of a trilogy, such as BTTF. I can understand owning only certain titles in a given franchise (James Bond comes to mind), but I've always viewed the BTTF trilogy as a whole experience, not to be divided and enjoyed in parts. I realize that they initially had no intention on continuing the story past the first film, but I can't think of one of the films without thinking of it in terms of being 1/3 of a larger story.
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I remember my two-disc edition of Pulp Fiction came with a rebate if you already owned the bare bones edition. I can't remember if people knew the extended edition of Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring was coming out just a month or so after the regular edition. I know I definitely had the sense that the original, non-special editions of Star Wars were never coming out (although they never did actually say they weren't going to do it). The Evil Dead releases are insane. And I believe the worst offender in my collection is Criterion's second offering of Seven Samurai. Buying that first edition for $30 or so was a big deal for me, as that seems like a lot of money on one movie. Then the other shoe drops and I have $60 spent on one film. A great film, yeah, but the hefty price tags to begin with didn't help me pick up the second edition right away.
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I don't understand owning only part of a trilogy, such as BTTF. I can understand owning only certain titles in a given franchise (James Bond comes to mind), but I've always viewed the BTTF trilogy as a whole experience, not to be divided and enjoyed in parts. I realize that they initially had no intention on continuing the story past the first film, but I can't think of one of the films without thinking of it in terms of being 1/3 of a larger story.
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LOTR was definitely publicized as having an EE a few months after the TR but I don't know how many "normal" people (as opposed to folks like us) knew about it. And Seven Samurai depends on when you bought it: the new edition came out in 2006, and it was one of the first DVDs I bought in 1999, which doesn't seem so shameful (or shameless either).
Originally Posted by MrSmearkase
I don't understand owning only part of a trilogy, such as BTTF. I can understand owning only certain titles in a given franchise (James Bond comes to mind), but I've always viewed the BTTF trilogy as a whole experience, not to be divided and enjoyed in parts. I realize that they initially had no intention on continuing the story past the first film, but I can't think of one of the films without thinking of it in terms of being 1/3 of a larger story.
Originally Posted by UAIOE
I could understand 1 and not 2+3, but you can't own 2 without 3.
That said, I would agree that seeing The Two Jakes without first seeing Chinatown, one is not going to get the full impact of the film. The same would go for not seeing The Godfather Part II before first seeing The Godfather Part III or Kill Bill II without first seeing KB I. Che is being released in theatres as both a one viewing experience and as two separate films. Both then are valid as standalone experiences. But it would be puzzling if someone were to purchase the second film only just like it would be puzzling if someone were to watch the second film in theatres before seeing the first half.