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Old 06-23-08 | 07:24 AM
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Normally I think this kind of thing is pretty ridiculous, I watch movies on the merit of the movie, regardless of who's involved. I love the Hitcher for example and there's some GW Bush money in that movie, BUT the one place I draw the line is Victor Salva (the "Powder" guy) because not only is he a pedophile but all his movies drip with it.

So it's not so much a boycott of the DVDs, but a boycott of every giving that guy a single penny of my money. He should still be in jail
Old 06-23-08 | 09:38 AM
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is walt disney really an anti-semite? people always say he is or that he is racist, but is it true?
Well that would be hard to know since he is dead
Old 06-23-08 | 09:53 AM
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I boycott movies that I think suck, for example anything with Bruce Willis in it (with the exception of 12 Monkeys of course).

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It's intersting to see people "boycott" DVD purchases based solely on an actor. What is the qualifier? What if they have a cameo and are not an integral part of the movie? There are actors I can't stand either (Joan Cusack and Caroline Rhea come to mind), but that doesn't mean I am going to blindly ignore ALL movies/shows that they are in. I'm sure I own multiple titles with the actresses I mentioned.

Just curious if you guys are actually making your decision on the movie AND the actors or just the actors.

Well, see my above example. I don't like the movies he is in.
Same with Julia Roberts.....not in movies I would ever want to see.
Old 06-23-08 | 09:54 AM
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anything with larry the cable guy...it's a shame i'll never complete my pixar collection.
Yep same here for me. I will never support anything LTCG was involved with.
Old 06-23-08 | 10:59 AM
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elia kazan - ratted out communists
frank capra - ratted out communists
john wayne - racist, ratted out communists
walt disney - anti-semite, ratted out communists, anti-union
sterling hayden - ratted out communists
ginger rogers - ratted out communists
charlton heston - pro-gun ownership
tom selleck - pro-gun ownership
gary cooper - womanizer, ratted out communists
charlie chaplin - pedophile
woody allen - pedophile
roman polanski - pedophile
fatty arbuckle - rapist and murderer
mel gibson - anti-semite
w.c. fields - anti-semite
al jolson - racist
john landis -killed three people while making twilight zone the movie
michael curtiz - killed three extras on a film by drowning, killed 300 horses on another
orson welles - black dahlia killer
What year is it again?
Old 06-23-08 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by PatrickMcCart
walt disney - anti-semite, ratted out communists, anti-union
Not for nothing, but Disney was the 1955 B'Nai Brith Man of the Year. His alleged anti-semitism was well researched and it was found that he was no more anti-semitic than any other man of his era. As far as anti-communist and anti-union, absolutely correct sir.

gary cooper - womanizer, ratted out communists
Is Womanizer something to boycott over?

orson welles - black dahlia killer
And I fell for it, hook line and sinker.
Old 06-23-08 | 12:07 PM
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Normally I think this kind of thing is pretty ridiculous, I watch movies on the merit of the movie, regardless of who's involved. I love the Hitcher for example and there's some GW Bush money in that movie, BUT the one place I draw the line is Victor Salva (the "Powder" guy) because not only is he a pedophile but all his movies drip with it.

So it's not so much a boycott of the DVDs, but a boycott of every giving that guy a single penny of my money. He should still be in jail
Victor Salva is the first (and, really, only) name that came to mind for me.

And for the same reasons you list... how Disney missed the 'subtext' going on in Powder is beyond me. I don't think he could have crammed another wet, shirtless boy into that movie.
Old 06-23-08 | 12:15 PM
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I had no idea about Victor Salva until this thread. Powder was always a movie I kind of wanted to see. I think I will most certainly pass on Powder and any of his movies now.
Old 06-23-08 | 12:59 PM
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His crimes were also DIRECTLY releated to his films and his position as a director.

He took advantage of children on his set in his care essentially, filmed himself abusing them, and basically got off with a slap on the wrists, and came out of jail and went right back into filmmaking again.

Jeepers Creepers have some sleazy creepy subtext as well.

The guy is a certified sleaze and giving him a single cent will never happen from me.

Which is all much different than boycotting a movie because you don't like a particular actor or director's political views. Being a kid toucher isn't really a political view.

Like I said before, seperate the artist from the art, but in the case of Victor Salva, that is not an option.
Old 06-23-08 | 01:16 PM
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I thought my reason for boycotting Orson Welles would have given away my intentions for that post.

Seriously, I think boycotting filmmakers is generally idiotic. You're not proving anything by snubbing Kazan's films. It's an empty and useless point to make. I think Woody Allen is creepy, but that doesn't change my enjoyment of Bananas or Annie Hall. I think Landis' conduct on TZ: The Movie was unforgivable, but half of his films are among my all-time favorites.

The truth is, if you shielded yourself from every artist or filmmaker that has done something objectionable (whether it's pedophilia or naming names), you'd be limited to watching Meet the Spartans and Disaster Movie.
Old 06-23-08 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by PatrickMcCart
I thought my reason for boycotting Orson Welles would have given away my intentions for that post.

Seriously, I think boycotting filmmakers is generally idiotic. You're not proving anything by snubbing Kazan's films. It's an empty and useless point to make. I think Woody Allen is creepy, but that doesn't change my enjoyment of Bananas or Annie Hall. I think Landis' conduct on TZ: The Movie was unforgivable, but half of his films are among my all-time favorites.

The truth is, if you shielded yourself from every artist or filmmaker that has done something objectionable (whether it's pedophilia or naming names), you'd be limited to watching Meet the Spartans and Disaster Movie.
Senator Obama?

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Old 06-23-08 | 01:29 PM
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Patrick, you forgot that dude who directed Powder.
[Walter Sobchak]Eight year olds, dude.[/Walter Sobchak]
Old 06-23-08 | 01:44 PM
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If the movie is good, I don't give a crap about what goes on behind the scenes, I'm buying it.
Old 06-23-08 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by porieux
I boycott movies that I think suck, for example anything with Bruce Willis in it (with the exception of 12 Monkeys of course).
geronimo, motherf*cker
Old 06-23-08 | 02:07 PM
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I was reading through the posts and thinking about people's answers. I have no problem with other's opinions, and we have to realize that's all they are- opinions and personal preferences. I am a very socially liberal person, so I may choose to watch films and TV that go along with that type of view. However, like I said, I do understand that other actors and film makers have their own views also. I'm anti-gun in the real world, but I do like Magnum, P.I. and the Stone Cold series of movies that Tom Selleck has done. I've actually met him before. I could go on and on, but I'd say the only thing I boycott as far as DVD/ movies go is anything that exploits animals for entertainment, such as anything with horse racing, horse riding, dog racing, rodeo's, etc. I just don't think that is necessary, and it isn't entertaining to me, so I avoid it. So, I basically don't watch Westerns, Seabiscuit, etc.

BTW, I'm no Woody Allen fan either!
Old 06-23-08 | 02:07 PM
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Lately, I have been avoiding TV sets from Paramount and Universal (and to some degree Fox) for not including the original music on the sets. Sorry that is unforgivable in my book.
Old 06-23-08 | 02:15 PM
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Lately, I have been avoiding TV sets from Paramount and Universal (and to some degree Fox) for not including the original music on the sets. Sorry that is unforgivable in my book.
Oh yeah, I've done that, too with Crime Story and Hunter.
Old 06-23-08 | 02:40 PM
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Oh yeah, I've done that, too with Crime Story and Hunter.
Hmm....didn't know that about Crime Story...good thing I downloaded those.
Old 06-23-08 | 02:58 PM
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I won't stay in a Hilton hotel.
Old 06-23-08 | 03:05 PM
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I won't stay in a Hilton hotel.
Old 06-23-08 | 03:14 PM
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ratted out commies
Old 06-23-08 | 03:24 PM
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I thought my reason for boycotting Orson Welles would have given away my intentions for that post.
I was hoping your post was a joke, but with some people you never know. You fooled me. Well played!

Personally, I don't give a shit what a person does in real life. If they make something that looks interesting, I'll go. I didn't know about Victor Salva, but that doesn't change the fact that I love Jeepers Creepers.

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Old 06-23-08 | 03:26 PM
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I refuse to own any DVDs in which no animals were harmed in the production of the film.
Old 06-23-08 | 03:50 PM
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My mistake, I thought this was a serious discussion.
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I've come to learn it's pretty hard to avoid having an issue with many of the artists mentioned in this thread - some of my favorite films were made by some of these people. But people are complicated, and many of the people listed above lived in fairly unenlightened times. Sienfeld was my absolute favorite show until Michael Richards' infamous rant (Jerry, you can thank MR for at least one lost sale of your box set), and now I can't even watch a rerun on tv. It's tough to separate the artist from the art, but unless it's someone who is inarguably evil, you have to make your peace with it.


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