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Old 01-11-08 | 02:56 AM
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Almost Famous took a great film and made it even better. Troy and Kingdom of Heaven took two moderately entertaining but flawed films and made them top drawer, IMHO.

this treatment would certainly be deserved on Gangs of New York which originally was a four hour cut IIRC.
Old 01-11-08 | 05:28 AM
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The Lord Of The Rings Trilogy by far. I also thought that the directors cut of Daredevil wasn't bad either, I hated the theatrical version. The directors cut was pretty different and much better.
Old 01-11-08 | 05:37 AM
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Blade Runner: The Final Cut is my favorite, as the continuity problems finally got fixed, allowing me to fully enjoy the film.

Terminator 2 and Lord of the Rings are my least favorites, as IMHO T2's SE added very little to the release cut and ruined the film's momentum completely where as the Rings EE's gave me little desire to read the books where as the theatrical cuts did.
Old 01-11-08 | 05:50 AM
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Almost Famous Bootleg Cut definitely made me appreciate the movie more. Kingdom Of Heaven DC was highly entertaining what otherwise was a boring theatrical version.
Old 01-11-08 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by majorjoe23
Daredevil was an infinitely better movie in the directors cut. I'm not sure that's saying much though.
I have to agree with you...from a 2 to a 10...
Old 01-11-08 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by shyguy1083
FF extended edition wasn't that great for me. it actually bothered me that they just reinsert scenes in instead of actually recutting/re-editing. there's the one scene where reed has his "i thought you wanted a different kind of man" speech (or something like that) with sue, and the extended cut adds in ANOTHER version of the scene only a couple of minutes later which uses a few of the same lines of dialogue. so it just made it redundant. since i don't have the first single-disc release, i don't know if the deleted scenes on that disc are the same scenes put into the extended cut.
I couldn't agree more. When i watched the director's cut, i was like "what the...". They should have used one or the other - not both scenes. It took me out of the movie since the two scenes were virtually the same, and yes, very redundant.
Old 01-11-08 | 01:02 PM
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I have to agree with you...from a 2 to a 10...
On a scale of what? I've only seen the theatrical cut of Daredevil, but I would find it impossible that the DC could bring it up to a 10/10???
Old 01-11-08 | 01:24 PM
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On a scale of what? I've only seen the theatrical cut of Daredevil, but I would find it impossible that the DC could bring it up to a 10/10???
I was very disappointed in the theatrical version but the DC made it one of my favorite superhero movies. A very marked improvement. It just made it flow coherently and made the film feel much fuller and satisfying.
Old 01-11-08 | 03:10 PM
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'Jason Goes to Hell' - the only F13 film to exist in unrated form, released on region 1 US disc - the chance to get to see one the series gnarliest deaths in uncensored form - the bisection of the naked chick in the tent is a rare treat for gorehounds.
That's also one of the best death scenes of the entire series... too bad it's featured in one of the worst films.
Old 01-11-08 | 06:44 PM
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'Copland' was a significantly improved director's cut...

the added scenes really changed the film...

particularly, can't believe i'm posting this, it allowed Stallone to add some depth to his character... he was really good in that film...

both of the guys who mentioned it in this thread had it right...
Old 01-11-08 | 08:39 PM
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While The Lord of the Rings has been mantioned, I'd like to single out The Two Towers. I felt it was the weakest of the three theatrical movies and benefitted the most from the Extended Edition.

My other favorites are Leon, Almost Famous, Kingdom of Heaven, Aliens.
Old 01-11-08 | 09:15 PM
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I'll throw in Zodiac as a recent film given the Director's Cut treatment. I really enjoyed the "sound" montage used during the "Four Years Later" title.
Old 01-12-08 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Carcosa
STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE...a pretty lousy film made into a not bad one.
Star Trek: The Motion Picture (aka "Star Trek 1") in its "Director's Edition" cut is a perfect example of simply how better editing can improve a movie. (Although the redone Special Effects based on the original storyboards were nice, it was the better editing that actually made the most difference.)
Old 01-13-08 | 01:44 AM
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A couple that haven't been mentioned yet are The Big Blue and Once Upon a Time in America. Both of those were butchered for the original theatrical release and if you have a DVD, it's almost certainly the original, longer version. The longer version of the original Wicker Man is also better, but there's a lot of DVD's of the short version out there.

It's very frustrating, but the original roadsow versions of It's a Mad Mad World and John Wayne's The Alamo are available on widescreen VHS but not on DVD (although both are almost certainly OOP by this time). The DVD of Mad Mad World has many of the deleted scenes as an extra, but not in their original locations in the movie, so it's tough to see how they fit in exactly. The DVD of the Alamo doesn't have any of the deleted scenes period.

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Old 01-13-08 | 02:11 AM
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I guess I'll throw in Kingdom of Heaven too. I saw it in the theater and though it was okay, but generally mediocre, and in many places hard to follow. I got the director's cut and I would easily put it down as one of my favourite movies so far this decade. I was completely wowed by it. It is a drastic improvement.

The Lord of the Rings EEs are all very good, and many of you have mentioned Two Towers (which I whole heartedly agree with), but my favourite of the trilogy really was Fellowship and the EE for that movie was also quite brilliant in its own rite.

Really, other than Blade Runner, those are the only EEs or Directors cuts that are different enough to really jump out at me.
Old 01-14-08 | 09:36 AM
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That's also one of the best death scenes of the entire series... too bad it's featured in one of the worst films.
sad but true ... now if only they could find the missing grue from Part II

Originally Posted by Silverscreenvid
A couple that haven't been mentioned yet are The Big Blue and Once Upon a Time in America. Both of those were butchered for the original theatrical release and if you have a DVD, it's almost certainly the original, longer version. The longer version of the original Wicker Man is also better, but there's a lot of DVD's of the short version out there.

It's very frustrating, but the original roadsow versions of It's a Mad Mad World and John Wayne's The Alamo are available on widescreen VHS but not on DVD (although both are almost certainly OOP by this time). The DVD of Mad Mad World has many of the deleted scenes as an extra, but not in their original locations in the movie, so it's tough to see how they fit in exactly. The DVD of the Alamo doesn't have any of the deleted scenes period.
oh I never knew that, let's hope the eventual Bluray will be the longer cut - I love that movie.

interesting little bit of film history, even though the US theatrical cut of Bertolucci's 1900 is only available on VHS (censored - by the MPAA and cut for theatrical exhibition), in trunscated form compared to the 311min version, the pacing and editing was radically altered to the point where Bertolucci prefers the changes to the film than to the longer cut of the film.

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Old 01-14-08 | 10:06 AM
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The Lord Of The Rings is my most obvious pick. I also agree with the people that stated Daredevil is better when altered a bit. I would never watch the first version after getting the DC version. While I enjoyed the DC of Fantastic Four I still would like to get the theatrical edition down the road. I thought the theatrical version, while somewhat short, was still one of the better superhero films I had seen in a long time.
Old 01-14-08 | 10:28 AM
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Leatherface: Texas Chainsaw Massacre III - comparing the R-rated cut to the unrated cut is a day to night comparison - the restored violence is integral not only to pacing but one of the killing's (the sledge hammer to the head) is taken so out of context by MPAA interference it undermines how truly vicious all the family members are.

Kill Bill Vol. 1 - 'House of Blue Leaves' scene in COLOR - nuff said (oh and the arm lopping off, and the stomach slitting ).
Old 01-15-08 | 07:14 AM
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Daredevil
Aliens
Alien 3
Superman 2 Donner Cut
Fantastic Four
Close Encounters
T-2
does the original Japanease cut of Godzilla count?
Old 01-15-08 | 07:32 AM
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Been mentioned before but heres another vote for LOTR
Old 01-15-08 | 08:30 AM
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I have to say while the extended cut of Return of the King is generally good, notably the reinstation of the Mouth of Sauron of sequence, the movie still suffers from too many endings.

and as for Superman II (the Donnor cut) - the only scene that was a general 'what the f@%&?' was the toothpaste scene, if you've seen it, you know what I'm talking about.

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Old 01-15-08 | 08:39 AM
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I have to say while the extended cut of Return of the King is generally good, notably the reinstation of the Mouth of Sauron of sequence, the movie still suffers from too many endings.
That was a killer in the theater when I was thinking I could hold it in...I finally had to bolt, but there was still plenty of wrap up time left even after that.


I agree with a lot of these choices. KOH is probably my favorite of them, followed by Almost Famous.
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Originally Posted by zepplin
I was thinking about this, when I was watching Fantastic four(Extended edition).
Lot of movies has re-lease with extra scene. Like Fantastic four EE is over 20 minutes longer and much better version. I think the best I have seen is Superman 2 Donner version and Alien3 Director cut. What about you DVD talker?

Lord of the Rings, the Two Towers.
Old 01-15-08 | 09:17 AM
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Old 01-15-08 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by superdeluxe
Lord of the Rings, the Two Towers.
I thought the best inclusion was the memorable scene in the book was when the orcs were devoured by the trees - which I had no idea Jackson HAD filmed - I think I really enjoyed the fact (and the film for that matter) that New Line did release the extended cut on the big screen and not exclusively on home video.


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