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shacmasta 06-30-07 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by achau9598
yes, but TS3 will be Pixar's child, so it (hopefully) will retain the story quality that Pixar has always put as priority.

Yea, I know. Just threw out that piece of info because I for one didn't even know toy story 3 was being planned.

atari2600 06-30-07 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by bboisvert
This is really great news, if true. It's going to be hard for Disney to walk away from all of that money, though...

why is this good news?

let them make crappy movies - who cares?

if you dont like it, dont buy it!

was disney created crappy movies, forcing people to buy and watch them? then i can see it being good news.

but to me, this doesnt change a thing as i never bought these bad sequels anyways.

Dane Marvin 06-30-07 11:29 PM


But also from a business standpoint you have to understand how the public views you. If you heap crap on children of today, they will grow up hating Disney in the future.
Just wanted to say that this is a brilliant point. Think it over, atari2600.

atari2600 07-01-07 12:56 PM

then dont let your kids watch them. besides im pretty sure kids who watch them probably like them anyways. i doubt these will make them hate disney.

UAIOE 07-02-07 05:02 PM

Nostalgia can be cruel. I can't list all the things I thought were awesome when I was young only to revisit them later and see they were actually total garbage.

I think it would be far more beneficial (in the long run) to support a new generation of Disney fans on a foundation of quality films (like in the past) than on some cheaply made movies that would probably cater only to small children. There is a reason why the older movies are still popular, they appeal to both adults and kids...same with the Looney Toons shorts.

Mabuse 09-16-08 06:49 PM

How come Disney still makes these after they announced they would stop?

dx23 09-16-08 08:03 PM

some of them were almost done (Tinkerbell for example) when the new CEO said they will be stopping, but also add the fact that this shitty sequels make tons of money for Disney, which is their bottom line as any other business. As long as this happens, they will keep churning them out.

mzupeman2 09-16-08 08:11 PM

It also apparantly doesn't mean that Disney won't stop donig re-releases of the ones they've already made. Today they released 101 Dalmatians 2 again on DVD, alongside the two live action films for the franchise.

bsmith 09-16-08 10:51 PM

I'll will admit some of the sequels aren't very good but some are and I have enjoyed watching them with my daughter. It's actually a nice change of pace to sometimes not have the mother killed off in the first few minutes.

Personally, we have enjoyed:
- Lion King II
- Brother Bear 2
- Bambi II
- Fox and the Hound 2
- Cinderella 3
- 101 Dalmations 2

pridesticks06 09-17-08 12:04 AM

I hope this is right, despite me looking forward to Shrek 7: Donkey in Candyland. It looked really good too.

Seriously though, I hope they cut the crap. It probably does make them money though, so I doubt it.

Panda Phil 09-17-08 12:58 AM

I really hope The Little Mermaid 3 that just came out is just something thats been gathering dust in a warehouse for the last few years, and not a return to their old habits.


I went from being a huge Disney nerd in the 90's to not really giving a rats ass about any of their stuff. A lot of it had to do with these things.

Sequels per se aren't bad, its that they've done such a half-ass job on them. I made it as far as Pocohontas 2 before giving up. I can remember just about every song from TLM on with a bit of prompting, but theres not a single tune from any of the sequel releases that even registers.

If they lavished the same attention on the stories and music as they did their top tier films, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

bsmith 09-17-08 05:57 AM

All this complaining about the quality of the sequels. Is it because as adults you are buying for yourselves and the sequels do not fit the high standard that an adult would enjoy or is it because you think children do not enjoy them.

As an adult the Pixar's are pretty good to have and about a hand full of the old style animations are enjoyable to me in remembrance of my childhood. But first and foremost I don't see these productions as designed for me but instead the kids, and for the most part kids enjoy these. So I don't see any reason for them to stop on account that adults do not like them all, as long as kids do. That's their primary audience.

Michael Corvin 09-17-08 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by Panda Phil (Post 8944167)
I really hope The Little Mermaid 3 that just came out is just something thats been gathering dust in a warehouse for the last few years, and not a return to their old habits.

I believe that is essentially what's going on.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 09-17-08 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by pridesticks06 (Post 8944106)
I hope this is right, despite me looking forward to Shrek 7: Donkey in Candyland. It looked really good too.

Seriously though, I hope they cut the crap. It probably does make them money though, so I doubt it.

I doubt they would use Candyland in the title of the sequel.

Universal has a license to make movies based off Battleship, Monopoly, Candyland, and Ouija.

This is the world we live in and I don't thing the studio would be nice enough to use a great director on any of these to actually make them worthwhile.

bigjim25 09-17-08 09:47 AM

Personally I could care less if they make them or not. If you don't want to see a sequel, don't.
Some people like them. They make for good movies to keep the kids out of your hair. ;)

Cactus Jack 09-17-08 10:27 AM

Thank God.

Mabuse 09-17-08 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by bsmith (Post 8944290)
As an adult the Pixar's are pretty good to have and about a hand full of the old style animations are enjoyable to me in remembrance of my childhood. But first and foremost I don't see these productions as designed for me but instead the kids, and for the most part kids enjoy these. So I don't see any reason for them to stop on account that adults do not like them all, as long as kids do. That's their primary audience.

Disney used to make FAMILY entertainment, meaning their films could be enjoyed by all ages. Snow White, Pinochio, Lady and the Tramp, Jungle Book, and live action stuff like 20,000 Leagues and Mary Poppins are still enjoyed by children and grown ups. For Disney to aim so low with these sequals is dissapointing. And the poor quality tarnishes the reputation of the original film.

islandclaws 09-17-08 10:33 AM

Good for them. I never watched any of the DTV sequels but they all seemed like pale retreads of their originals. Nice to know someone over there cares about quality over cash.

bsmith 09-17-08 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by Mabuse (Post 8944737)
Disney used to make FAMILY entertainment, meaning their films could be enjoyed by all ages. Snow White, Pinochio, Lady and the Tramp, Jungle Book, and live action stuff like 20,000 Leagues and Mary Poppins are still enjoyed by children and grown ups. For Disney to aim so low with these sequals is dissapointing. And the poor quality tarnishes the reputation of the original film.

All I can say is that of the one's I've mentioned:
- Lion King II
- Brother Bear 2
- Bambi II
- Fox and the Hound 2
- Cinderella 3
- 101 Dalmations 2

These are all of a quality (content, video, and audio) near to the originals, in some cases maybe even better. I've watched them many times with my daughter and know them all quite well. While Disney may miss the mark with some (Cinderella 2, Little Mermaid 2) for the most part I don't think they are aiming low.

Also, some of the old classics don't always live up to their reputation years later. Try explaining to a five year old daughter why the woodsman is going after Snow White with a knife and why the Queen wants to keep Snow White's heart in a box.

One thing about the better sequels is that they aren't as harsh.
- Bambi, mother dies
- Lion King, father dies
- brother bear, brother and mother dies
- Fox and the Hound, mother dies
- Finding nemo, mother dies

bsmith 09-17-08 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by KillerCannibal (Post 8944750)
Good for them. I never watched any of the DTV sequels but they all seemed like pale retreads of their originals. Nice to know someone over there cares about quality over cash.

Kind of hard to make a qualifed judgment on something you've never seen, don't you think.

Hokeyboy 09-17-08 02:10 PM

I dare anyone here to watch 20 minutes of HUNCHBACK OF NOTRE DAME II and not be engulfed in entire currents of hurl churning about their midsection or at least the upper groin, replete with colors that they don't even have names for, the only salvation being a faith in a higher power and a petrified poop canoe.

bsmith 09-17-08 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by Matt Millheiser (Post 8945421)
I dare anyone here to watch 20 minutes of HUNCHBACK OF NOTRE DAME II and not be engulfed in entire currents of hurl churning about their midsection or at least the upper groin, replete with colors that they don't even have names for, the only salvation being a faith in a higher power and a petrified poop canoe.

I saw the original HUNCHBACK OF NOTRE DAME once, don't own it and never planned to buy it. I can see now it would be prudent to also stay away from the second.

Jay G. 09-18-08 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by bsmith (Post 8945010)
Also, some of the old classics don't always live up to their reputation years later. Try explaining to a five year old daughter why the woodsman is going after Snow White with a knife and why the Queen wants to keep Snow White's heart in a box.

The woodsman's going after her with a knife to kill her, and the Queen wants her heart for proof she's dead. What's hard to explain about that?


One thing about the better sequels is that they aren't as harsh.
- Finding nemo, mother dies
There's a sequel to Finding Nemo?

bsmith 09-18-08 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 8946883)
The woodsman's going after her with a knife to kill her, and the Queen wants her heart for proof she's dead. What's hard to explain about that?

In my mind that's a bit much for a 5 year old, but that might just be me. My reference was regarding how sometimes we may forget how harsh some of the originals were when we are thinking of them as classics to show to our children now.


Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 8946883)
There's a sequel to Finding Nemo?

Those were all references to originals not sequels.

As as an adult, I have found there are a few worth owning for my own enjoyment. As for the sequels, I probably wouldn't have watched or bought any for myself, but having watched many with my daughter I see how much she enjoys many of them and have found myself enjoying them too.

That's why I think it is so strange why people feel they are a waste and should be stopped. Some are quite good and I would be happy to see them continue to be produced.

Ravid 09-18-08 10:37 AM

Pixar had to fight to get Toy Story 2 released theatrically instead of direct to video. Can you believe that?!


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