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gerrythedon 05-14-07 12:33 AM

GRINDHOUSE: September
 
According to DAVISDVD.com

Bluelitespecial 05-14-07 01:15 AM

Thats great, but the real question is in what form are we going to see it on dvd. The movies released seperately, bare bones releases, 2 disc SE, who knows. I will probably buy every damn one of them.

Mondo Kane 05-14-07 01:33 AM

I'm predicting seperate bare-bones for all y'all first.

tylergfoster 05-14-07 02:20 AM

The current rumor is still that the DVDs will not ever be packaged together due to Rodriguez and Tarantino's insistence that they are individual movies.

chase3001 05-14-07 02:29 AM

For me, the only thing that matters is that they are on HD.

critterdvd 05-14-07 02:31 AM

The Studio's best bet would probably be individual releases for $19.95, and a 2-pack "Grindhouse Experience" for $29.95 (MSRP of course)...

Boba Fett 05-14-07 02:33 AM

I have a feeling they'll come separately since they'll most likely get twice the money from fans who have to pay $30 release week for both, instead of $15-$17 for the film as a whole.

MetalGator311 05-14-07 03:40 AM

September? Seems kind of late considering the studio is desperately looking to make up for the fact it was a box office bomb. I would have expected a June/July release looking to squeeze some cash out of the diehard Tarantino (and Rodriguez) fans.

Shannon Nutt 05-14-07 06:27 AM

Harvey Weinstein stated (in a letter response to Entertainment Weekly in this week's issue) that the movies will get seperate releases on DVD. Furthermore, he says that seperate releases were ALWAYS planned (although I seriously doubt that is the case).

nateman 05-14-07 06:37 AM

More Grindhouse threads!!!!

FrancisRizzo3 05-14-07 07:27 AM

Separate DVD releases make sense, as the whole point of Grindhouse was the experience of watching two films, with trailers, in the theater.

I can watch as many films in a row at home as I want. It was the location that mattered for Grindhouse.

Mr. Cinema 05-14-07 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by MetalGator311
September? Seems kind of late considering the studio is desperately looking to make up for the fact it was a box office bomb. I would have expected a June/July release looking to squeeze some cash out of the diehard Tarantino (and Rodriguez) fans.

They may sell better closer towards Halloween instead of the middle of Summer where most people are going to the theaters to watch the blockbuster films.

rexinnih 05-14-07 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by chase3001
For me, the only thing that matters is that they are on HD.

My thoughts exactly!

Zodiac_Speaking 05-14-07 09:22 AM

No the real question is which one or how they'll do the faux trailers for these releases...

Shannon Nutt 05-14-07 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by FrancisRizzo3
Separate DVD releases make sense, as the whole point of Grindhouse was the experience of watching two films, with trailers, in the theater.

I can watch as many films in a row at home as I want. It was the location that mattered for Grindhouse.

I don't necessarily agree with this...I think the movies work better together than they do apart. Of course, release them seperately now, release them together next year...milk as much money out of them as you can (which, so far, hasn't been much!).

slop101 05-14-07 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by chase3001
For me, the only thing that matters is that they are on HD.

Yeah, the scratchy film stock should look great in HD...
Actually, if there's one film that would benefit the least from HD, it'd be these, since they're supposed to look filthy and dirty.

Giles 05-14-07 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by chase3001
For me, the only thing that matters is that they are on HD.

pish posh... I want it on good 'ol VHS... :D

Adam Tyner 05-14-07 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by slop101
Yeah, the scratchy film stock should look great in HD.

"Restored" versions (read: minus the battering they added in afterwards) are supposed to be on there along with the theatrical editions.

Just because it's grainy and speckled doesn't mean Grindhouse won't benefit from a boost in resolution.

majorjoe23 05-14-07 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by Zodiac_Speaking
No the real question is which one or how they'll do the faux trailers for these releases...

The rumor I heard is that Planet Terror will get Machete and Death Proof will get the others.

islandclaws 05-14-07 01:12 PM

I'd really prefer to have the entire thing released as one film. That way I always have the option of watching one, both, or whatever the hell I feel like. Breaking it up is an (obviously) thinly-veiled attempt at recouping some of that lost cash.

Giles 05-14-07 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by KillerCannabis
I'd really prefer to have the entire thing released as one film. That way I always have the option of watching one, both, or whatever the hell I feel like. Breaking it up is an (obviously) thinly-veiled attempt at recouping some of that lost cash.

to really piss folk off, they should do that and not encode chapters .... :D

tylergfoster 05-14-07 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by KillerCannabis
I'd really prefer to have the entire thing released as one film. That way I always have the option of watching one, both, or whatever the hell I feel like. Breaking it up is an (obviously) thinly-veiled attempt at recouping some of that lost cash.

Eh. I still believe that Tarantino and Rodriguez, even if it does mean more money, really are doing it simply because the point is if you didn't see it in the theater, you missed the experience. The whole point of the project was to get people to have an experience in the theater you can't have anywhere else, so I feel pretty assured that they always were gonna chop it up. I think the money thing is simply the reason the Weinsteins never argued.

And yeah, if you've seen the movie, the little "PREVUES" screen comes up twice, so it seems clear that Machete is the preview attached to PT and the other three are attached to DP and will be as such on the DVD.

The Monkees 05-14-07 02:27 PM

If they do release them separately that would be great cause then I wouldn't have to buy that horrible Death Proof!!

Linko 05-14-07 06:04 PM

I'd only buy Grindhouse. Planet Terror and Death Proof really aren't great individual movies. The experience of watching both movies is what made if fun. The only way I'd buy them individually is if they're also released in a box set with a Grindhouse cover like Indiana Jones, Die Hard, Star Wars, etc. Planet Terror and Death Proof aren't even movies as far as I'm concerned. You didn't see the segments from movies like Creepshow or Four Rooms get split up and passed off as different movies, although they're quite a bit shorter. I only ever saw them as one movie.

man*machine 05-14-07 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by Linko
I'd only buy Grindhouse. Planet Terror and Death Proof really aren't great individual movies. The experience of watching both movies is what made if fun.

I agree. I would only buy GRINDHOUSE. I have no interest in the individual films, especially if they are cleaned up and the missing reels restored. The missing reel moment in POT was one of the best laughs ever. GRINDHOUSE is a total experience that is more than a sum of its parts. Take away that structure and you are left with two mediocre movies.

If Weinstein was smart, they'd release the two separate restored versions of the two films, and also put out GRINDHOUSE as a separate release at the same time. The GRINDHOUSE release could have a premium price (as you are getting the full shebang), and the two separate films would be available for a bit less. Super-fans of the project would end up having to buy all three releases. Sounds like a way to recoup some of the lost money on this thing. Guess we'll wait and see what happens.

Boba Fett 05-14-07 06:40 PM

I wonder if they're waiting until Sept. so Rodriguez can finish the straight to DVD edition of 'Machete'

Last I heard he only needed 30-40 minutes of footage to have a complete film.

tylergfoster 05-14-07 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by Boba Fett
I wonder if they're waiting until Sept. so Rodriguez can finish the straight to DVD edition of 'Machete'

Last I heard he only needed 30-40 minutes of footage to have a complete film.

Trejo claims that it is now going to theaters based on fan response to the trailer. Rodriguez shoots cheap, so maybe it will work. And I believe he has 30-40m SHOT, not vice versa.

tylergfoster 05-14-07 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by Linko
I'd only buy Grindhouse. Planet Terror and Death Proof really aren't great individual movies. The experience of watching both movies is what made if fun. The only way I'd buy them individually is if they're also released in a box set with a Grindhouse cover like Indiana Jones, Die Hard, Star Wars, etc. Planet Terror and Death Proof aren't even movies as far as I'm concerned. You didn't see the segments from movies like Creepshow or Four Rooms get split up and passed off as different movies, although they're quite a bit shorter. I only ever saw them as one movie.

Man, I disagree with this so much. I do value the theatrical experience, but it's not recreated if you can sit and pause and fastforward and whatever. I am especially looking forward to the director's cuts of both films. I didn't like Tarantino's the first time, and it is still overlong, but I did enjoy it greatly and even if I prefer the theatrical cut I would like to see the things that are missing.

Drexl 05-14-07 09:39 PM

I still see it as one movie. The credits for both parts are at the end.

It's just not going to be the same having to get up, replace the disc, and sit through the usual disclaimers (FBI warning, anti-piracy ad, etc.) before Death Proof.

alfonsosoriano 05-14-07 09:42 PM

I want some super special editions!

Cosmic Bus 05-14-07 10:49 PM

Death Proof is the one I'm after, so indivdual releases are fine with me.

moviefan2 05-14-07 10:50 PM

Grindhouse consisted of the two movies and should be together. It is going to be terrible having them separated. I would love to relive that experience I had in the theater. This shows that it is about what Weinstein wants and not what the fans want.

Lecithin 05-14-07 11:27 PM

I think they should be one movie release also. However, like those lengthy Lord of the Rings extended editions, the movie would still probably have to be broken up into two discs anyway, even if you bought one, 2-disc set. So that would alter the uninterrupted flow by taking one disc out and putting another in as well.

bboisvert 05-14-07 11:44 PM


Originally Posted by Lecithin
I think they should be one movie release also. However, like those lengthy Lord of the Rings extended editions, the movie would still probably have to be broken up into two discs anyway, even if you bought one, 2-disc set. So that would alter the uninterrupted flow by taking one disc out and putting another in as well.

At 3hr 11min, the feature should fit on a single disc just fine.

tylergfoster 05-15-07 01:14 AM


Originally Posted by moviefan2
Grindhouse consisted of the two movies and should be together. It is going to be terrible having them separated. I would love to relive that experience I had in the theater. This shows that it is about what Weinstein wants and not what the fans want.

Again, this is what Quentin and Robert want, it is their insistence that the films arrive on DVD separate.

indiephantom 05-15-07 02:08 AM

The film is GRINDHOUSE. The whole opening sequence music is cut with that title leading into PLANET TERROR.

I can't imagine not seeing it the way it was intended to be seen. I loved the film, but even the idea of switching discs for this seems uncool. These releases will sell horribly as individual titles, since nobody knows what the fuck they are. I'm hoping that by September, the Weinsteins will come to their senses and release the film properly.

indiephantom 05-15-07 02:09 AM


Originally Posted by bboisvert
At 3hr 11min, the feature should fit on a single disc just fine.

Exactly. And given the look is supposed to be crappy, no need to worry about compression this time.

tylergfoster 05-15-07 04:11 AM


Originally Posted by indiephantom
The film is GRINDHOUSE. The whole opening sequence music is cut with that title leading into PLANET TERROR.

I can't imagine not seeing it the way it was intended to be seen. I loved the film, but even the idea of switching discs for this seems uncool. These releases will sell horribly as individual titles, since nobody knows what the fuck they are. I'm hoping that by September, the Weinsteins will come to their senses and release the film properly.

Argh! How many times can I say this? If you want to see the film the way it was meant to be seen then you will accept that the film is split up on DVD because this is the wish of the FILMMAKERS not the Weinstein company. Again, I doubt they argued with Quentin and Robert -- it's twice the money for them -- but the point is that it's two movies IN THE THEATER but at home they're just individual films. Otherwise, there would be no joy in seeing a grindhouse film in the theater, because you could see it exactly the same way at home on videotape.

And, just to clarify -- I don't care if you don't want to watch them separate, that's an opinion and that's up to you -- I don't have any beef with people who would like to see it the way it was in theaters. But I do care that people are clearly not aware of what the filmmakers felt about their films and they are also mistakenly chalking it up to someone else. If a studio does something shitty, by all means, blame them. But this was Quentin and Robert's decision, not the Weinsteins.

Dead 05-15-07 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by nateman241
More Grindhouse threads!!!!

nateman241, threadcrapping is against forum rules. If we see more of these, you may face administrative action.

slop101 05-15-07 10:00 AM

An ideal release would be a 3-disc set:
disc 1: U.S. theatrical cut of the whole thing w/ commentary from RR & QT
disc 2: Planet Terror: extended unrated w/ extras pertaining to PT
disc 3: Death Proof: extended unrated w/ extras pertaining to DP
done and done!


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