You couldn't be more wrong if your name was Wrongie McWrongenstein. The decision to split them up was the Weinsteins, pure & simple - QT & RR just went along with it.

Now, I'd buy that for a dollar. Or 40 dollars.

Playing at a drive-in near you
 

I was bummed out that I missed it in the movie theater,
but I see that it is playing now at the local drive in.
Great idea, I think this will be a cool experience.

The Weinsteins may have decided to split it up in the foreign theaters because of low box office, but the DVD is a different story. The idea is that, say, if you saw a double feature of Enter the Dragon and Faster, Pussycat, Kill! Kill!, obviously there is not going to be a DVD double feature of that or a VHS double feature of that. The point is the THEATRICAL experience of seeing the two movies together. On DVD they will be treated like separate original feature films.

Incorrect. GRINDHOUSE was CONCEIVED AND CREATED to be one giant experience. Tarantino and Rodriguez discussed the inspiration, evolution and creation of GH on the Charlie Rose show and it was absolutely 100% clear that this is the way the project was always intended to be and how it came into fruition, how it was pitched and conceived, and written and produced. It's very clear what this project was always all about - a complete double-feature with scratch-marks, missing reels, and fake trailers. Go look for that interview and you'll understand it better. Or check out the interviews on the promo DVD that Hot Topic was giving out several weeks back. Or check out any written interview with QT or RR. Separately releasing the two 'restored' films later was a business decision made after the fact (although it was always intended many international markets would see it that way because of cultural differences). Releasing the two films separately on DVD in the US is just more profit possibilities and that's all good for QT, RR, and Weinstein Company. It wasn't until GRINDHOUSE bombed at the boxoffice that the possibility of the full GH feature possibly not getting a DVD release of its own started.

Just that you can't fathom enjoying the GH experience in your home as you did in the theater doesn't mean other home theater enthusiasts can't. I know I surely could get the same thrill out of it watching it on a big-screen tv pretending I'm in a fleapit theater (my apartment somewhat fits that mold). Release the two restored films separately as well for those who want to watch them that way. But that is simply not GRINDHOUSE to me.

Count me in!!

Again, same thing. Whenever QT and RR discuss the whole concept of it being a double feature, they are referring to the theatrical experience. I think my analogy about other double features sets it up pretty clearly -- double features in theaters are not presented as double-features on home video. They are presented as the individual movies (although DVD double features are taking off now). I really don't think Quentin and Robert would consider the versions with the reels cut back in their "Director's Cuts" (ala the Death Proof playing at Cannes) if the two-parter was an inviolate piece of the production.

Because you can really slap any two movies together at home and call it a double feature. It's not the same thing. The whole point with the scratched reels and stuff and even the name "grindhouse" refers to the theatrical experience of seeing an old film shoved into the projector for the zillionth time in some backwater movie house in the bad side of town.

And see this thread: http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=497358

The first post is a day after the movie opened, talking about how "a week ago" Rodriguez said on the Opie and Anthony show that the movies are to be presented separated on DVD.

And lastly, again -- I am not bashing the idea of seeing Grindhouse in one piece on DVD. I am just trying to relay the fact that the filmmakers feel otherwise. I'm sure with a great home theater system you could recreate it and it would make for a great party for film fans. But this is just what I have heard about it and I am trying to relay that.

You've relayed it five times already. We get the idea. And I firmly disagree with you. No need to keep pounding it. It's not going to work.

Honestly, that right there would be good enough for me. Can't say I'd have any interest in buying a seperate dvd release for each film.

Well, either way, I think that Rodriguez on the Opie and Anthony Show does disprove you on one count. I don't mean to be argumentative, but you seem to be edging towards bashing my opinion, so...let's not fight over this. I do think though that if one can't get straight who to blame with things like this, whether it be the studio or the director or the producer or whatnot, it means that nobody is going to listen to any complaints, valid or not.

No it doesn't.

I never said that there weren't plans to release them separately on DVD, even planned before the theatrical release took place, so Rodriguez mentioning that one day after it opened means nothing. Surely, after creating and producing (and probably even during production) of GH, all the parties involved discussed the possibilities of other various release versions including separate releases of the two films. Why not? More money for all.

That still doesn't change the fact that the whole concept and idea of this double-film was to be GRINDHOUSE, pure and simple - and that would mean a release of GRINDHOUSE on DVD. Absolutely no studio in their right mind would skip a DVD release of a film they released theatrically and that was successful - after all the name-awareness, marketing, and exposure. If GH had made $100 million, we wouldn't even be having this conversation - we would be seeing the separate releases and damn well for sure be seeing the full GH dvd as well. It was only after the film bombed theatrically did the rumors start that the full GH version may not be released on DVD. That's all.

Well, it was not one day before the opening, it was a week or so before the opening, and what he said was that the full film would NOT get a release on DVD. He was not suggesting the possibility of separate releases, but claiming that there would not be a singluar release, as to why the poster on the thread in question is asking why not.

When did Robert Rodriguez become the president of Weinstein Company's DVD department? He sure knows a lot about the marketing and release plans surely before anything was ever set in stone. Even before the theatrical release opens he's got all the answers as to what's going to come out. Tarantino , too. I'm still waiting for those promised extended KILL BILL, and separate SIN CITY releases.

Well, my guess is it is Tarantino's fault that we don't have KB since he keeps claiming he's gonna cut it together and that when it happens there will be a theatrical release and all that. Plus, Quentin has a pretty checkered history of promising projects that haven't happened yet, so I expect the Weinsteins are waiting on him. And I don't think anyone ever suggested completely separate Sin City releases -- on the Uncut DVD the stories are presented separately on Disc 2, so I am pretty sure that is what was meant by that.

Either way, Quentin and Robert probably have a reasonable amount of control over their DVDs and I would believe Rodriguez would be in the know, but since the Opie and Anthony clip on the website edits this part of the interview out, I'll just let it go.

Yeah, Sin City was never discussed as separate releases, it was always talked about as the three stories separated out so you could watch them by themselves, which is what we got.

Why would someone want separate, 40 minute releases?

The lamest part was that only like a minute or two of footage got stuck back into each one, because the total runtime of like 147m counted the credits three times. Thumbs down to that.

Well, some interesting news about "Boulevard de la morte... un film grindhouse" premiering at Cannes with 30 additional minutes. According to today's Salon.com:

This was old news. QT's D.P. was planned on being screened at Cannes with an extended cut. Never heard that R.R. P.T. nor "Grindhouse" being shown...

It was! Geez, how do you get a gig writing for an online newspaper/magazine/whatever and still be completely unfamiliar with Google? This was mentioned in plenty of articles prior to Grindhouse's theatrical release.

There was some worry that the UK was gonna botch Grindhouse so badly that Planet Terror would go direct to DVD, but I guess it has a poster over there now so that seems to say it won't.

It's just me, but I have a feeling that Death Proof will be delayed just a little as the Weinsteins seem to view it as one of their Oscar vehicles (no pun intended) this year.

Could they do that? Wouldn't that be against the Academy guidelines?

That's what I read on IMDb. Some guy knows an executive at TWC who said that Death Proof as a seperate entity is valid and they plan to push it as one of their awards hopefuls in the fall.

I don't see how it would be. I mean since Death Proof was released as a part of Grindhouse this year, a re-chop and re-release coming out in the same year shouldn't effect it's Oscar eligibility.

The one thing that has failed to be mentioned thus far is that Tarantino filmed an entire feature. The missing reel is an honest to goodness missing reel, and everything was shot already. It was always Tarantino's intention of releasing the "complete" version separately on DVD or in the theater.

Rodriquez, however, never shot nor intended to shot his missing reel. It even feels kinda obvious in Plant Terror that the missing reel was a gag, whereas in Death Proof it was a classic FU to the audience and a clear missing reel.

Plus some of the footage from the missing reel made it's way onto the Grindhouse trailer.

We'll see...I had thought Rodriguez shot his reel too.

well has anyone read Grindhouse: The Sleaze-filled Saga of an Exploitation Double Feature which has both films in script form, does it mirror the theatrical cut or are the 'cut' scenes included?

It only has the Planet Terror script...and Yes, it includes the missing reel...plus much more. There totally could be a longer cut of Planet Terror.

D

I think the missing reel in Planet Terror is hilarious.

I personally like slop's plan.

One disc, both movies (in HD, so the scratches are even sharper). Second disc, Planet Terror, the full movie. Third disc, Death Proof, the full movie.

Enjoy!

I'm not sure what I would do if it had 3 separate releases (1. Grindhouse complete theater version, 2. Planet Terror -restored, and 3. Death Proof -restored). I would most likely buy the double feature and rent the other two to see if the "restored" version is worth a buy.

Just a bit of a head's up. To my knowledge there is no missing reel for Planet Terror; Rodriguez used the gimmick to skip a bunch of backstory.

Death Proof on the other hand definitely has a 'filmed' deleted reel.

Variety has been covering the Cannes Film Festival, and has been churning out several reviews of this year's entries--they just put up their (neutral) review of the expanded Death Proof:
http://www.variety.com/index.asp?lay...d=VE1117933735

I simply gotta see this cut!!!

i think it's ridiculous that everyone has to wait until september. this movie should be out by the middle of july. since it's taking so long to release it, they better have something good up their sleeves because i'm craving another sit down with this classic.

The GRINDHOUSE experience should be preserved AND they should release them separately (that way everyone is happy).

Well it's not being kept together. At least not for the initial release. Eventually I think everyone will be happy, but not immediately because they will initially be seperate releases.

Huh. I wonder what the Weinsteins would do with Creepshow? :sad:

So essentially Grindhouse isn't being released in September, since they are splitting up the films and releasing them separately. Lame lame lame. I'll wait until the movie (in its entirety) is released.

It shouldn't take too long for someone to do a fan reconstruction.

If they're splitting them up, why even release them at the same time? Put one out in July and the other in September.