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Old 01-14-07 | 09:08 PM
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THE MAN WHO WASN'T THERE color screencaps?

I just finished watching THE MAN WHO WASN'T THERE on DVD, and I know they released a color version outside of America.

I know DVD Beaver has shown color screencaps, but I was curious...is there any other site that has color screencaps of this film?

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Old 01-14-07 | 09:19 PM
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I don't know about that, but I do know you should use a question mark in your thread title when you're asking a question.

Why would you want to see "The Man Who Wasn't There" in color?
Old 01-14-07 | 09:45 PM
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I just wanted to see what it would like in color, since the Coen Bros. filmed it in color first before B&W. Although I definitely believe the B&W fit the film, I was just curious to see what it looked like before they changed the color.
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I love this film and so I bought the French 3-disc set which includes the color version. I also was curious. I had heard a rumor that the Coens had put in all kinds of garish colors because it was going to be shown in black and white anyway so they wouldn't show up. In actuality, in color it is one of the most subdued films you would ever see. It's almost more like a slight tint like the sepia tone in The Wizard of Oz and it is quite interesting in and of itself.

The problem with the French disc is that it has nonremovable French subtitles, at least on my Philips and Malata DVD players. I can remove the subtitles on my computer. Another oddity is that is has a DTS track with the "color" version but not with the B&W.
Old 01-14-07 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by OscarFan10
I know DVD Beaver has shown color screencaps
For those interested, here's the page in question:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/FILM/dvdcompare/manwho.htm
Old 01-14-07 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Groucho
For those interested, here's the page in question:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/FILM/dvdcompare/manwho.htm
Yeah, that barber pole is about as colorful as it got.
Old 01-15-07 | 01:45 AM
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So your choices are black and white or basically brown and white? Aside from a few reds, I didn't see that much of a difference.
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Originally Posted by calhoun07
So your choices are black and white or basically brown and white? Aside from a few reds, I didn't see that much of a difference.
It is a different look just like The Wizard of Oz looks different in Kansas black and white than it does in Kansas sepia. Necessary? No. For curiosity's sake and/or for completism? Why not?
Old 01-15-07 | 10:46 AM
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I love this film and so I bought the French 3-disc set which includes the color version. I also was curious. I had heard a rumor that the Coens had put in all kinds of garish colors because it was going to be shown in black and white anyway so they wouldn't show up. In actuality, in color it is one of the most subdued films you would ever see. It's almost more like a slight tint like the sepia tone in The Wizard of Oz and it is quite interesting in and of itself.
Those screenshots look like the b&w version of the movie was colorized after-the-fact, not like the original color film stock. When shooting an intended b&w movie on color film stock, garish colors are often necessary in order to attain the proper shades of gray once desaturated. Thus a character might need to wear a flamboyant green suit that will look "normal" in b&w.

The film stock would not look sepia. Most of those screen shots, espeically the barber pole, look like they were digitally colored from the b&w version.
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There's a special feature on the Coeh's "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" dvd that goes into great detail about the "digital grading" process they used on that film to get the dusty, dry sepia tones used throughout. These color images look incredibly similar.

I don't know for sure, but I'm almost positive they shot TMWWT in black and white. I don't think you could get such stark, crystal clear imagery by simply desaturating color film.
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The film was definitely shot in color. But I think they must have used digital grading to get those tones on the color print. That would be too hard to shoot "in camera" and have a workable b&w image as well.
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I think Groucho and redskull correctly pointed out about the use of digital grading. But TMWWT is definitely shot in color. There is one or two incident when they show the first reel in color in a theatre.
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Originally Posted by redskull
I don't know for sure, but I'm almost positive they shot TMWWT in black and white. I don't think you could get such stark, crystal clear imagery by simply desaturating color film.
All modern black & white films are shot on color film stock. The major film labs have put a great deal of development into improving the contrast range and fine grain of color stocks, but basically no development at all into black & white stocks for decades (because there's very little call for it). You can get a much better b&w image by shooting on color stock and desaturating it afterwards.
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Originally Posted by Josh Z
All modern black & white films are shot on color film stock. The major film labs have put a great deal of development into improving the contrast range and fine grain of color stocks, but basically no development at all into black & white stocks for decades (because there's very little call for it). You can get a much better b&w image by shooting on color stock and desaturating it afterwards.
Correct, but you can also make the argument that a film meant to be in b&w looks too "sterile" on modern color stock, and that the qualities of older b&w stock are part of the look, not just the lack of color.

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