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Rammsteinfan 11-10-06 05:00 PM

TCM: The Beginning Unrated - 1/16/07
 
Just saw it posted...

http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releas...massacre9.html

oooh Creepy Flesh Like slipcase!

MartinBlank 11-10-06 10:43 PM

Lame cover.

dsa_shea 11-10-06 11:41 PM

I dont like the unrated on the front. They should have kept in along the same lines as the remake's cover. I hope this is a 2-disc set as well.

critterdvd 11-11-06 02:49 AM

I never caught this one in the theater, but like the original remake will probably be a blind-purchase on release week...

TomOpus 11-11-06 08:29 AM

Not sure about that cover. But if the flesh-slipcover is cool, I might pick it up. I never saw it theatrically and it seemed to have received a wide gamut of reviews.

scottp120 11-11-06 08:32 AM

The movie was terrible. It was 98% of the movie with the sheriff f'n with people and 2% of the time Leatherace and family. Seriously, Leatherface has a cameo in this movie. It should be titled Sheriff Fucking With Kids.

Patrick Mirza 11-13-06 02:37 PM

We've got the final details for the the discs, as well as box art for the R-rated (below).


http://www.davisdvd.com/images/cover...beginning2.jpg

Rammsteinfan 11-13-06 02:43 PM

Just saw that... thats the cover i would have liked for the unrated. Guess a custom cover may be in the works for the unrated one.

Julie Walker 11-13-06 04:21 PM

Well if we're lucky,the keepcase for the unrated won't have the image used on the slipcase. Though most studios use the exact same artwork on keepcases and slip covers. So I guess I won't get my hopes up on that.

I do hope,however,that New Line includes both versions of the film on the unrated release like they did with Wedding Crashers, Blade Trinity and countless other films. But even that may not happen if their unrated Dumb & Dumber is any indication. That's their first unrated release I'm aware of that didn't offer the theatrical/rated version as an option.

TomOpus 11-13-06 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by Rammsteinfan
Just saw that... thats the cover i would have liked for the unrated.

Same here. Ohwell....

philip74 11-14-06 06:14 AM

i guess most people will prefer the rated cover, which is a bit unfair, because who will buy a rated version, if there also is an unrated one?
the unrated cover is a bit digusting (which was probably their goal for the unrated version and the film theme) and reminds me a of mason verger alias gary oldman in "hannibal" :D

Giles 11-14-06 09:56 AM

it doesn't surprise in the slightest that there is an unrated cut, the theatrical R-rated version was probably one of the few R-rated films that bordered right on the NC-17 rating cusp.

CertifiedTHX 11-15-06 08:17 PM

Didn't see this theatrically, but looking forward to the DVD. As for covers, I tend to prefer those of the unrated versions, and the same goes for this one.

--THX

Bluelitespecial 11-18-06 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by Giles
it doesn't surprise in the slightest that there is an unrated cut, the theatrical R-rated version was probably one of the few R-rated films that bordered right on the NC-17 rating cusp.

There were so many cringe worthy moments during this one that it could have been NC-17, just like the Hills have Eyes had the same feeling earlier this year.

Julie Walker 01-01-07 01:21 AM

Here is a review of the dvd with spoilers and a nice unrated scene photo,which is a major spoiler. So don't click the link if you don't want things ruined for you.

http://dreadcentral.com/index.php?na...ontent&id=1264

nateman 01-01-07 02:18 AM

i also missed this one in theaters. i usually wait for horror movies to come to dvd cause the unrated versions.
i added this one to my personal dvd release scedule a 2 weeks ago.
it got bad reviews but critics tend to be wrong sometimes.

Sabrett 01-01-07 03:17 AM

I can't wait to see what this flesh-like cover is going to look/feel like..

EdTheRipper 01-01-07 12:10 PM

Looking forward to seeing this.

Wick 01-01-07 03:53 PM

I don't know if I'll spend any more money on this awful piece of shit, even if it means that my TCSM collection will be incomplete. It's easily one of the worst movies I have ever seen. When I saw it in theatres, I wanted to leave half-way through. However, I stuck it out, in the hopes that it would get better.

JarJarBinks 01-01-07 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by Wick
I don't know if I'll spend any more money on this awful piece of shit, even if it means that my TCSM collection will be incomplete. It's easily one of the worst movies I have ever seen. When I saw it in theatres, I wanted to leave half-way through. However, I stuck it out, in the hopes that it would get better.

Odd. I hated the remake myself. But this film was so good, it actually makes the remake better.

Dayewalker 01-04-07 10:17 PM

I've been looking forward to this release! I didn't get to see it in the theater, but I'm hoping that the Unrated version is even gorier than what I heard about the theatrical version.

cajun_junky 01-05-07 08:47 AM

I missed this in the theater and it seems the reviews here are mixed about this one. Being a TCM fan I will be picking up the unrated and keeping my fingers crossed on the quality.

CertifiedTHX 01-14-07 07:51 PM

Thankfully, this is coming out only in the single disc variety-- both rated and unrated-- so there's no exorbitant pricing for a 2-disc. Best Buy has it for $16.99, Circuit City for $14.99. No promotions worth noting, unless one cares about a movie ticket to Number 23. Will be getting it at Best Buy and price matching.

--THX

Rammsteinfan 01-15-07 10:39 AM

Getting it at BB for the free ticket and TCM3 for $20 total. Sounds like the best deal to me.

CertifiedTHX 01-15-07 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by Rammsteinfan
Getting it at BB for the free ticket and TCM3 for $20 total. Sounds like the best deal to me.

Hm, good call. Believe I will also look for Leatherface. Looks like a good release, too-- wasn't sure what kind of treatment the sequels were given. :thumbsup: (And with Kate Hodge starring, I've been wanting to see it. Only place I've seen her is The Hidden II, but I dig her.) TCM: The Next Generation doesn't boast much, but it's a poor sequel, so I wouldn't expect much. Least it's anamorphic.

--THX

xage 01-15-07 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by Sabrett
I can't wait to see what this flesh-like cover is going to look/feel like..


Same goes on my end... Im intruiged about the flesh cover

Sabrett 01-16-07 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by xage
Same goes on my end... Im intruiged about the flesh cover


I'm leaving in about 45 minutes to go get it, so we'll find out then! :)

Sabrett 01-16-07 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by Sabrett
I'm leaving in about 45 minutes to go get it, so we'll find out then! :)


Went to get it, and absolutely nothing special about it. I didn't buy it.

mzupeman2 01-16-07 10:48 AM

Well I'm buying the Unrated for the content, not for the fleshy-ish cover. Can't wait to see this movie again. I know most people hate these TCM remakes but I actually dig them.

Willh51 01-16-07 01:24 PM

I actually quite enjoyed the brutality of this movie and was very entertained, I actually went to a showing with nobody else besides my friend and I in the theatre. I think I am going to pass on the dvd because I'm not sure how much replay it'd get.

Sabrett 01-16-07 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by mzupeman2
Well I'm buying the Unrated for the content, not for the fleshy-ish cover. Can't wait to see this movie again. I know most people hate these TCM remakes but I actually dig them.


I wasn't buying it for the cover either. I usually hold off on a DVD until it drops to $10 unless it has something special that I don't want to disappear over time (i.e. flesh slipcover). There was nothing special that I have to worry about, so I passed until it goes on sale.

DealMan 01-16-07 01:33 PM

Saw this the other day and was surprised that it didn't suck.

I did watch the unrated version, and I can honestly say it was one of the goriest mainstream horror movies I've ever seen.

marcellusk 01-16-07 02:10 PM

Just picked it up from best buy...i was expecting the cover to feel something like the book of the dead dvds or something.....

Sabrett 01-16-07 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by marcellusk
Just picked it up from best buy...i was expecting the cover to feel something like the book of the dead dvds or something.....


Yeah, that's how I was expecting it to feel also. Well, I passed on it today and opted to pick up Employee of the Month w/ the bonus disc instead, but now I'm sitting here thinking about TCM too much, so I'll probably just go get it...

CertifiedTHX 01-16-07 06:01 PM

Snowed in today, so wasn't able to get out. But reading here, I'm getting the impression that the "fleshy" slipcover that was promoted when this was announced isn't what was hyped. What is it, just standard cardboard? Nothing unique about it at all?

--THX

TomOpus 01-16-07 06:02 PM

So, what DID it feel like? :p

Sabrett 01-16-07 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by TomOpus
So, what DID it feel like? :p


It's...smoother. Like....as if you're rubbing half-dried clay. :) I'm sorry...it's really hard to explain. At first it didn't feel fleshy at all, but the more I was playing with it, the more I realized they really were trying to make it feel like skin.

TomOpus 01-16-07 06:17 PM

Hmmmmm. Thanks, Sabrett. I never saw the movie (but read a lot of opinions) and have been debating a blind buy.

Sabrett 01-16-07 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by TomOpus
Hmmmmm. Thanks, Sabrett. I never saw the movie (but read a lot of opinions) and have been debating a blind buy.


It wasn't bad, but it wasn't amazing, either. I saw it in the theater, and there was a lot of gore. The story itself was pretty good...but I know I bought it mostly because I'm a completist and it went with my TCM collection.

Seantn 01-16-07 07:10 PM


I did watch the unrated version, and I can honestly say it was one of the goriest mainstream horror movies I've ever seen.
I feel that the Hills Have Eyes remake went farther, or at least portayed it's violence with more impact. With TCM: The Beginning it just left me with an uninterested feeling. Sure they're showing a lot of violence, but so what? Maybe i'm becoming desensetized to it all. Nothing in the film, violence wise, really shocked me or made me think "wow, that's the most violent thing ever!" It didn't help that I really didn't care for the movie. If you're hesitating buying this, just know this: It's basically an exact retelling of the 2003 remake, right down to where the lead character ends up at the films conclusion.
Spoiler:
On the special features, Michael Bay and the creators tell us that this an origin story, and they wanted us to learn how "old monty" loses his legs, and how Sherrif Hoyt loses his teeth...Um...Who cares about that?

They're not showing anything new. They're just explaining stuff that they showed in the last film, and frankly, it's not stuff that needs any further explaining. It seems like everything has to be over-explained these days (and sadly, the new Halloween remake looks like it's going down that path as well). I'd say my biggest gripe is that the movie is all about explaining the origins of this "remake" family in TCM universe. The only problem: I don't care about this family. They're not interesting to me and I couldn't care less why they are the way they are. Also, I didn't buy the explanation. One day they're fine, then for dinner one night they turn into cannibals and become hardcore murderers who slaughter tons of innocent people? Give me a break.


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