Scene Selections should be outlawed
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You make the call - special ed child that got to mommy's computer while off his meds or just a troll?
I'm voting troll. The whole "director did not intend" crap seems to be a parody of the whole wide screen / full screen debate and the should we be allowed to buy pre-censored DVD's debate.
Wait, can I change my vote to retarded troll off his meds?
I'm voting troll. The whole "director did not intend" crap seems to be a parody of the whole wide screen / full screen debate and the should we be allowed to buy pre-censored DVD's debate.
Wait, can I change my vote to retarded troll off his meds?
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Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
Sometimes you just want to check out your favorite scenes, just like listening to your favorite song on an album.
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I don't care about music; films are my passion. If you're going to make that comparison, I'd say the movie is more like one singular song rather than the whole album. Songs have the progressions of emotions the artist wants you to feel. More often than not, the songs on the album are in no particular order. There are a few exceptions (a very few). But don't dodge the subject.
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Anyone here like to take the tomato or anything else off of your burger or sandwich? Well tough luck guys!
If you're going to eat a burger or sandwich, you have to eat the thing whole, no exceptions. The sandwich artist did not intend for you to remove anything.
I just figured it out! JamesRyan is Jack Ryan's not so successful brother, in a lesser known segment of the CIA.
If you're going to eat a burger or sandwich, you have to eat the thing whole, no exceptions. The sandwich artist did not intend for you to remove anything.
I just figured it out! JamesRyan is Jack Ryan's not so successful brother, in a lesser known segment of the CIA.
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I don't care about music; films are my passion. If you're going to make that comparison, I'd say the movie is more like one singular song rather than the whole album. Songs have the progressions of emotions the artist wants you to feel. More often than not, the songs on the album are in no particular order. There are a few exceptions (a very few). But don't dodge the subject.
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These artists should not allow their films to be shown on network television either since the commercials that interupt the flow of the film are probably not in keeping with their vision. Should the artists allow us to eat during their films since the food experience may either enhance or detract from the experience not to mention the use of drugs? Since most directors make films to be commercially viable, aren't they already compromised? After they've already bent over to accomodate their financiers, distributors and exhibitors, what does scene selection really matter? They'll still feel like whores.
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Originally Posted by JamesRyan
... the songs on the album are in no particular order. There are a few exceptions (a very few). But don't dodge the subject.
You also never replied to my comment about how filmmakers would much rather people see their films in the theater than on a TV - distractions, screen-size, proper sound, aspect-ratio etc. are all bigger concerns to these artists than dvd chapters.
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Originally Posted by JamesRyan
What's the point in buying a movie if you're just going to skip over scenes? If you're going to put in a movie, you have to watch the thing the whole way through, no exceptions. The director did not intend for you skip over scenes. If he did, he would have cut them out of the movie himself. This is raping the director's artwork and his vision is compromised when you do that. Who else would be in favor of disabling the option to skip through movies?
*you weren't really serious, were you ?*
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Originally Posted by fender69
I totally agree with you but what about pausing? I'm totally against that as well. If I have to pee during a film I just pee in my pants or in a cup. I really do perfer just going in my pants since I don't have to worry about drinking my own urine by mistake.
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Originally Posted by JamesRyan
I do not believe protecting the intentions of the artist is much of a "joke."
You shouldn't be able to use it because it gives you the option to look at the director's art in a way he did not intend. People should not be allowed to view a movie any way they want.
You shouldn't be able to use it because it gives you the option to look at the director's art in a way he did not intend. People should not be allowed to view a movie any way they want.
BTW, courts have alread ruled against this. There are players available that will take out sections of the movie, making them "clean" for family viewing. The DVD remains unchanged, but the way it plays is not the ... ahem... "vision"
of the artist. The industry tried to have this stopped, but the courts ruled in favor of the folks putting out this player. So, its perfectly fine, acceptable, legal, etc... for people to play a DVD however they damn well please. Bet that just busts your buttons, doesn't it ?
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JamesRyan -
1) Why speak out now since they've been on DVDs/laserdiscs since forever?
2) What other ways have you been protecting the rights of artists everywhere?
3) Please explain how we can take your crusade serious... if you're serious. Seriously.
1) Why speak out now since they've been on DVDs/laserdiscs since forever?
2) What other ways have you been protecting the rights of artists everywhere?
3) Please explain how we can take your crusade serious... if you're serious. Seriously.
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Originally Posted by JamesRyan
I don't care about music; films are my passion. If you're going to make that comparison, I'd say the movie is more like one singular song rather than the whole album. Songs have the progressions of emotions the artist wants you to feel. More often than not, the songs on the album are in no particular order. There are a few exceptions (a very few). But don't dodge the subject.
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LOL at the Clockwork Orange pic.
I will say that I have NEVER used the scene selection on the discs.
However, you better not ever take out chapter stops, I use those pretty often.
As others have said, I can get up to answer the door and forget to pause, I could fall asleep, whatever... I want the opportunity to skip along in the movie until I found where I left off.
I will say that I have NEVER used the scene selection on the discs.
However, you better not ever take out chapter stops, I use those pretty often.
As others have said, I can get up to answer the door and forget to pause, I could fall asleep, whatever... I want the opportunity to skip along in the movie until I found where I left off.
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Too many forum members feel they need to dignify these TROLL posts with responses... just let it die.
If he's a troll, then you're playing into his hands. If he's serious, you'll never change his mind anyway.
Internet 101, people.
If he's a troll, then you're playing into his hands. If he's serious, you'll never change his mind anyway.
Internet 101, people.
#43
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My 2 cents....
I always watch films all the way through, but the scene selections are useful for demoing systems, and for finding your place if for some reason you have to restart the disc.
As far as CD's, I personally never understood the cherry-picking of songs. Maybe's it's the type of artists I listen to, but if I like the band, I'll pretty much like every tune on the record. I don't listen to pop stuff, so maybe that's why. Most albums I hear are designed to be albums, not 3 singles surrounded by nine filler songs.
I always watch films all the way through, but the scene selections are useful for demoing systems, and for finding your place if for some reason you have to restart the disc.
As far as CD's, I personally never understood the cherry-picking of songs. Maybe's it's the type of artists I listen to, but if I like the band, I'll pretty much like every tune on the record. I don't listen to pop stuff, so maybe that's why. Most albums I hear are designed to be albums, not 3 singles surrounded by nine filler songs.
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Originally Posted by JamesRyan
I do not believe protecting the intentions of the artist is much of a "joke."
You shouldn't be able to use it because it gives you the option to look at the director's art in a way he did not intend. People should not be allowed to view a movie any way they want.
You shouldn't be able to use it because it gives you the option to look at the director's art in a way he did not intend. People should not be allowed to view a movie any way they want.
By the way, do you really think that the directors of the great classic films intended that you should watch their artistic endeavors while slouching on your couch?
You need to toss your DVD player RIGHT NOW!
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Too many forum members feel they need to dignify these TROLL posts with responses... just let it die.
If he's a troll, then you're playing into his hands. If he's serious, you'll never change his mind anyway.
Internet 101, people.
If he's a troll, then you're playing into his hands. If he's serious, you'll never change his mind anyway.
Internet 101, people.
*eats popcorn*
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Poor JamesRyan... maybe they shouldn't have saved him.*
* Obscure Spielberg film reference.
* Obscure Spielberg film reference.
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Oh come on now, who hasn't used the scene selection to get certain parts in movies such as 'Wild Things' or 'Fast Times at Ridgemont High'
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I think reading the last page of a mystery novel first should be outlawed! Mysteries should be published with the last chapter removed. To get it, you should have to write a book report to prove you've read the novel and send it to the publisher. Anything else is destroying the author's creative vision!



